CNN has jumped off the deep end with today's quick poll

[MiniMe]

I won't tell anybody to go there, because there are olympics spoilers on the front page. But here is today's question:

Should corporal punishment be banned in schools?
Yes 44% 71190
No 56% 92239
Total Votes: 163429


Are you freaking kidding me? People that corporal punishment belongs in schools? These are probably the same people that went through the "self esteem" thing where nobody failed because it would be bad for their self esteem. Sorry, I'm old fashioned. Kids need to learn how to fail as well as how to succeed, its part of being a kid. And no teacher should be laying a hand on my kid, unless its a nun in a catholic school.

I'd love to hear others opinions on this.

[slackmaster]

1. A poll in which subjects select themselves has no validity

I'd love to hear others opinions on this.

I think you should calm down and stop taking this shit seriously.

[MiniMe]

12. I posted what CNN had on their poll and what the results were

I don't think that an adult should use corporal punishment on kids. For a parent to discipline a child, I don't really have a problem, as long as the child is not abused. Lets face it, inevitable somebody will go to far, its the way of the world. But I don't think a teacher should hand out physical punishment. It just bothers me that almost 60% of the respondents think that corporal punishments of kids by schools is OK. I have my opinion, I wanted to hear what others think.

[slackmaster]

14. The percentage of respondents is meaningless

It has no relation to the percentage of real people in the real world who would answer the question that way.

That's all I am saying.

I agree with you that schools should not be permitted to practice corporal punishment. It was outlawed here in California in 1963.

[DJ13]

2. Did corporal punishment damage all the past generations?

Or did they learn respect?

Its too easy to say its wrong, but the schools have become violent without it, so whats the answer?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Actually, youth violence is way down.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[DJ13]

4. Not compared to when I went to school

You know where you can put that pipe.

[endthewar]

7. Please wash these pipes before using them again

:rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. When did you go to school?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. It damaged enough of them.

You don't teach that violence is wrong by using violence. All that does is reinforce the message of Might Makes Right.

[sandnsea]

16. More guns and violence, absolutely n/t

[endthewar]

6. What about Catholic school?

That's what most people think about when they hear corporal punishment in schools. Some nun with a ruler is the image in my mind and I've never been to Catholic school. That's the image portrayed on TV. I would vote 'no' in that poll because I don't think it's my business telling parents that they shouldn't send their kids to Catholic school if that's what they want to do.

Obviously corporal punishment is pretty much barred in public schools. Else the teacher runs the risk of a parent suing the entire school board.

[sandnsea]

8. A nun in a Catholic School??

:crazy:

And why in the world would you think people who support corporal punishment are the same people who are concerned about their children's self esteem, which has absolutely nothing to do with protecting a child from failure, by the way.

:crazy:

[MiniMe]

11. Never went to a catholic school

But heard from friends about the nuns with the rulers. Totally a separate issue than the self esteem thing. The self esteem thing that I was talking about is that parents have gone with the thought for a while that "Johnny can't fail at anything or it will damage his self esteem". Learning that you don't always get your way, or that failing at something is not the worst thing in the world, as long as you tried and you learned from it can be a good thing. How do kids who never learned that it is OK not to win on occasion do with not getting a job they really want? Or to learn that somebody wins and somebody loses when they are playing games?

As for the corporal punishment, I probably shouldn't have used catholic school, it is just what I think of when I think of private school. I guess its my age. I guess my way of thinking is that if you send your child to a private school, and they have a policy of using corporal punishment, you should know it in advance and then it is the parent's choice as to whether they send their child to that school. In public school, a lot of parents can't afford to send their kids to private school, and their only choice is public school.

I just don't like the idea that adults phsically punish a child. Like anything else in life, some of the teachers will carry it way too far.

[sandnsea]

15. Just as some will cary verbal lashings too far

which is exactly what protecting a child's self esteem was about, whether you ever understood it or not. The affects of physical punishment is a lower self esteem. It all goes together.

[valerief]

10. Velcome to de TortureVolrd. Age is no impediment. nt

[2KS2KHonda]

13. There's nothing wrong with a swat on the ass of a troublemaker.

I encourage it.

[onethatcares]

17. I went to Catholic school and got hit with the ruler alot.

something about not holding my pencil in the proper alignment to do the Palmer Penmanship Method of drawing "O"s and "S"s. Never did change my pencil holding.


As far as a swat on the ass of a troublemaker, if that don't work, let's bring out the slight tap with a mace, or maybe a kick in the nuts for guys and a board across the breasts for a girl. We'll keep steppin it up until they (the trouble makers) realize we mean business, then we'll tell them not to hit thier siblings or neighbors because it's wrong. Hey, when things get really bad, we can issue tasers to the nuns, they'll know when to use them based on the instructions they get from law enforcement, Waddayathink?

[fla nocount]

19. Rulers were for the little kids, lead shot in the end of sashes....

delivered to the back of the head of the unsuspecting as you got bigger than them. It didn't really do any damage, just shock and awe from the hand of God.

[romulusnr]

18. hell, i went through 13 years of catholic school

and no nun laid a finger on anyone while I was there. So they don't even do that anymore.

What, today's lazy parents are so lazy they even want teachers to spank their kids *for* them? srsly.

Most of the time I bet you these parents are thinking about someone else's kids. I'm sure if the same people were asked "should teachers be allowed to hit YOUR kid" they'd vote A BIT DIFFERENTLY...

[MiniMe]

21. Good point

[Bluebear]

20. Spare the rod and spoil the child, you know.

:eyes: