Police: Angry driver kills egg-throwing teen

[CRF450]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16014703/?GT1=8816

"COLUMBUS, Ohio - A 14-year-old boy who was throwing eggs at cars along with two other teenagers was shot and killed by someone who had been in a sport utility vehicle that was hit, police said.

Danny Crawford was killed by a gunshot wound to his upper body, Franklin County Coroner Brad Lewis said. He died in an alley on the city’s west side early Saturday, authorities said.

The teens were throwing eggs at cars when an SUV that was struck chased them, Detective Tim Huston said. The vehicle stopped and several gunshots were fired, he said."



Egg throwing, I do not condone what so ever against someone elses personal property. But this is fucked up.

[thunder rising]

1. I'll bet that is one sorry individual that pulled that trigger.

[GreenPartyVoter]

78. I hope so

[mike_c]

2. rather than hastening to condemn egging...

..."against someone elses personal property" I'm gonna be blunt. Killing someone because they got a car dirty is more than "fucked up." It's symptomatic of a greed based society that values stuff far more than it values anything that's really meaningful. I hope there is a special karma waiting for the person who did this.

[CRF450]

6. I agree. I'm kinda speaking from my experience though..

One of the cars I'v owned was egged by some asshole, and it actaully left spider cracks in the paint. Turned into a pretty expensive fix. I still wanna bash that persons's face in, but kill? No way in hell I could do that.

[JVS]

20. Throwing objects at vehicles is dangerous. You could cause a crash, or get shot.

[cherokeeprogressive]

24. My best high school friend got hit by a water balloon on Graduation Day in 79.

He rode the moped he was riding into a tree next to a driveway and broke a shoulder, his pelvis, and his femur. He was never the same. Such promise, trashed by someone's belief that throwing things at other people wasn't that big a deal.

The defenders of egg throwing would never understand that.

[Marr]

35. I would bet you the driver wasn't concerned about his car, but rather his

manhood. I expect he felt that he'd been disrespected and had to prove what a tough guy he was in response.

[Blue_Tires]

56. sadly, i have known more than a few communities who would have cheered the shooter

because materiel wealth trumps all...

[tburnsten]

85. Could have been some gang-banger

who felt disrespected by it. Who knows. But killing the boy was completely fucked, though a good couple of right crosses would have set him straight. What if he caused an accident and someone was crushed under a vehicle?

[mike_c]

95. yeah well-- all the various "what if's" folks have posed...

...only make any sense at all up until the time the driver suffered no damage or injury, but went after the kid and killed him anyway. After that, reality kicks in. There were no gang bangers, nobody had an accident, nobody was hurt, nobody's property was even appreciably damaged.

The driver got angry. He killed the person who made him angry. His actions were completely unjustified.

[tburnsten]

97. Whether or not the driver was part of our criminal element

doesn't matter to the family or the boy, but it certainly matters to law enforcement and the rest of us. Especially since this incident will be held up as a reason why concealed carry is a bad thing, in fact it already has on this thread, so if the fellow was not a respectable guy before this incident, it makes a difference to the ongoing debate about concealed carry.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

98. The driver of the SUV may have been a gang banger.

It was found, abandoned a short time later. Don't throw eggs at car thieves seems to be the best advice. Foolish to throw the eggs, not worth dying over.

David

[lpbk2713]

3. You are aware that article is from December 2006, yes?

:shrug:

[OhioChick]

5. The date is an error on MSNBC's part....

Ohio Teen Egging Cars Is Shot, Killed

POSTED: 12:03 pm EDT August 31, 2008
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/17352830/detail.html

[Crabby Appleton]

50. Actually the date is correct in article, they refer to 2 different incidents

there was an '06 and '08 shooting over egg throwing.

[HughMoran]

4. Fuckin' hot tempered moran is going to jail for life

Heh, how's that for egg on your face?

[Name removed]

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[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

11. You ARE shitting us, right? nt.

[-..__...]

