I will be very disappointed if Obama's VP pick isn't either

[TheDebbieDee]

Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.

But I'm sure I'll grow to love the VP pick in time unless he or she is a repuke. Then all bets are off.

Please don't disappoint me Sen. Obama............

[cobalt1999]

1. Kaine

No more senator-senator tickets.

[bdamomma]

4. yea, I have heard senator-senator tickets are not the winning ticket.

[jobycom]

9. Not since 60, but that doesn't mean anything.

Every election is different, and every story is different. And Obama/Clinton would look a lot like Kennedy/Johnson, in some ways. Aggressive rivals united, and all that. And Biden has his own strengths that make him seem more than a senator.

[LiberalFighter]

10. I wonder who was even the last Senator/Senator ticket?

[SheilaT]

24. Kerry/Edwards.

But that was a very long time ago, and things are different now.

[LiberalFighter]

36. That's why they lost.

[lonestarnot]

42. Guess again!

[bdamomma]

2. let's not set ourselves up for a fall.

I am hoping it's Biden but you never know.

[movonne]

3. I will be very disapointed if it is not Biden...

[depakid]

5. Two business as usual Washington Insiders

perfect for a change oriented campaign!

[MercutioATC]

6. If he picks either of them, I'll be disappointed. Neither represents change.

I still have my fingers crossed for Schweitzer, but he's admittedly a longshot.

[TornadoTN]

23. I agree - it doesn't signify change

I'm a supporter and will still vote for Obama, but Biden isn't change. He isn't Dick Cheney, but is that the kind of change that is going to propel us to the White House? Doubtful.

I want an outside the beltway type - Schweitzer being my preferred pick as well. It also gives executive experience to the ticket which McCain will have if he picks Romney. Biden has a lot of negatives when it comes to the bankruptcy bill and his general friendly attitude towards McCain.

[Winterblues]

7. Yes either of those represent "Change we can Believe in"

:shrug:

[jvaljean]

8. I agree

I'm brand new here...as you can see...but I was trying to find a place to "comfort" me when we find out that the VP pick is not Clinton. I am a life-long Democrat (in my 40's!), but I have just not been able to become enthusiastic about Obama. Please do not bite my head off, but I did support Clinton, and was left bruised by the attacks from the Obama supporters during the primaries. I am torn between having another repug president and rewarding such awful behavior of a candidate supporters. So I'm really hoping for some good "sales pitches". I want more than anything to be on the band wagon of Obama, but at this point I probably won't even bother voting...which means that my husband and oldest son won't vote either, since they would never get their absentee ballot applications in if it wasn't for me! Please help! I need something to get excited about this race again!

[Laurab]

11. Welcome to DU but do you REALLY want to help McLame

if the VP choice isn't Hillary (because I doubt very much it will be)? Do you really think the country can afford to elect another repuke? That's pretty much what you're saying if you're not going to vote, and if you're not going to make sure your husband and son vote. That doesn't sound like a "life-long Democrat" to me.

You shouldn't need a sales pitch to know we can't afford another 4 years of the same or worse with McLame, but if you like the way things have been going, by all means don't vote and help the repukes win again so the country can be COMPLETELY destroyed.

[W_HAMILTON]

13. I don't think we can stand another Republican either

But at the same time, why would you not select Hillary? It's in everyone's best interests. Is Obama still upset over the primaries? Who cares? If he wants to guarantee a win, he should select Clinton. They can't tear her down anymore than they've already tried. She will unify the Democratic vote. She's experienced. What is the downside, other than it hurts Obama's ego to put her on the ticket after all the fighting in the primaries?

So, while I don't want another Republican in office, I also don't appreciate a candidate (or their supporters) that refuse to do what's best for the party, just for whatever personal reasons they may have. I have no doubt that Clinton would have selected Obama as her VP. It would have been the perfect pairing. Obama/Clinton might not be the perfect pairing, but it is still a lot better than the other options that have been talked about.

[TornadoTN]

26. Personally, I believe it should be someone outside of Washington

If we really want to get into the core of the matter, if the average American wants to believe in the "Change" ticket being delivered, the logical choice would be to go to a Governor. Someone who has executive leadership experience, can deliver a key state, be an attack dog and also appear to be above the Washington establishment.

I'll defer to Obama's judgment on this but I believe it may cost us a great deal if we go for another "same old - same old" type candidate. American's want someone they can get to know and a fresh face.

[stillcool]

27. Rehashing the primaries?

get over it. Obama is the nominee.

[W_HAMILTON]

29. I'm not the one that should get over it.

All the anti-Hillary people should get over it.

It's best for the party, and best for the nation.

