Ya know, I used to be a Malloy person! I remember how pissed

[napi21]

I was when they took his show off the sir i Atlanta! NOW, he's just a jerk. He's supporting voting for a THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE! Yea, that'll work! I'm really sorry to see Mike fo this way. I loved his anger and direct attacks against the Pubs. Now that seems to all be gone.

[bluestateguy]

1. We're not kowtowing to the crowd that gave us McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis

Becuase that's the type of candidate that it would take for the Mike Malloy's and Ralph Naders of the world to vote Democratic.

[coalition_unwilling]

60. Just out of curiosity, what is\was your

objection to McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis exactly? Or are you really just a DINO corporatist?

[bluestateguy]

65. Good men, but they are losers

And I like being in the Great American Majority better than losing on principle.

[GreenTea]

85. Man, your line is right out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth...I've heard him say it so many times.

Republicans use your exact same line..... Democrats " kowtowing to the crowd that gave us McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis"

Right, real progressives like FDR, Kennedy, "McGovern", Carter, "Mondale and Dukakis" ...can not be tolerated by moderate to right conservative "democrats'.

You only want fucking moderates, republican lite, that's all that's offered to us now...You make great republican talking points...they despise progressives & liberals and obviously so do you...

Do you even know the policy of these liberal democrats you condemn? Strong unions, tough environmental laws against corporate polluters, cutting massive military spending, no unnecessary wars for imperialism, womens rights, free health care for ALL, higher minimum wage, low cost higher education for ALL, workers safety, regulating corporations, peace, protecting our civil right's free speech, due process....

No we can't have any of that you say, we'll take fucking corporate moderates instead bought and paid for by the corporations.

Of course the republicans love moderate to right Democrats..

[galileoreloaded]

2. How dare he use his brain, and not, to use corporatespeak, "buy in" !!!!! n/t

Edit: i am drunk and can't spell corparate, corporate, fuck it, corp.. Is that right? I gotta puke.
I see you jesus, and I am coming.

[still_one]

11. He can do what he wants, but this is the last election if mccain wins /nt

[galileoreloaded]

15. You think thats air your breathing??? Bread and Circus.

[still_one]

23. If you think there isn't a difference between Obama/Biden verses mccain/?

then find someplace else to peddle your wares

The Supreme Court WILL change everything for the next 30 years

we have ginsberg and stevens most likely to step down

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

84. You sound like the perfect Nader voter.....

...or just screw it all and vote McSame.

[tridim]

3. I hear you. Haven't tuned in for a month.

And I've been a fan since the IE America days.

I think my blood pressure is way down. :)

I hope Mike gets his act together soon because I'd really like to hear what he has to say during a Democratic administration.

[napi21]

5. I agree with you. I used to really enjoy listening to him. Now I just tune into

another streaming radio show. How sad!

[LaPera]

54. You're missing some great progressive radio....Why would you ever want to tune out....

Close your ears and it doesn't exists? Simply cuz you don't agree, You must have a huge "ignore" file on DU opinions that don't exist...

Malloy is a progressive in the truest sense...he doesn't want to give you the shit....but if it's correct why won't you listen? Too hard, easier to go with the flow...hipper to your thinking what you've heard as truth is too painful to decipher...And...everyone else says it...you think Malloy wants to believe as he speaks or may it clearly just might be a reality?

No hiding heads in the sand.

[leftofthedial]

4. if people don't want to listen, no one is gonna stop 'em

(paraphrasing Yogi Berra)

[napi21]

6. I know that, but what upsets me is that he was one of the few and

popular LW radio hosts. I want Dem radio to succeed and I don't believe he's helping!!!!!

[leftofthedial]

14. Define "Dem"

[napi21]

18. For the American people instead of big business. Is that concise

enough for you?

[leftofthedial]

22. what does that have to do with the Democratic Party?

I can see that it precludes the Repuke Party, but what part of the current Democratic Party isn't about big business?

[napi21]

33. How about Pbama taking no money from pacs? Sow about

him supporting health care for all? How about talking to your enemies instead of killing them? I could go o, but I think you get the message.

[leftofthedial]

40. health care for all? Define "health care"

Obama's better than McCain.

So is my dog.

I deserve better.

We deserve better.

This country has fucked itself into a political corner and now we can't escape.

[napi21]

46. My dog costs me a LOT for his HC! We need to understand that

no HC care is free! My son lives in Italy, and the Dr's there and many countries in europe don't ioealize Dr's like we do. They are not paid like the Dr's in the States. They are every bit as good at their profession, but they sure don't make a couple of hundred thousand a year!

I've seen lots of people here on Du supporting Medicare for all. That's not a bad idea, but I don't think everyone understands what that really means.

I'm going to be 65 in Sept, and I've been checking all this very closely. Medicare is NOT free health care! My cost this year is $97 a month, and there are lots of deductibles too! To get real HE security where you won't be shocked by an unacceptable hugh ecpense, you have to buy Medicare supplememntal ins. The best
The only way I can see everyone getting real universal HC is if they accept higher taxes to support it. EVERY country that has it already does. Unfortunately, Americans have a complete aversion to TAXES! I'm not sure why, but until that changes, you will NEVER see universal HC!

[leftofthedial]

47. there is much that is grand about human civilization

or potentially so,


but we will never see most of it in this country.

[LaurenG]

58. We can't all have what we want all the time but I do think you'll be surprised

and happy at the changes that we'll see. Nothing is going to change quickly but we have two honest men and Biden can be a bulldog, I think they make a fine team.

[tabatha]

41. I wish Rachel Maddow would talk some sense to him.

I just heard her talking to someone who made no sense about why she would not be voting at all for President.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. You know I listen, and I realize where his anger is coming from

and it is justified...

Blue working class family here... and yes people are pissed at many levels.

That is a reality that leads many of us to conclude that the system does not work for quite a bit of Americans.

It pisses you off, listen to somebody else

[galileoreloaded]

9. Action comes from rejection of status quo.

Is he rejecting what he sees as status quo??? Getting kicked off tonight for sure!!

[orleans]

16. (did you throw up yet? how are you feeling?) n/t

[alarimer]

17. The system does not work.

We keep getting the same shitty corporate shill candidates. Enough is enough.

[still_one]

32. Bye /nt

[Dj13Francis]

8. Malloy is a purist, not a pragmatist.

Nothing Mike Malloy is saying is untrue. The Democratic Party does cowtow to its corporate overlords. In a perfect world we wouldn't have a populace too ignorant and apathetic to either see through the bullshit or do something about it. Ours is not a perfect world, and the best we can hope for with any chance currently is the Democratic nominee. I'd vote Green too if I thought they had a chance. They don't. So for God's sake - do what you can to let the Republicans win again! And appreciate Mike Malloy for the truth he delivers to us every night. I love the guy.

[Fumesucker]

12. So we get a corporate cowtowing Democrat..

For our efforts.

Color me unexcited.

[Dj13Francis]

19. Unexcited?

You can't possibly believe that this won't be an ENORMOUS improvement on the dismal "leadership" we've "enjoyed" over the past seven years... I'm excited as hell!

[Fumesucker]

24. Meet the new boss

Same as the old boss..

The corporations will still be running the show.

I was still naive enough to get excited in 2006.

I've had that burned out of me now.

[still_one]

26. You don't believe their is a difference between Obama and mccain? /nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Better for my pocket book, but after 2006

hard to get excited any longer

[Fumesucker]

36. I think the power behind the throne is ultimately the same.

Telecom immunity was the end of my love affair with Obama. There were two clear choices, vote for the real people who are real citizens or vote for the corporate "citizens".

Now Obama has chosen Biden, whose fingerprints are all over bankruptcy "reform", completely in favor of the large corporations.