12. No, I ARE not shitting you.

The gun-grabbing mouth breathers here are usually flock to incidents like this like flies to shit.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

19. Well...

Consider for a moment that an apparently unstable person was in possession of a firearm and used it to kill a kid. For throwing an egg. An egg.

Kind of a disproportionate response, wouldn't you say. That response leades to valid questions regarding that person and what he was doing in possession of a firearm, wouldn't you say? And then, this being a forum, a marketplace for opinions, people start to look for ways to keep guns out of the hands of people who would do such things, which is also appropriate, wouldn't you say?

[-..__...]

25. Definitely a disproportionate response.

Pointing to it as validation or justification for gun control?... No.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

99. Well...

SUV found abandoned. Likely a stolen vehicle. Which would mean that a criminal was probably in illegal possession of a firearm? Criminals in illegal possession of firearms commit the vast majority of homicides and assaults with firearms in this country. Many people here have proposed ways to keep firearms away from violent criminals without encroaching on others people freedoms, that should be everyones purpose.

David

[Name removed]

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30. I wouldn't have shot the kid.

So, what's yer point?

Displeased with my contempt and harsh language for the gun control crowd?

[Bob Dobbs]

32. Disgusted with your justification of the murderer's right to own the murder weapon.

We can't be sure you wouldn't have shot the kid.

Obviously you own guns to "protect yourself from criminals", or those you define as criminals.

[cherokeeprogressive]

36. If the egg had gone through the windshield and caused the driver to lose control

and drive through a bus stop that had 10 people waiting for their bus, killing all, and then careening across the street to kill everyone in a van ferrying 10 kids to a shelter for abused children, you'd say what?

BAN EGGS!

Do you have any fucking idea how FUCKING STUPID your belief that a gun can only be classified as a "murder weapon" is?

[Bob Dobbs]

37. This gun WAS a murder weapon

and the guy that owned it obviously was not responsible enough to own it.

Do you know how fucking stupid your justification of this guy's actions is?

[cherokeeprogressive]

40. ANYTHING you use to cause the end of the life of another HUMAN BEING is a murder weapon.

Are you going to tell me that they were throwing eggs to enrich their own lives, and those of the automobiles they might have hit? Or you going to man up and tell me that they were throwing eggs to try and witness the worst thing that might have happened as a result of same?

Do you get that? Be it eggs, water balloons, knives, or fucking tennis shoes and paper plates. Violate my right to live my life without being subjected to violence by ANY means and you'll get a response from me measured not by what weapon you used against me IN THE FIRST PLACE, but by what I can use against you to GUARANTEE you won't do it a second time.

GUNS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

Do you get that?

Throw an egg at me, and I might throw a rock back. YOU STARTED IT.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

101. Do you know who the shooter is?

If so please report him.

David

[Donald Ian Rankin]

52. When eggs start killing tens of thousands of people a year, lets think about restricting them

Till then, lets stick with thinking about saner gun laws.

[LanternWaste]

82. When eggs are outlawed

When eggs are outlawed, only outlaws will accidentally egg their kids... :evilgrin:

[Dorian Gray]

65. Right....

the kid was wrong for throwing eggs, and if he wasn't shot and killed in response to his throwing eggs, I'd be all in support of him being arrested. And if the car did lose control as a result of his egg throwing and the driver died, I'd be in support of his being tried for murder or manslaughter. But, that's not what happened. So the man with the gun should be tried and found guilty for murder.

Both were wrong for their actions, but neither deserved to die because of the other person's weapon at hand.

[fifthoffive]

69. Absolutely right, Dorian Gray

This is the correct reasoned response to this event.

[EOTE]

76. Yes, eggs cause tens of thousands of deaths every year.

If accidents like you listed above occurred frequently, then you MIGHT be making a somewhat valid argument. As accidents like that never happen, it's a pretty FUCKING STUPID argument that you're making. Also, I haven't heard a single person here call for the banning of eggs OR guns. Just to make it far more difficult for assholes like the one listed in the OP to obtain them.

