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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:49 PM
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Noonan compares tonight's DNC rally (with the Greek columns) to Nuremberg
from Media Matters: http://mediamatters.org/items/200808280008


Noonan claimed Obama's DNC speech at Invesco Field "has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally"

Summary: In her online column, The Wall Street Journal's Peggy Noonan wrote that Sen. Barack Obama's DNC speech at Denver's Invesco Field "has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally." Other conservative pundits have made references to Nazis when talking about Obama or discussing his speeches, including radio host Tom Sullivan, who once aired what he called a "side-by-side comparison" of an Adolf Hitler speech and an Obama speech.

In her August 28 OpinionJournal.com column (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB121988803885278541.html%3Fmod%3Dtodays_columnists), Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan asserted that Sen. Barack Obama's Democratic National Convention speech at Denver's Invesco Field "has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally." Noonan wrote:

"The change of venue Thursday night to Invesco Field, and the huge, open air Obama acceptance speech is ... one of the biggest and possibly craziest gambles of this or any other presidential campaign of the modern era" ellipses in original. She continued: "Everyone can define what can go wrong, and no one can quite define what 'great move' would look like. It has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally; it has too many variables to guarantee a good tv picture; the set, the Athenian columns, looks hokey; big crowds can get in the way of subtle oratory."

Media Matters for America has previously documented other instances of conservative pundits making references to Nazis when talking about Obama, including when discussing Obama's speeches in particular. For example, on the February 11 broadcast of his Fox News Radio show, Tom Sullivan aired what he called a "side-by side comparison" of an Adolf Hitler speech and an Obama speech.



btw, the columns remind me of shots of the Lincoln memorial where MLK gave his famous speech (the anniversary of which happens to be occur on the night of Obama's acceptance address.)

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:50 PM
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1. That comment writes its own punchline about her, doesn't it?
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:51 PM
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2. Did nobody teach these cretins about Godwin's law in college?
Once you invoke the Hitler, you automatically lose the argument.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:44 AM
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28. "Godwin's Law" is bullshit. It's only used to shut down arguments on *OUR* side.
Don't fall for this trap.

Tesha

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:51 PM
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3. Jesus. It's just a big venue, with a set. That's it. They are literally scrounging
for something to attack.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:52 PM
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4. Republicon projection
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 01:55 PM by SpiralHawk
The republicons & their corporate propagansist media corps never own their own shit. They just PROJECT IT onto other people.

republicon = totally dysfunctional psyche.

The projection is just another repulicon occutist mindf*ck of America and Americans.


Ptoooey.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:52 PM
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5. That's it! Let's level DC!!
:rofl:

NGU.



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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:53 PM
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6. They love to touch themselves and think about the Nazis.
nt
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:56 PM
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7. All rightwing politics is based on projection. Noonan proves it again.
n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:58 PM
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8. Funny she should mention Nuremberg.
Since the war criminals running this country are fixing to lose their places of power. Maybe we should save those columns for another day.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:58 PM
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9. She should know
given she supports reichwingers.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:00 PM
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12. remember how some folks here were ready to embrace her during the primary
. . . because she echoed criticisms of their rival in the campaign?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:12 PM
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15. Yes, I do. Sometimes, primary races make us lose focus
and accept criticism of rivals from slanted sources unfortunately. Sometimes, it takes for the primary season to be over before people regain a sense of balance and common purpose.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:59 PM
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10. Another column sponsored by vodka.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 01:59 PM
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11. Somebody needs to tighten the buckles on Noonan's straitjacket.
Up the meds! Up the meds!

:rofl:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:22 PM
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21. She's had all she kin take, kiptain
I don't dare give her any more!

I can't for the life of me figure out why the Wall Street Journal feels constrained to run her red-crayon scribblings.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:27 PM
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22. She was an acolyte (speech-writer) for Saint Ronnie. She's a "legacy."
Edited on Thu Aug-28-08 02:30 PM by TahitiNut
:rofl:

She's also the AUTHOR of those famous words: "Read my lips! No new taxes!"

Quite an accomplishment! :puke:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:01 PM
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13. says the still love sick servant to a dead man (Reagan)
who fears Obama's ability to draw people in
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:03 PM
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14. Proves they will SAY ANYTHING to get McCain elected. Noonan is either a LIAR or STUPID
Liar if she says this and doesn't believe it.

Stupid if she actually believes it.

Typical Republican Operative.
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Darth_Ole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:18 PM
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17. MLK's speech was outdoors and before hundreds of thousands...
But she doesn't compare MLK to Hitler, or Obama to MLK. Why's that?

JFK's speech was outdoors in a venue with the word "Colosseum" in its title. Does that mean JFK was trying to be Caesar? Forget Peggy Noonan.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:15 PM
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16.  her pocket rocket broke and..
she`s been in a rotten mood ever since
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:19 PM
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19. dang.
Now I'm left with that image in my head.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 03:05 PM
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24. sorry about that........
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:18 PM
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18. I would have expected from Ann Coulter.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:19 PM
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20. Peggy Bury-me-with-my-sweet-Raygun Noonan? Surprise, surprise
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 02:42 PM
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23. These people like her do not understand true democracy. That is,
participatory government. They try to find some alternative explanation because they do not include the general public in their gatherings. For 8 years they have hand picked their audience so they would not have to see any opposition and they have run the government in secrecy. We are Democrats - We are inclusive - We are open - We want to participate and Obama is recognizing that by giving us access to the workings of the convention.

Sour grapes. In the whole 8 years they have not attracted such crowds.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 03:17 PM
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25. Somebody who obviously hasn't spent much time in Washington, DC
The whole city is columns. From the White House to the Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial to the Jefferson Memorial to hundreds of other places there are columns. Washington is all about columns.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:43 AM
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26. Yet another Right-Wing pundit who was wrong yet again.
> "The change of venue Thursday night to Invesco Field, and the huge, open air Obama
> acceptance speech is ... one of the biggest and possibly craziest gambles of this or
> any other presidential campaign of the modern era" ellipses in original. She continued:
> "Everyone can define what can go wrong, and no one can quite define what 'great move'
> would look like. It has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally; it has too
> many variables to guarantee a good tv picture; the set, the Athenian columns, looks
> hokey; big crowds can get in the way of subtle oratory."

Yet another Right-Wing pundit who was wrong yet again.

Think she'll lose her job over her constantly, provably being
wrong? Nahhh, didn't think you did.

Tesha

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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:44 AM
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27. People like her are a poison to this country
God, I wish we had a real media.
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:40 AM
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29. Jesus these people are stupid. It looked like the White House
and about 85 billion other government buildings in the country. But yeah Peggy, the only obvious comparison is to The Hitlerz. Very insightful of you. :eyes:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:44 AM
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30. Godwin laughed
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 08:46 AM
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31. And Hitler called FDR a fascist.....
F**k Peggy Noonan....A liar, and dumb as a dumptruck of rocks. :dunce:


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