You can listen to what the politicians say, I shall watch what they do.

[still_one]

43. and who will you vote for? /nt

[Fumesucker]

50. If enough people piss on my leg

And try to tell me it's raining..

I may not vote at all.

I got excited in 2006.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Won't get fooled again.

[lonestarnot]

55. I don't like piss on my feet either!

:pals: ;)

[still_one]

57. The Democrats will win without you /nt

[Dj13Francis]

30. I'm as cynical as the next guy -

I've had a front row seat and been intimately involved with the complete inablilty of this congress to do anything remotely progressive. There's no doubt that our leadership has failed us. Our Democratic leaders have failed us. Its up to you whether you look at this as the beginning of the turning of the tide, or that we're completely fucked either way. I prefer the former.

[Stardust]

10. .

[Breeze54]

13. How are those knee pads holding up?

Ready for 2009?

[orleans]

20. we stopped listening (as a household) after the vote for mccain

business two or three weeks ago. my mother was absolutely disgusted with that, whatever his reasons were.

[Systematic Chaos]

21. These threads are really starting to irritate me.

I know why Mike's saying what he is saying and I completely agree with him.

Obama is yet another major candidate who refuses to come off as a "liberal". He's sliding steadily to the right and it really depresses me.

And yet, just as Mike says, we're all going to vote for him anyway, out of FEAR.

It's bullshit, and it's pathetic. And Mike knows it and he's not afraid of the truth.

[Dj13Francis]

25. exactly.

testify.

[still_one]

27. The Supreme Court Under Obama will be much different than under mccain

and that alone is a reason to vote for Obama

[Systematic Chaos]

31. Oh, I'm not saying Obama is the Anti-Christ. Far from it.

I'm sure he'll do some good as President.

I just don't think he's going to go balls-to-the-wall and give this country the overhaul it desperately needs.

Couple that with the fact that he's going to inherit an economy in shambles and a senseless war for oil profits, and it will be interesting alright. It just won't be, to use Mike's words, what the "liberal core of the Democratic party really wants".

And, once again, we're going to settle for it out of FEAR. Because if we were to cast a vote for someone who's way left and off the M$M radar like McKinney, then ZOMG!1!11!1!!! that means that McShit-For-Brains is gonna win.

[still_one]

34. That may be, but like it or not this is the last chance we will have for a long time

if we don't take back the white house

[Systematic Chaos]

35. By "we tak[ing] back the White House"...

...do you mean Universal Health Coverage for all?

...do you mean an immediate and total withdrawal from Iraq?

...do you mean a shift in energy policy to embrace our best source of climate change gas-free energy, rather than more offshore drilling?

Because if you do, then it's not exactly us, the liberal core of the Democratic party, taking back anything. It's just another four years of the status quo, but with an occasional bone thrown our way here and there.

[still_one]

42. It isn't the status quo. A mccain supreme court will see to that /nt

[Greyhound]

67. I don't disagree with you, but I'm a little fuzzy this morning. Please remind what bones

we got from Clinton? Maybe "don't ask don't tell" qualifies as a small bone, but other than that the big republik giveaways are all I remember. (GATT, NAFTA, T-Con, welfare 'reform', H-1(b) & L-1 visas,etc.)

[hfojvt]

37. what choice do we have at this point?

My fifth party votes in 1992 and 1996 didn't do a heck of alot of good, but I certainly was aware at the time that I might be helping Bush or Dole to win (except that I heard Dole was gonna lose, so I figured it was safe).

The liberal core of the Democratic party cannot get what it wants until we can win some primaries.

I still am very happy that it's not Clinton again. So I think the glass is more than half full.

[tabatha]

44. Everybody is missing the basic message of Obama.

He wants to govern from the bottom up, and make government accountable.

That means that once he is in office, he will LISTEN to the populace.

He will not ignore them like the Republicans do.