[tburnsten]

90. Does the article say whether or not

the shooter was even eligible to own firearms? If he wasn't, and was some gangbanger, than no amount of legal changes would have prevented him from getting his gun.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

91. Not true.

The fewer legal guns there are around, and the more restricted they are, the harder it will be to get hold of one illegally.

[tburnsten]

93. You're british right?

How are all those Polish guns doing anyway?

[fascisthunter]

103. Oh brotherrrr.... what a goofey hypothetical

you do know the difference between an egg and a gun right????? Or do I have to spell it out for you... one is designed to kill, the other was natural created by a fucking chicken!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

100. When did he do that?

[krispos42]

48. I bet the shooter is a criminal prohibited from owning a weaon to begin with

Probably a gang member who got dissed in front of his peers. "You gonna let him diss you like that?" says a passenger. And that's all it take. :-9

[sendero]

51. Even more ridiculous..

... is the very notion that you or anyone else can do ANYTHING about it.

Yeah, pass a law saying "bad people can't have guns". Let me know how that works out for ya moron.

[Vickers]

38. Welcome

to my personal dungeon.

:hi:

[Indenturedebtor]

57. I wonder why?

I'm sure that this guy would have killed the kid with a rock if he didn't have a gun.....

oops almost forgot :sarcasm:

[dionysus]

64. FR is thattaway -------------------->

:puke:

[benEzra]

111. Being pro-choice on guns is not synonymous with freeperhood.

[CRF450]

112. I guess that means half of DU are freeps

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Forrest Greene]

68. By That Analogy

...the gun owner here is a piece of shit.

Hey, you got something right!

[LanternWaste]

81. As do the antithesis of the gun-grabbers.

"...usually flock to incidents like this like flies to shit."

As do the antithesis of the gun-grabbers. Threads like these do tend to showcase the worst of both extremes-- each side maintaining their own sanity whilst denigrating and deriding the perspectives of the others.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other-- yet the rancid smell's the same.

[Pithlet]

17. Nope. Looks like you drew first lather. n/t

[-..__...]

26. Nope...

I just missed it the first time around (the incident did happen in 2006)...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2849472

[demmiblue]

53. LOL... good point!

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

42. ---

[hfojvt]

8. I had eggs thrown at me while I biked down the street

If I'd had a rocket-launcher, or a .44 magnum, I would have gladly used it on the stupid punks, even though both eggs missed me. Probably it's a good thing that I don't own a gun.

I'd say the a$$hole kids drew first blood and that the world is probably better off with one less inconsiderate moron. If that kid had grown up he might have turned into the kind of jerk who would buy an SUV and shoot some kid who threw an egg at it.


Or, worse yet, the kind of slimeball who would defend such an action on an internet discussion board.

[LiberalFighter]

9. You can borrow the gun I don't have.

[mike_c]

10. "...the a$$hole kids drew first blood...."

That is utterly fucked up. You need to step back and reconsider what separates rational human beings from redneck fuckwits. Nothing that you own is worth someone's life. You'd be willing to kill someone for being an "inconsiderate moron" who'd hit your bike with an egg? An EGG, for Pete's sake. You'd advocate killing someone to save yourself thirty seconds cleanup with a damp rag? That is fucked up beyond belief.

[bean fidhleir]

62. "Nothing that you own is worth someone's life."

Is that always true, Mike? Suppose someone wants to take my water when I'm in the desert? Or my insulin kit when I'm far from anywhere I can replace it in time? (Add other situations of similar gravity)

[Runcible Spoon]

70. umm, in your hypothetical cases insulin and water ARE life, not mere things.

but way to put up your little strawman.

[bean fidhleir]

113. You should think a little more deeply.

I posed the questions to Mike precisely because he's not someone to overstate the case the way you just did. Water and insulin are possessions. That I would probably die if they were taken from me is just the extreme case. I wouldn't *necessarily* die - someone could show up and rescue me.

Possessions represent the amount of life we give up to get them. If someone steals them, he steals that much of our one, irreplaceable life. If the possessions have great emotional value, the damage can be many times the nominal value. If the possessions can never be replaced because the victim is now old or ill --or out in the desert-- the loss can be devastating, even fatal.

It's the worst sort of smarmy cant to pretend that the life of someone who steals from the non-wealthy is more important than the harm he does. A career criminal might only take a fraction of 1% of the life of each of his victims, but the sum of all his thefts might be a dozen lives.

[joshcryer]

15. During the fourth of July I was walking down the street and someone threw 4-5 lit firecrackers at me

...they landed at my feet and scorched my legs a bit. I'm sure an assault charge was in order.

But I didn't feel the least bit angry at those idiots to be honest. They thought they were being funny and did something stupid as fuck (they probably could've got some serious assault charges had I chosen to file and wrote down their tag number).

[hfojvt]

27. that leaf must work wonders for equanimity

I probably would have exploded louder than the firecrackers. How are they ever gonna learn that what they did was "stupid as fu$%" unless they face some consequences?

[Bob Dobbs]

33. Consequences, yes. Murder, no.

Weed is to equanimity as alcohol is to murder.

[Fumesucker]

61. Weed is to equanimity as alcohol is to murder.

Wow! Well said..

Which is why pot is still illegal.

[Dorian Gray]

66. Why the hell didn't you?

File assault charges, that is.

That's insane.

I know someone who caught the finger off someone who was playing with fire crackers. Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

102. We had a women sent to a burn center with 3rd degree burns for the same thing.

Firecrackers lit her blouse on fire. She spent months at a burn center.

David

[vanderBeth]

18. "the world is probably better off with one less inconsiderate moron"

Are you honestly saying that that kid deserved being killed? Some cop shot him but it's okay because we're better off.

[cboy4]

23. Yea, he was a 14 year old asshole.

Thank God he was shot.

:eyes:

[cherokeeprogressive]

31. DING DING DING.

I think most people who've been abused by punks and bullies would respond in kind x10 if they had the chance. I know I would have.

I was bullied. 'Til one day I ACCIDENTALLY hit my bully in the mouth. For the year before that, he took my lunch money any time he noticed me before lunch.

The kids who were throwing eggs were bullies. They thought that because bullying kids their age was so easy, they could get away with most anything.

[Marr]

39. Kids do stupid things.

There's no way we can know what this kid was like just by this one incident. One of the nicest, kindest kids in my junior high got into all kinds of trouble for some pretty serious vandalism. He was around a bad egg, pardon the expression, and I think, just desperately trying to win approval.

[hfojvt]

44. true, I can remember the story my brother tells

of when he and my future brother-in-law were throwing snowballs at cars and sometimes being chased by irate drivers. I wouldn't have wanted to see either of them killed for doing it, but if they were I would not put all the blame on the driver. They should not have been doing what they were doing.

[Marr]

45. Oh, of course.

Kids do stupid things. Unfortunately, over-aggressive nut-jobs also do stupid things.

[hfojvt]

47. you don't know that he is over-agressive, or a nut-job

Maybe he's a quiet, studious, decent guy who is sick of taking sh*t from a$$holes and has decided to hit back very, very hard. Maybe he wasn't a nut job until the world kept push, push, pushing his buttons until he snapped. He was the victim here, who turned the tables on his attackers.

[Fumesucker]

54. LOL... "you don't know that he is over-agressive, or a nut-job"

Anyone who chases someone down and shoots and kills them for having their car egged is by definition "over aggressive" and a "nut-job".

I have a hard time believing people are actually serious with some of the crap they write here.

[hfojvt]

79. We don't all have the same definitions

In the movie "Witness" a bunch of thugs are harrassing the Amish, who refuse to fight back. Harrison Ford, the Philadelphia cop who is hiding with the Amish, flattens the lead punk. At which point they whine that "you didn't have to break his nose".

The aggressor, in my view, is the one who starts it, even if they think their attack is minor.

[Marr]

71. No, I think I can safely assert that he's an over-aggressive nutjob.

He murdered a kid for hitting his car with an egg. That's pretty much the definition. Even if he snapped, as you said-- he'd still be an over-aggressive nutjob because he murdered a kid for hitting his car with an egg.