"Get over" what happened in the primaries, and select what would be our strongest ticket, and the ticket that has the best chance to win.

[stillcool]

32. says who?

You and Pat Buchanan?

[W_HAMILTON]

33. The millions that voted for Hillary in the primaries?

The polls that show Hillary beating McCain by a larger margin than Obama currently is?

Need I go on?

Again, if you don't realize Hillary would add many more positives to this ticket than Biden, or Bayh, or whoever, you need to "get over it."

[stillcool]

35. many of those millions that voted for Hillary..

were very sorry they did, by the time the primaries were over. I'm sorry you can't get past your disappointment, and have a problem with Obama for whatever reasons you do. I have no intention of going over Hillary's disastrous campaign with you or anyone else. I have no problem with who Obama picks as I believe it is his choice. I have every intention of voting for the Democratic candidate this fall, but then, I always did, regardless of who it was.

[W_HAMILTON]

37. And apparently many are not

"very sorry" that they voted for her, considering there's a large group of Hillary supporters that say they will not support Obama in the presidential election.

Again, from your words, you sound like the person that needs to "get over it." I plan to vote for Obama either way, but I don't want to watch us lose yet another election because we make more dumb mistakes.

Not adding Hillary to the ticket would be another dumb mistake. It would be just as stupid if Hillary won the nomination, then shunned the millions of Obama supporters.

Like I said, Democrats apparently like to handicap themselves, so I guess it shouldn't be all that surprising when we inexplicably lose these elections.

[stillcool]

38. like we lost 2000 to the Supreme Court?

or how Kenneth Blackwell worked his magic in Ohio? I don't have to get over anything. I just have to do everything I can to get the Democratic Nominee elected. Have a nice day.

[Laurab]

39. "I" wouldn't select Hillary for many reasons.

The main one being that she would get out the repuke vote like no one else. I doubt very much Obama will choose her - unless for some reason he had no choice.

But it doesn't matter who I would select, and if Obama DID choose her, I'd guess he had his reasons, and of course would vote for the Dem ticket. I was questioning why the person wouldn't vote dem if Hillary wasn't selected - that's all. My personal choice would be Biden, but whomever he chooses, he's got my vote. This election is way too important to play around with my vote.

[TheDebbieDee]

41. That argument is SO tired. Stick a fork in it!

So we, as Democrats, are supposed to nominate candidates that the repukes will like? Is that it?

There would be something wrong with a Democratic candidate that was conservative enough for repukes to take a liking to.

[Laurab]

52. It may be "tired", but it's true.

I'm not saying we should nominate a candidate repukes will like - just that we shouldn't nominate someone who will get out the repuke vote like NO other. A lot of repukes don't care for McLame and may end up staying home, or even voting Dem. Hillary on the ticket changes that - she would galvanize repukes like no one else could. Do we want to nominate the best candidate to GOTV for the wrong party? I think not. The idea is to WIN the election.

I don't think Hillary did anything to deserve the way she's demonized by the right, but the fact is that she's as disliked by many as bush is on the left. He's earned it, she hasn't, but the fact is, it's true. I'd much rather have someone who won't get out the vote for the opposition party - this election is far too important to take that chance.

[mod mom]

19. As a mother I believe we have lost enough children, husbands fathers and mothers for the neocon

quest for oil profitability. This war was based on lies and McCain is dedicated to protesting the assets of their corporate cronies.

Here is a good post that shows how inbred McCain is with the criminal cabal ruling this country:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3833716

oops...welcome to DU :hi:

[W_HAMILTON]

12. I'll be disappointed if it's not Hillary

I don't get it. It would basically guarantee a win in November. Why not go with her?

I like Biden, but I don't know that I especially like him as the VP. He would be a good "attack dog" type, but he is also prone to gaffes. At the same time, when it comes to those gaffes, he seems pretty resilient.

I would actually be surprised if it's NOT Biden. I haven't heard him on TV in ages. He used to be on Hardball every night. I can't imagine that he would stay this quiet, unless something was up. Either he's been told he is the VP, or has been told he isn't; so, unless he's all over the TV tonight, acting like the Biden of old, I'll assume he's going to be the VP pick.

Even though it should be Hillary..........

[jeanpalmer]

47. W_, I agree

I've been an Obama supporter all the way, but Hillary is the only one who makes sense. She's head and shoulders above the plodders. Biden....yuck. Guy wasn't able to get 2% of the vote, for a reason. Hillary nearly won, probably would have won if she had gone negative earlier. She's got the necessary star quality. Why not pick her. I can't think of any reason. So Johnny Reb won't vote for her. Who cares? Those idiots are all voting McCain. Go after the woman vote. Hillary can do that.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. DLC neo-lib A or DLC neo-lib B? No thanks.