We cannot expect perfection from someone who has to deal with the crap that goes into elections.

He is working very hard to try to turn this country around.

And he needs us to have his back.

Otherwise, it is all downhill. I would probably leave if McCain gets in.

It is difficult to understand that people can be so blinded by almost fundamentalist purity, and have no appreciation for the bigger picture.

[Pastiche423]

45. Obama did not listen to us wrt to FISA when he had the chance

to vote against it and make a difference.

What makes you think he'll change back to being "liberal"?

[lonestarnot]

49. And the BK bill and Biden and the bankers?

[Pastiche423]

56. I'd rather not talk about Biden, if you don't mind

I'm too weary to be flamed this morning.

[tabatha]

71. He is not president yet.

[Pastiche423]

72. Who said he was?

[tabatha]

80. That's not the point.

The point is that until he is president, he cannot do anything.

[Pastiche423]

82. He could have voted NAY on the FISA bill

in July, but he voted against his supporters interests. Over twenty three thousand of his supporters that began a group against the FISA bill were ignored by Obama.

This was no reason for him to vote for spying on Americans. None. Zero. Zip.

But he did.

[tabatha]

83. Possibly to get elected.

[Pastiche423]

86. Possibly does not cut it

when the privacy of all Americans is at stake. The only purpose for voting For the FISA bill, was to say fuck you to his primary base.

I send the same sentiment back to him.

[B Calm]

59. Makes me wonder why they are doing it. Are they that damn blind

they can't see the end of their nose, or do they have some sort of non truth agenda and post anti Malloy threads?

[Runcible Spoon]

69. I'm with you GG.

:hug:

[Chovexani]

74. A lot of people can't handle the truth

Sad to say. '06 woke me up, personally.

[MilesColtrane]

29. I don't listen to screaming people on the radio...

...regardless of their political orientation.

[ConsAreLiars]

38. Yeah. This asking people to think is just too fucking much!

He should know that True Democrats will never think about anything uncomfortable and will support whoever the Corporate Powers That Be choose for them.

Spying on everyone? Hell yes!

War on Russia? Damn Right!

Kill Chavez? Hip! Hip! Hooray!

Murder more Afghans? Way ahead of you, bro!

That thinking shit has no place on the radio. And complexity? Having mixed feelings instead of following a party line? NEVER!!! Burn him!!!!

[Tutonic]

39. He swam out too far. Six months ago he was ranting about the

Supreme Court--about how we had to get a Democrat elected to preserve our rights and now--he'd rather throw it all away.

[Fumesucker]

51. Now he has seen it is too late..

Actually it has been too late for a while now.

We are well and truly screwed, no matter who gets into office.

[LaPera]

48. I Love Mike Malloy! Sorry if you can't see his truth and logic!

No better political insightfulness & satire on the airwaves....the man is a natural....a shit disturber...if one doesn't think past the programmed & obvious picture than perhaps it's time to get a move on with robotic in-line thinking.

It doesn't have to be as the media romances and dictates to us.....Malloy is all about thinking for ourselves, not what's fed to us by the mainstream media....fellow "truthseekers"!

Wake Up!

[earth mom]

52. I feel exactly the same way! We need Mike! GO MIKE!

:applause:

[GreenTea]

53. Yes! We indeed need Malloy!!

As much as he may irritate some in the mainstream & the provincial - That's what he does best....Think!

And that's what we ALL need to do -Think- Cheers Malloy!

:toast:
:smoke: :rofl: :patriot: :loveya: :kick:

[blues90]

68. People are not willing to pull their heads out of their asses

Long enough to get air. Malloy tell's it like it really is. He is the only one who does. He is not telling people who to vote for he just puts the facts out there and you decide.

Seems there are a lot of people who have their fingers jambed in their ears like a child who dare not even consider what reality is let along even stop to question it. This is how we got bush and Iraq.

Their loss. And in doing so it relates to the loss of many.