[hfojvt]

77. except, to me, an aggressive person is somebody who STARTS something

Not somebody who finishes it. If I am sitting there reading a book or quietly walking down the street and you pick a fight with me, I am not aggressive if I beat the crap out of you.

[Marr]

80. If someone picks a fight with you, and you give them one--

I don't see that as particularly aggressive. That's almost a public service. It's how some of our more Neanderthal brothers learn not to act like an asshole. But if someone picks a fight with you and you shoot them in the face... yeah, you're being overly-aggressive.

If this man had lost it and given the kid a thrashing, I'd still say he'd probably overreacted-- probably-- but hey, people do lose their tempers when they're under stress. There's a point at which the response becomes irrational, however, and shooting the kid repeatedly is *well* beyond that point.

[TroglodyteScholar]

108. Let's work with an example that fits this story...

If you are sitting there reading a book or quietly walking down the street and I throw some breakfast at you, are you aggressive if you put a bullet in my chest?

[gtar100]

13. Anger unrestrained knows no boundaries, no matter how small the slight

How sad.

[dorktv]

14. One turns the car around and chases those kids back to their houses

and then sues them for damages if their parents refuse to make them clean up the mess. One does not SHOOT anyone.

[hfojvt]

29. Who are you to judge?

They aren't gonna run back to their houses anyway.

[Bob Dobbs]

34. Who is he to judge, you ask?

Not a murderer.

A better "who" to judge than the idiot who pulled the trigger or the idiots who support his ownership of a murder weapon.

[hfojvt]

46. Why are there so many idiots?

And yet, apparently, the ones who started it by throwing eggs are as pure as Tony Snow and smarter than Stephen Hawking. Maybe other people should remember that the person they are harrassing might be armed and dangerous.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Drive by egging, plaguing L.A.

Yo, they just got my little cousin, ese...

[Marr]

41. If everyone carried eggs, this wouldn't have happened.

He could've defended himself with equal force.

This only convinces me all the more that we need concealed egg permits.

[Indenturedebtor]

59. Post of the year award

Post

Of

The

Year

:applause:

[cherokeeprogressive]

22. Sounds like the driver who was hit by the egg brought a gun to the eggfight.

Throw eggs at someone you don't know and see what it gets ya.

I'd like to see the shooter do time. The same time ANY murderer would get. This was, and this is INDISPUTABLE: MURDER.

Still though, I'm thinking, throw things at other people, expect things to come flying back. You bring an egg, I bring a rock. You bring a knife in answer to my rock, I bring a gun. Someone loses, to an unthinkable extent, and the other is punished, albeit being the object of someone ELSE'S initial violent act. Argue that egg throwing isn't violent, and I'll counter with if you've been hit by an egg, you initially don't know WHAT the situation is. Still though, it was murder for the victim to kill the perpetrator.

This is Parental Failure in spades. My teenage daughter would NEVER EVER, FUCKING EVER think of not only STARTING with violence, she'd never think of escalating a violent encounter. I've succeeded.

The shooter needs to be punished.

[moriah]

28. I don't condone egg-throwing, but woah, WTF, and does this guy have a mental health record?

Seriously, there some anger management issues here.

I've never understood road-rage bad enough to make someone want to kill another person. And I've driven in Manhattan. Sure, I've given the finger to quite a few cars -- safer than honking IMHO because it's not going to distract the other drivers -- but all I ever did when I got really pissed off was yell in my car at the person or turn the dial to heavy metal and sing along.

Dude most likely has a significant mental health issue.

[cherokeeprogressive]

43. The worst thing about this thread and its defenders is that

had the car gone out of control and the kid who threw the egg got injured, it'd be the driver's fault IF IT COULDN'T BE PROVED THAT THE KID'S EGG CAUSED THE ACCIDENT.

Go figure.

[Violet_Crumble]

49. The only defenders I've seen in this thread are ones that think murdering a kid is justified...

I haven't seen anyone saying that it's okay for kids to throw eggs at cars. What I have seen is a bunch of people justifying someone murdering a kid who was throwing eggs at cars. Is America different than other places round the world? Calling the police or pulling up and giving the kids an earful, they're what rational and sane people tend to do. But shooting at a kid? No, that's incredibly fucked up and anyone who thinks that doing that is an acceptable reaction has some serious emotional issues. I live on a main road and a few weeks ago I was outside having a late-night smoke and spotted some kids on the other side of the road with one of those laser thingys. I guess I should have borrowed someone's gun and just shot the little morons, but when a car came up the road and the kids got into the middle of the road ready to flash the laser in the driver's eyes, I yelled at the top of my lungs and they ran off. At that time of night they weren't expecting an audience and the cop who talked to me later said he bet they pissed their pants when I yelled at them. See, hoping the cops catch irresponsible morons like that or that they literally shat themselves when they got busted is a reaction in proportion to what they were doing. Murdering them isn't....

btw, maybe cops in the US are stupider than they are here, but when accidents have happened here due to stones or other projectiles being thrown, they sure as hell have proved that it was the kids throwing things that have caused it...

[treestar]

75. The kid's side would have the burden of proof that it was the

driver's negligence that caused the accident. Most states have some kind of comparative fault, too, so the kid could be assigned a percentage. Chances are someone throwing eggs at your car does not in itself make you lose control of the vehicle. But there would be a shock and a distraction there that could put blame on the thrower.

It's also probably a violation of some statute to throw things at moving traffic, so that would come in too to support comparative negligence.

[bread_and_roses]

55. The responses of some above are the best argument I've seen lately for gun control

How obvious the vicious world-view that defends shooting a youth armed with...eggs. After all, it isn't as if kids have been throwing things they think are harmless - eggs, snowballs, ripe tomatoes - at cars since there were cars, is it? And that most of them are perfectly nice kids engaging one time in something they think is harmless because DEVELOPMENTALLY youth are unable to asses risk in the same fashion as adults.

And if tomorrow there is a story about someone killing his own errant teenager trying to creep in the house un-noticed in the middle of the night, they'll defend that too...after all, "good" teens never do that and so won't get killed by a parent's gun - better that the "bad" ones be removed from the gene pool. And if the day after that we read that a five year old seeking comfort in his parents' bed in the middle of the night is shot and killed by a startled parent, well, that five year old was probably a mouth-breathing bed-wetter - better to remove him from the gene pool as well.

This is not the usual blah blah blah from gun advocates - it is a mirror into some sick souls.

[undeterred]

58. This is why we should take all the guns away.

Too many people with hot tempers driving around.

[DS1]

60. Awww someone's fragile little SUV got a little protein on it

awwww

[Dorian Gray]

63. seriously messed up

I can see stopping and cursing him out, maybe. But SHOOTING him in the chest????

Road rage gone awry!

Stop guns!

[Mad_Dem_X]

67. Egging cars is nothing compared to killing someone

Egging cars is juvenile. I would have been mad, too, if somebody did that to my car. But, to chase the kids down and SHOOT at them? WTF?

[Boxerfan]

72. I threw "mud pies" at cars when I was 8 years old...Glad times were different in the 60's

Way too many short fuses around nowadays...I was going to make a seperate post but RE this incident.

I was a freakin KID-Stupid-Temporarily maybe. Not mean or angry-just misled by an older boy who said it was fun.

It was till a man pulled up & asked for directions. I being a nice kid went over to tell him & he grabbed me. Yanked me in his truck & drove me to the Police Dept.

Scared me shitless & as of now-Thinking back-Thank you sir.

Fucking shot a kid.

Think about what some of Y''all are saying-

[ProfessorGAC]

73. When I Was In High School. . .

. . . the son of a guy my dad worked with was shot by a guy IN MY HOMEROOM for throwing a snowball at his car. 30-06 through the heart. Dead in less than a minute. Just barely missed his little brother. (Bullet went through the hood of his winter coat.)

