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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-29-08 08:50 PM Original message |
Andrew Sullivan/"Misreading American Women?" ..."Sarah Palin is a Bad Mother!" |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-29-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. It is interesting... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. I bet he's really pissed that Palin is so brazenly anti-gay. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-29-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yep. I think American women won't like this |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-29-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. Whatever makes her unpalatable is fine with me. |
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vanlassie (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-29-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Just to add my 2 cents- I agree that it is appalling |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 06:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. ... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Are we judging how she chooses to balance her family and professional life? |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Bingo. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Are you kidding me? You don't "balance" a 4 month old DS kid with a Presidential race... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. How many male candidates run with young children? |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
65. How many PRESIDENTIAL candidates run with infants? Zero in my lifetime. n/t |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. JFK in 1960 |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-31-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #81 |
88. WRONG. Caroline was already 3 in 1960. Not an infant. John Jr born AFTER election... |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
69. No matter how much of a feminist you are |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Nobody wants to "control" Palin. Rather you seem to want to control voters minds... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. My point is that, if we have the right to criticize her for hypocrisy (and rightly so), |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. No. There is a line between "how to raise a family" and child abuse. Do you defend the... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Do you know for a fact that this child is suffering from "child abuse"? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. From another thread it looks like she never even bore this child. She went back to work |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. You didn't answer my question about child abuse. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. I am saying she was NOTY even pregnant on the plane! so yes I answered your question. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. You have the right to critcize anyone you want. I simply do not want to send a message |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I suppose the big difference |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Is she breast feeding the baby? If so, she has to take him with her. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. You just like saying "breast", like Beavis and Butthead. The DAD could be |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. That's the story. |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Heh, heh, heh. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Yep. That's about the level of discussion, Beavis. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
66. If the baby is being breast fed, he won't be on the campaign trail. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. More unsubstantiated rumor. You lose all credibility that way. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. Gender equality is not the point. The point is whether some |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. I understand what you're trying to say but you will ALIENATE our own women |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. I have said that they should say absolutely NOTHING about Palin's kids |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. What about this? |
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faithfulcitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. YES, that's what we do. We judge politicians, and make a decision by voting. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. If I judged politicians by moral values, I'd never fucking vote. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
55. Even here, on a liberal Democratic board, there were a significant |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. In my opinion, Edwards shouldn't have run: his wife had cancer and he had a secret |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. I realize that the "secret" made it irresponsible, but that wasn't known |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Which kids needed her time? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. The kids needed both parents - and she likely needed him |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
68. the rethugs tried |
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Psst_Im_Not_Here (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-29-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. My sister is an independent, single, working mother of 3 |
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Raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. But, but, but she can "multi-task" don't ya know??? |
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Sisaruus (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. how many people said no? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. What about the father? Shouldn't he be taking care of the child? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
15. Isn't her husband a "stay-at-home" dad? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. i htought he had three jobs. fisherman. something with big oil. and shadow decision making |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. No, he works for BP. And the circumstances under which he got |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Then perhaps you should be arguing that Palin is a bad dad |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. maybe gov doesnt pay enough to feed the family. maybe they need money to eat |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Nonsense. You're reaching for straws there. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. tell ya what. both parents are working and there is a four month old down syndrome child |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Have they hired someone to care for the child? |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. Todd Palin has a $120K "part-time" job with a foreign oil company |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Is he still on BP's payroll or is he now at home with the kid? |
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vanlassie (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Mothers and Fathers are NOT interchangable in the lifes of newborn babies. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. If the official story of the baby's birth is to be believed, |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. First, make sure it's the real story |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Here's an article from the Anchorage paper. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Palin seems to have been in touch with the doctor the whole time, so I get your point about the doc |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. "All babies deserve to be breastfed." Really? |
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vanlassie (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Yes. Just like you deserve clean air to breathe and water to drink. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Clearly you didn't read the rest of the message. My answer would be NO |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. But women who embrace reactionary policies should be called out |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. That's a difficult point to make in a sound bite world. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
83. A better point to make: |
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DCgirl (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. What is Palin thinking? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. But should Democrats react the same way as RW fundies? |
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DCgirl (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I not saying we should think the same way RW fundies, but |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. A lot of people use "concern for the child" as a cover for politics or woman bashing |
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DCgirl (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Not Palin bashing… |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You may be right about the backlash, but as far as Hillary supporters go |
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DCgirl (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. I can understand their concerns, but… |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. If you're on DU, you're preaching to the choir |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Thank you. Anyone who thinks there aren't many |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Well that is a prejudice on their part. If Palin were male, would there be the same backlash? |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. Many people view the bond between mother and infant |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
40. Even when Andy is correct, his past Shrub worship is too much |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
47. Sheesh - this is what bothers me more than her motherhood decisions |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. LOL!!! (Great point!) |
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GardeningGal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. I question the priorities of BOTH Palin parents. I'm sure this is a |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. I get the feeling some people think an infant takes care of |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. Maybe Cindy McCain has offered her services or |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. It remains to be seen how the BP Part Time Oil Employee, Snowmobile Champ and Big Time Fisherman |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
82. Yes..."Both Parents" are responsible for this decision just as they were |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
84. The Sarah Palin Pick Isn't About Hillary Clinton Supporters |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-30-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. But she's a FANTASTIC grandmother! |
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