He has been telling listeners for along time to look at their voting records and who their advisors are.

[alphafemale]

61. I still love Mike. I've been a fan since he was on in ATL. But...

this time I won't follow his advice.

[El Pinko]

62. You know, I used to give a shit.

I used to think I'd vote for a third party person because most of the democrats are such corporate-owned whores, and then I thought that Naderites were scum because they were helping the BFEE win.

At this point, I really don't give a flying fuck any more. This country (IE the idiot mainstream voter) is hell-bent on destroying itself and will not stop until it has done a thorough job.


So I focus on doing what I can to protect and provide for my own family and no longer wring my hands over this lost cause of a country.

I still go out and vote, and yeah, I'll even vote for Barry Sunshine and Hairplugs McCapitalOne, but I really DON'T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE.

[seabeyond]

63. i quit listening to all our dems mouth speaks when they went after kerry

for every damn little thing and a lot of made up outrages too

[DailyGrind51]

64. When Malloy was working for WLS in Chicago, I started out not

liking the guy, but when he continuously ignored Management's exhortations to stop talking about the mob-connected Duff family (personal friends of the Mayor and recipients of lucrative city contracts), he got fired, and I gained new respect for his integrity. Thanks to the prosecutorial team of Patrick Fitzgerald, Jimmy Duff, white of Irish extraction, is presently serving a 10 year prison sentence for fraudulently obtaining $100 million in minority set-aside contracts. Malloy was right!

[Puregonzo1188]

66. I'm curious, is Malloy supporting voting for any third party candidate or a specific one?

And your standards must be high for radio if someone must agree with you 100% of the time for you to listen to him. Why if I had those standards, I'd never be able to listen to radio or read DU or even leave my house.

[HughMoran]

70. I agree

...though you really should proof read and spellcheck - especially if it's going to be controvercial...

[EFerrari]

73. I don't need Mike to agree with me. I need Mike to be Mike.

:)

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

75. Tsk, tsk. Oh, my. Tsk, tsk.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." --John Quincy Adams

[GreenPartyVoter]

76. I look at it this way. Get Obama in and try to get him (and congress) to massively overhaul the

election system so that it is fairer towards smaller parties and independents and therefore more democratic, and then after that work to see that more progressives can get elected to federal offices. Here's a list of ideas to work on: http://www.hostdiva.com/liberalchristians/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=116&Itemid=29&limit=1&limitstart=1

If he doesn't work towards that (and I do understand he has a HUGE mess of all kinds on his hands to clean up), but if he doesn't work towards that and I find that overall I didn't care for his policies by the end of his term(s), I may be back to backing Greens for POTUS. (And it breaks my heart not to be doing so this time because I love Cynthia McKinney.)

[cseper]

77. Mike Malloy has

"jump the shark" years ago!

[roamer65]

78. Mike is absolutely right.

Nonetheless, I'll still go in and vote str8 ticket Dem just because of my ABSOLUTE HATRED of anything and everything Rethuglican.

I'm voting "Retribution" this November.

[LWolf]

79. I've never listened to him, so I can't say.

I appreciate someone having the guts to support a 3rd party candidate on the air, though.

Personally, I really dislike the lock the two-party system has on the nation. I wish that all the parties were viable. Since they are not, the best way to prevent 3rd party attrition is to nominate candidates, and get a platform, that works for those who you're losing.

The majority didn't choose to do so this time around. That's the thing about democracy; if we embrace it, we have to accept it when people's votes don't agree with ours.

[Arnold Judas Rimmer]

81. I'll bet some of the Malloy Bashers in this thread used to cheer on Al Franken's DLC blowfest on AAR

Invade Iraq? No problem. Cheer on the bombing of Lebanon? YEAH!! Have weekly visits from the goddamned American Enterprise Institute (neocon FUCK AMERICA tank) Hey, why not?

All of that was probably fine with you, but God forbid a man speak the truth.