He's still in jail.
The Professor

[Catherine Vincent]

74. Another case of anger getting the best of someone.

So sad. :(

[LanternWaste]

83. During my HS years

During my HS years, I remember that egging houses and TP-ing shrubbery was a cute fad that we both engaged in and were victims of. The victims and the perpetrators viewed it as little more than a prank-- which is exactly what it was.

Maybe today's eggs are dangerous or radioactive or something, but getting angry over an egging, let along killing someone because of it tends to reinforce my belief that our culture is simply reactionary and dangerous.

[CRF450]

87. Who knows but they really can do some damage to auto paint.

I have first hand experience with this.

[LanternWaste]

92. Auto paint.

It's Auto Paint. Nothing but mere color on a piece of metal.


But, for those to whom auto paint is a Big Deal in Life, and worthy of some oddly-justified rage and vengeance, try this...

1. Wipe off as much as you can.

2. Use a soft cloth to remove the remainder.

3. Create a mixture using 1 part water and 1 part vinegar.

4. Soak a towel in the mixture, and place it on the egg stain. You can also spray the mixture onto the car using a spray bottle. Allow the towel to sit for at least 15 to 20 minutes.


However, at the end of the day, it's nothing more than mere auto paint.

[CRF450]

110. Some of us take great pride in the car we own.

And do not want any kind of im-perfection, to you it could be just color, to me its my property and I'm in charge of how well I want it to be taken care of. A little stain/scratched paint would be a HUGE eye sore to me. When it comes to my truck i wouldn't mind so much, since I use it for work and other utility perposes, but my car? Hell I dont eve let my friends lean up against it when hangin out with some people. I would never outright kill someone that egg's my car, but an ass beating would be order for sure.

My ride BTW

[tburnsten]

84. Very sad

I wonder if the driver had any previously known mental health issues, or if he was just the odd egg that exploded unexpectedly? I think beating the hell out of someone for damaging property like that, which also causes potentially life-threatening situations or sever property damage from accidents would be totally acceptable. A citizens arrest would be fine. Shooting them, well, I don't even really know how to describe it. Ducky.

I wonder if the driver intended to kill him or was just struck with a moment of horrendously poor judgement and was going to try and scare the boy? Was the driver a licensed carrier, because it would really surprise me if he was. Generally carriers are the goody-two-shoes of the shooting community, it is incredibly rare for one to act like that.

[Catherine Vincent]

86. "I wonder if the driver intended to kill him .."

From the article: 'several gunshots were fired,'

I think he was intending to kill.

[tburnsten]

89. Oh ok

At work, limited time. Definitely sounds like some dude who felt he was being disrespected then. Plenty of those types in urban areas, seems like dense populations leads to increased idiot macho posturing.

[flvegan]

88. This is why all egg-throwing teens should be armed with guns.

[Dukkha]

94. amazes me how so-called liberals place property over human life

especially a fucking SUV :mad:

[fascisthunter]

104. no liberal does that... only posers claiming to be liberals..

[Greyhound]

96. When eggs are outlawed... n/t

[book_worm]

105. You never know who you are shitting with, it could have been a hit man for the mob.

[Guaranteed]

106. THAT is why you leave your gun at HOME. nt

[New Dawn]

107. And the moral of the story is: do not throw eggs at cars.

[demgurl]

109. How very sad......

I can not help but be reminded of a speaker that went on Oprah's show. He was dying and he wrote a final speech for his children. He told of a time when he bought a new car. That weekend he was taking his niece and nephew. The kids hopped into their Uncle's brand new car and the sister stood there telling the kids to be careful with the new car. The kids started laughing hysterically because their Uncle poured an entire drink on the floor of his car! He said it was only a car and there are so many more important things in life. He went on to say he was so happy he had done that because his nephew got sick in the car that weekend. He said his nephew would have felt guilty if he had not spilled that drink and that it was so worth it.

Egging a car was not right but murdering someone for that is so wrong. Murder is much worse than a kid's prank. Material possessions can not be taken with you. Yes, your car may not be shiny new after an egg hits it but it will still be in working condition. This kid's life was not up for the taking. Taking it was wrong.