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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:10 PM
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Ann Kornblut on Gregory just said Palin did not sell that plane on EBay
She sold it to a contributor to both herself and the REthugs for a LOSS

Sarah I can't take any more today. This is September not Christmas. :rofl:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:11 PM
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1. It's great to hear that at least some of the truth is getting out there!
:bounce:
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:12 PM
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2. To a contributor? Any details? nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:17 PM
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5. Here it is
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/
<snip>
Plane Not Sold on eBay

By Anne E. Kornblut

One of the compelling anecdotes about Sarah Palin is that she auctioned off the Alaska governor's jet on eBay after taking office -- a swift move made by a reformer hoping to clean up the excesses of her predecessor.

But in fact, the jet did not sell on eBay. It was sold to a businessman from Valdez named Larry Reynolds, who paid $2.1 million for the jet, shy of the original $2.7 million purchase price, according to contemporaneous news reports, including a story in the New York Times.

Dan Spencer, the director of administrative services for Alaska's Public Safety Department, said that the Republican speaker of the Alaska House, John L. Harris, brokered the deal.


What happened? It appears that, as promised during her bid for governor in 2006, Palin did try to sell the plane on eBay but that doing so was not as easy as it might have sounded. After putting it up to auction, there was one serious bid, in December 2006, and it fell through. Still, the Westwind II was sold about eight months later, achieving Palin's goal of ridding the state of a luxury item.

But that hasn't stopped Palin, or McCain, from implying -- and, on Friday, claiming outright -- that Palin did sell the jet on the Internet.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:15 PM
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14. How much was the one serious bid? How much was the plane worth? nt
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:20 PM
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15. Another news story on this...

http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/22461/palin-plane-not-sold-on-e-bay-not-for-a-profit-sold-to-gop-contributor/
... Dan Spencer, the director of administrative services for Alaska’s Public Safety Department, said that the Republican speaker of the Alaska House, John L. Harris, brokered the deal.

It also appears that Larry Reynolds was a repeat donor to the GOP. ...


Is there some proof Reynolds was a repeat donor?

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:13 PM
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3. Someone Else On Same Show Says She Can't Keep Making These Mistakes.....
saying you sold the plane on eBay for a profit is not a mistake - it's a lie.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:15 PM
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4. She didn't say she SOLD it on ebay
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:18 PM
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6. McLiar said that today
and added the profit part. I heard him live.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:21 PM
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7. Kornblut referenced McCain saying "she sold it on ebay " at the rally today
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 05:22 PM by ErinBerin84
and said "sure, she did eventually sell it, but not the way McCain has been repeating the story...it adds to the question of 'how well does he know this person'."
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:24 PM
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8. Lieberman wasn't around to whisper the correction into his ear.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:24 PM
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9. Barbie Moose is the gift that keeps on giving
:rofl:
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:11 PM
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13. So? She prevaricated, i.e. she lied, at least by one definition ...
A definition of prevaricate ...

"be deliberately ambiguous or unclear in order to mislead or withhold information"

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prevaricate
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:21 PM
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16. NO nice words here
They are liars
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:41 PM
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17. Ok, now that's some straight talk. nt
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:31 PM
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10. Even putting the plane on EBay says something about her
That's not the way you sell high-priced items. That's how you sell handicrafts, used furniture, clothes that didn't fit you and you can't return. What it shows about Palin is that she has NO IDEA how to run a big operation, and her mind-set on business is mom-and-pop corner store.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:33 PM
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11. Excellent point n/t
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:43 PM
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18. Maybe putting it on eBay was an attempt to make the sale look ok,
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 06:44 PM by mcg
to make it look like they got a fair price for it.

An eBay screen print:
http://starbulletin.com/2007/02/04/news/ebay_jet.pdf

They can say, "Hey, we tried to sell it on eBay and only got
$1,641,100 as the highest bid, look at how much more we got for it."

It would be interesting to know if 2.1 million was a fair price for it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 05:43 PM
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12. According to the FAA N number lookup for this plane: N328SA
After doing a little investigation I've come up with:

It was bought by a Larry Reynolds..

Google Phonebook results for "Larry Reynolds" Alaska

Larry Reynolds (907) 339-9278 Anchorage, AK 99501 Map
Larry Reynolds (907) 835-9254 6160 Deep Lk, Valdez, AK 99686 Map
Larry Reynolds (907) 835-9574 N Harbor Dr, Valdez, AK 99686 Map



Reynolds didn't give to Palin's campaign but his wife (occupation listed as "housewife") gave $1000.00 to John L. Harris in the 2006 General election.

Harris is the Alaska State Legislature Speaker of the House and he in turn hooked up Reynolds with Governor Palin to do the sweetheart jet deal (at a loss to the State of Alaska)

http://community.adn.com/node/109650 (News story on how Reynolds used Harris to get the jet)

I'm smellin' a quid, a pro and a quo here... Anyone else?


The campaign contribution:
https://webapp.state.ak.us/apoc/contributions.jsp?name=JANCE+REYNOLDS&pagesize=20


The FAA aircraft registration:
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=328SA&cmndfind.x=12&cmndfind.y=13

http://aprn.org/2007/08/24/larry-reynolds-valdezs-great-white-hunter-and-economic-entrepreneur/

FAA Registry
N-Number Inquiry Results
N328SA is Assigned

Aircraft Description

Serial Number 425 Type Registration Individual
Manufacturer Name ISRAEL AIRCRAFT INDUSTRIES Certificate Issue Date 09/13/2007
Model 1124A Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Multi-Engine Type Engine Turbo-Fan
Pending Number Change None Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 50706631
MFR Year 1984 Fractional Owner NO



Registered Owner

Name REYNOLDS LARRY
Street PO BOX 750
City VALDEZ State ALASKA Zip Code 99686-0750
County VALDEZ-CORDOVA
Country UNITED STATES



Airworthiness

Engine Manufacturer GARRETT Classification Standard
Engine Model TFE 731 SER Category Transport

A/W Date 06/19/1985
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