[frogmarch]

15. Same here. Hillary or Joe for me too. nt/

[gratuitous]

16. If chosen I will not run

If elected, I will not serve.

If inaugurated by acclamation, I'll think about it.

gratuitous for Vice President!

[TheDebbieDee]

17. I like your speech, Grat. You've won me over!

GRAT FOR VP! Grat for VP!

[gratuitous]

30. All right!

299,999,999 to go. My plan is coming to fruition.

Heh, heh, heh.

Whoops! Ignore that.

[fascisthunter]

18. no more DLC Dead Weight

they have done enough damage....

[mitchtv]

21. You may be right,but I have a short list too

of dealbreakers, homophobes, like Nunn and Kaine. I consider them worose than DLC, tho I;m sure Nunn is both.homphobe, and DLC

[fascisthunter]

55. good... I'll put them on my list too

we don't anybody regardless of who they affiliate themselves with channeling that type of hatred in our party.

[aikoaiko]

20. I dont understand all this love for Biden, Did he every get 10% in the primaries?

[Carolina]

45. no he's a loser

MBNA,IWR, lots of Sunday morning bloviating, consummate Washington insider...

But some here think he's change we can believe in :shrug:

[LibDemAlways]

51. I'm with you. Extremely disappointing.

Biden brings nothing to the table except a lot of hot air, a penchant for verbal gaffes, and a couple of unforgivably bad votes. This is the best we can do?

[TahitiNut]

22. Well, I hope you're disappointed. (Nothing personal, of course.)

Even more, I hope it's not Bayh.

[AlCzervik]

25. i hope it's Russ Feingold.

[Hubert Flottz]

28. I hope it's...

Barbara Boxer or Russ Feingold.

[Pastiche423]

31. Now you're talking!

[LaPera]

34. It won't be a woman...It will absolutely be a respected white Dem dude...without a fucking doubt!

He's got to off set that bigoted, racist, women are second class citizens, anti-feminist McCain & republican mentality that is predominant among middle America, moderate fucking voters and fence-sitters as well as some independents (and some Dems)!

[NeedleCast]

40. DU Needs a Forum for Gnashing and Wailing

So that when Obama makes his pick, all the people who support someone who doesn't get it can there.

[Individualist]

43. No DLC VP!

[Carolina]

44. YUCK --- two who voted for IWR

quite contrary Obama's message that the war SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED!

Plus two who will change the way Washington works? NOT!

[jeanpalmer]

46. Hillary has a lot to offer

One thing I like about her is she's a street fighter. Will do what's necessary to win. If they kick her in the crotch, she'll pull a knife on 'em. I didn't like her in the primaries, but she is an obvious choice as VP. Would unite the party, knows how to campaign, has the name, can connect with women. I think the abortion issue will be big with a lot of women and Hillary would be the perfect person to make the case. Let's face it, If McCain wins, the right to choose will be history.

I just read where a lot of Hillary supporters still haven't bought into Obama. He's got to bring them all in or he's toast imo. Selecting Hillary as VP would do the job. It would be a real slap in the face not to pick her.

Also, I like the idea of Bill Clinton campaigning hard for the ticket. He is a good campaigner, you want him on board. He also knows how to campaign dirty, while seeming nice.

I think the Clintons give Obama a chance to win Florida. Very important.

If he makes any other choice, he's not helping himself at all.

[NeedleCast]

49. Yes, lots of negatives

Will do what's necessary to win

I know, I watched the primaries where we saw her say that she and McCain have the experience to be in the White House and Obama doesn't.

[jeanpalmer]

50. Well, I wasn't big fan of hers either

But it's time to win. Here are comments typical of ones I've seen in a lot of places in response to her not being selected: "Well, if that's true, the entire election is over for me. I either won't vote or will write her in." "Well thats it for me..I am abstaining from this election!!!" "That OK Hillary. We love you and we will be behind you in 2012. I for one will not vote for Obama for any reason and will proudly cross over to Republican and vote MCCAIN!!!!"

Those were 3 women Hillary supporters. He's going to lose a lot of them if he doesn't pick her. And he doesn't have many votes he can afford to lose.

I can't blame these people. She got nearly half the vote. Not offering her will be a slap in the face to her and her supporters. A gratuitous slap. So yea, if Obama wants to go with someone else, suffer the consequences.

[TexasObserver]

48. Joe Biden

[leftofthedial]

53. Condi Rice for VP!!!!

[Truth4Justice]

54. As long as the VP nominee isnt a DINO I'll be happy.