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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:47 PM
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I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer,"
Palin tonight: http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/14183

"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer," except that you have actual responsibilities . . ."


from The Nation:

In 1985, freshly graduated from Columbia University and working for a New York business consultant, Barack Obama decided to become a community organizer. Though he liked the idea, he didn't understand what the job involved, and his inquiries turned up few opportunities.

Then he got a call from Jerry Kellman, an organizer working on Chicago's far South Side for a community group based in the churches of the region, an expanse of white, black and Latino blue-collar neighborhoods that were reeling from the steel-mill closings. Kellman was looking for an organizer for the new Developing Communities Project (DCP), which would focus on black city neighborhoods.

Obama, only 24, struck board members as "awesome" and "extremely impressive . . ."

Obama worked as an organizer at a time when Harold Washington's election as mayor stirred his hopes and dreams, as well as those of blacks and progressives in the city. Interviews with people who worked with him during that time elicited few complaints--virtually everyone described him in glowing terms, including dedicated, hard-working, dependable, intelligent, inspiring, a good listener, confident but self-effacing. They expressed admiration for him as an organizer who trained strong community leaders while keeping himself in the background and as a strategist who could turn general problems into specific, winnable issues. Loretta Augustine-Herron, a member of the DCP board that hired him, remembers him as someone who always followed the high road. "You've got to do it right," she recalls him insisting. "Be open with the issues. Include the community instead of going behind the community's back--and he would include people we didn't like sometimes. You've got to bring people together. If you exclude people, you're only weakening yourself. If you meet behind doors and make decisions for them, they'll never take ownership of the issue."

Obama worked in the organizing tradition of Saul Alinsky, who made Chicago the birthplace of modern community organizing, as translated through the Gamaliel Foundation, one of several networks of faith-based organizing. Often by confronting officials with insistent citizens--rather than exploiting personal connections, as traditional black Democrats proposed--Obama and DCP protected community interests regarding landfills and helped win employment training services, playgrounds, after-school programs, school reforms and other public amenities.

more: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg



from the LATimes:

"Ninety percent of the people in the U.S. would be terrified to walk the streets that Barack Obama walked," said Greg Galluzzo, whose Gamaliel Foundation served as a Chicago umbrella organization for groups including DCP.

He worked so hard that friends joke they had to coax him out to parties. Despite his seriousness, friends say he was a sought-after bachelor with a quick sense of humor.

Obama earned a reputation for being civil during confrontations with authorities, according to Illinois state Sen. Emil Jones Jr. He met Obama when the community organizer was leading about 30 picketers to protest soaring high-school dropout rates. The rally took place near Jones' office and he invited the group in.

"I was used to different groups coming in to state there was a problem. What impressed me about Barack was that he also had a list of recommended solutions," Jones recalled.

Their discussion led to DCP obtaining public funds for South Side at-risk high school students.

Jack Wuest, executive director of Chicago's Alternative Schools Network, marveled at Obama's ability to obtain the grant. "There were a lot of groups trying to get that money," he said.

more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usobam025598601mar02,1,6933215,full.story



from U.S. News:

As a community organizer in the Altgeld Gardens public housing project in the mid-1980s, Obama, then 23, quickly emerged as a tireless and pragmatic advocate for the community—traits that characterize the kind of president he says he wants to be. "His work as a community organizer was really a defining moment in his life, not just his career," his wife, Michelle, told U.S. News. It helped him decide "how he would impact the world"—assisting people in defining their mutual interests and working together to improve their lives.

In a speech in February announcing his presidential bid, Obama said, "It was in these neighborhoods that I received the best education I ever had." His work, he added, "taught me a lot about listening to people as opposed to coming in with a predetermined agenda."

After graduating from Columbia University in 1983 with a major in political science, Obama worked as a financial consultant in New York City. But he was bored—and drawn to public service. In 1985, he moved to Chicago to work with local churches organizing job training and other programs for poor and working-class residents of Altgeld Gardens, a public housing project where 5,300 African-Americans tried to survive amid shuttered steel mills, a nearby landfill, a putrid sewage treatment plant, and a pervasive feeling that the white establishment of Chicago would never give them a fair shake.

Jerry Kellman, a social activist who recruited Obama, recalls, "He was very bright, very articulate, very personable, and very idealistic," inspired by civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.'s philosophy of nonviolence. Kellman offered Obama a job at the annual salary of $10,000, and he threw in $2,000 so Obama could buy a ramshackle car to get around.

Obama was a stranger to the area but caught on quickly by showing humility and a strong work ethic. "We knew what was wrong in the community but we didn't know how to get something done about it," recalls Yvonne Lloyd, 78, who worked with Obama. Obama insisted on "staying in the background while he empowered us." By Obama's own admission, there were few big victories. But whether it was getting the city to fill potholes, provide summer jobs, or remove asbestos from the apartments or persuading the apartment managers to repair toilets, pipes, and ceilings, Obama encouraged residents to come up with their own priorities with the gentle admonition: "It's your community."

more: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070826/3obama.htm
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:48 PM
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1. Yeah it's kinda like leaving a small town 20 million in debt
Exactly like that.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 05:54 AM
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10. mayorin's hard work
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:48 AM
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22. yeah shucks especially when yer a lipsticked pit bulled barracuda like n' stuff
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:22 AM
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15. And being forced to hire a city manager.
For a town of less than 6,000 at the time. Exactly like that.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:49 AM
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23. Coming from a similar sized town
That just makes me laugh. How ridiculous, you know?
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 03:57 PM
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27. I grew up in that size of town.
The mayor did hardly anything and was more a figurehead than any real executive. The idea of the mayor of that size of town running for and winning the governorship is astounding in the first place. Then again, I live in Michigan, a very different state.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:54 PM
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30. I'm from MT
in many ways a lot like Alaska. It's just bizarre to puff up her qualifications in such a ridiculous way. Instead of trying to make her into something she is not, concentrate on her strengths, you know? Lack of experience? Point out what her experience is, then talk about her policies and some accomplishments and keep saying words like "smart" "talented " thoughtful" "rising star." But harping on things like "She has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined" just makes her seem like a joke. Or that she has foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia and she commands the national guard. That's farcical.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:49 PM
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2. Recommended n/t
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:52 PM
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3. Don 't you know
according to the repukes running today a community organizer is something to laugh at. My local volunteer fire departments (the whole county) and all those trying to help others are going to love that. Then there are the people they are helping that are going to love that. :evilgrin:




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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:03 AM
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6. This is what the GOP does. When they don't understand something, they mock it.
To paraphrase Barack, "It's like they take pride in being ignorant".
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fulllib Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:53 PM
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4. Thank you for this
This is why we are here on this post this evening.

This is why we have voted lib or prog for however long.

This is what is good about our party yet can't be distilled to talking points.

This is what we have to find a way to convey to the general public by Nov. 4

Thanks again.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:57 PM
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5. a breath of fresh air...
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:08 AM
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7. The key question...
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 12:09 AM by skids
We can beat her (and the entire RNC audience and by extension the party) over the head with this to good effect, but even moreso if his organization ever surpassed the number of employees/volunteers that Palin's mayorship supervised.

It's a perfect way to bring up both Obama's service, and her mishaps as mayor.
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csorman Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:11 AM
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8. This is going to GELL
support for Obama in so many ways. How DARE they laugh at his bravery in serving the community. How DARE they mock his "healing the planet." How DARE they make jokes about his service. They will continue to tread on this track - though I can't say I am disenchanted, because it will BACKFIRE.

In the words of my father, we should just send them a box full of shovels and backwards-pedalling bicycles. 'Cause that's where they're going.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:14 AM
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9. Small town mayor: fire librarian, when she won't ban books. Fire police chief ...
... when he's not behind the NRA agenda. Fire anyone who isn't personally loyal.

That's not what a community organizer does.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:45 AM
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11. In short: Obama has had a far more profound "mayoral" experience AT 24!
I knew he was a community organiser, but the depth and width I didn't know. Thanks for posting!
:thumbsup:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:01 AM
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12. while she was trying to be a beauty queen . . .
:kick:
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:42 AM
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32. And bouncing from school to school trying to find one to allow her to graduate!
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:39 AM
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13. Excellent. Obama is so impressive. K&R! -nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:16 AM
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14. I look forward to this remark being shoved up her ass
Another major difference between mayorin' and community organizing is that one comes with a government paycheck and benefits while the other one takes long hours for little or no pay, working and meeting with some of the most desperate people in the worst neighborhoods.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 05:46 PM
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31. read this and pass it around
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:42 AM
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16. That was one of the most repulsive comments of this election so far.
And the asshole base laughed and applauded droolingly. Disgusting.

I guess the GOP isn't going for the urban vote. Or the social worker vote, or the consumer advocate
vote, or the union vote, or the middle class vote, etc. etc.
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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:12 AM
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19. I agree
completely repulsive and disgusting. I didn't hear the speach but I heard the "actual responsibility" quote this morning and was shocked that someone would say something so crass. Palin is really disgusting.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:45 AM
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17. Obama's David Plouffe on Community Organizing
. . .in an e-mail to the campaign's supporters following Palin's speech defending Obama:

"Both Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin specifically mocked Barack's experience as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed," Plouffe wrote. "Let's clarify something for them right now. Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/04/biden_acknowledges_palins_grea.html
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:54 AM
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18. NTM, Palin was paid five times what Obama was paid nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:26 AM
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20. and cost the city even more, leaving them a huge deficit
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:43 AM
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21. I bet Obama didn't leave Chicago a $20 mill debt with his job.
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rdublue Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:52 AM
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24. Disgusting and degrading
Community organizers have plenty of responsibility. I found this statement appalling.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:11 PM
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25. I guess a mayor is sorta like a community organizer
except a community organizer made $10,000 a year and the mayor made $64,000 a year. Over 60% of HOUSEHOLDS make less than $60,000 a year, but pay no attention to that, the wealthy and powerful person is just like us working class people.
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cling2reality Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 01:38 PM
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26. community organizer = faith based intitiative
I am a long time lurker, first time poster so I could not start my own thread but I have to highlight another element of this hypocrisy.
Doesn't community organizer = bush's faith based initiative?
Would somebody send this to a media contact, everyone seems to have missed it.

It was the first executive order he issued and he said it himself in 2001 and I quote

Dateline: 01/30/01

As he promised during the campaign, President Bush launched his "faith-based" initiative on Monday by establishing a White House office to assist and encourage faith-based organizations is seeking federal funds to combat problems like drug addiction and homelessness.

In a first executive order, Bush created the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. University of Pennsylvania political science professor John Dilulio was named as the head of the new office.

In a White House announcement, President Bush stated, "It is one of the great goals of my administration to invigorate the spirit of involvement and citizenship. We will encourage faith-based and community programs without changing their mission. We will help all in their work to change hearts while keeping a commitment to pluralism."
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:02 PM
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28. The only thing most Mayor's do is hand out contracts to their buddies.
That's all 90% of the mayors in america actually get done.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 04:07 PM
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29. They don't like the peasants trying to organize.
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