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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:59 PM
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McClellan says: "Don't investigate us."
It would be "devisive".

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/McClellan_to_Obama_Dont_investigate_us.html

via:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/20/9501/04681/1019/570545

(snip)

When asked what advice he would give to a President Barack Obama or Democratic Congress on the matter of handling former Bush officials, McClellan speaks now of the perils of probing the past.

“If Obama were to win,” he said last week, “that would be an issue his administration would have to face early ... because he’s pledging to be a uniter, not a divider — without saying those exact words we campaigned on in 2000. He’s pledging to change the way Washington works, and if Congress were to pursue that, it would be very divisive.”

He continued: “That could be very problematic for his presidency right off the start.”

(end snip)

Au contraire, I can't think of any more unifying activity than to investigate the many bush-gates that have arisen over the last 8 years, unifying the 77% of Americans who don't approve of the little chimp.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:01 PM
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1. You don't have to worry Scott ...
Reid and Pelosi won't allow investigations now, so why would they allow them then.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:03 PM
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2. It wouldn't be divisive, it would be healing
If we don't heal the wounds will only fester and get worse.

"They" must have gotten to McClellan for him to say something so stupid.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:05 PM
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3. No it would not be divisive. We all need our constitutional rights restored. /nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:06 PM
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4. And one of those changes would be to hold those accountable for their crimes
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:10 PM
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5. All we have to do is play Hannity's theme song back to them ...




" ... MAKE THE GUILTY PAY"


:rofl: :rofl:




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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:15 PM
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6. LOL, we already know what its like to have a "uniter not a divider" for president

we need to make it clear that we will not tolerate the slightest hint of fascism in our government.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:18 PM
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7. If Obama doesn't investigate, then he is complicit in their crimes
and is deserving of being investigated and impeached.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:33 PM
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9. Obama should be Impeached?
..already?
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:18 PM
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17. If complicit in allowing criminals to excape justice, YES.
There will be a reckoning.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:08 PM
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19. don't you think...
Bush will pardon all the players before he leaves office? And what would you expect the next President to do? I suppose he could appoint a commission, but we know how those work.
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Bob Dobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:39 AM
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28. I expect the next president to have integrity wrt The Constitution and The Law
Partisan expediency got us into this horrible mess.

It's time the American President started doing things because they are the right thing to do.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 02:35 PM
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29. Do you know what it is..
a President can do as far as prosecutions? I don't think there has ever been a Commission or Investigation that didn't cover up more than it revealed. I hope that something will be done, but I have no faith in the U.S. Government's ability to investigate itself. I think if any justice is to come it will be from outside the U.S. But I'm sure if Obama gets elected impeachment hearings will be forthcoming.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 01:18 PM
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8. Scott's in a bad position. He's between the devil and the deep blue sea.
UNLESS he's granted immunity. Bush sure wouldn't do more than laugh at Scotty's plight.

I'll tell you how important investigations/convictions of this cabal are to me. I know I don't have a whole lot of years to go, but I'd go a happy woman to know I left behind a safer world for my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I have felt so guilty that we let them get by with this crap and that we are STILL letting them get by with it.

The majority of Americans and the majority of the WORLD would applaud seeing this administration brought to justice.

There must be justice!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:54 PM
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10. This whine will only get louder in the coming months
And, by the way, actually investigating, prosecuting and sending the guilty to prison would be a BIG change in the way Washington works.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:59 PM
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11. It was not following through against Nixon, and then not following through
against the Reagan administration in Iran-Contra that made it possible for our Country to slide so far away from the Republic it professes to strive for...

Healing this Country is going to take some strong medicine, and a thorough investigation, complete with trials and sentences is the BEST prescription.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:56 PM
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12. "He’s pledging to change the way Washington works..."
And arresting and prosecuting those who've broken the law--Rove, Cheney, Bush, et al.--would be doing exactly that. It's beyond time to hold these traitorous bastards accountable, imo.
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mtf80123 Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:29 PM
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13. Funniest part about this is...
"He’s pledging to change the way Washington works, and if Congress were to pursue that, it would be very divisive.”

You betcha Scotty!!! We WANT to change the way Washington works! Idiot!

The American people are about ready to abort your party in to oblivion.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:31 PM
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14. Wait a minute, changing the way it works...
Doesn't that mean there will finally be an actual investigation?

:shrug:

-Hoot
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:32 PM
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15. What is 'devisive' about bringing criminals to justice?
rhetorical question
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:36 PM
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16. Like hell divisive!
What's going to prove divisive is when the Obama Admin gets blamed for the failures of Bu$h. Which, IMO, is one very good reason why he needs to investigate and get as much of the wrong doing into the public eye from the get go.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:21 PM
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18. Scott don't want to go to jail with the rest of the gangsters.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:18 PM
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20. Fine...as long as everybody in America gets a pass on all crimes they commit
Empty the jails and prisons while you're at it. Let them all go free.

That way when some politician talks about how no one is above the law we can all share in the joke.

It's not that I want to be above the law...I just want to be safely outside the law...just like my government.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 11:01 PM
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26. I hear ya!
This is where my mind goes everytime that I realize that these criminals are probably gonna get away with their crimes. :hi:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:54 PM
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21. He forgot to say "please"
Asswipe. I hope they throw them all in jail.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 08:07 PM
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22. Divisive how, exactly?
1.The Bush administration or GOP members do wrong.

2. The evidence comes out.

3. Charges are laid. People go to jail.

It's really quite simple.

If they have a problem, they can provide their input in step 2.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 08:09 PM
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23. 'because he’s pledging to be a uniter, not a divider' - OMG that's rich!
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 08:22 PM
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24. yeah, cuz impeaching clinton wasn't divisive
gotta love that republican hypocrisy.
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 10:51 PM
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25. I can smell the fear of the Republican monsters in office...
... fear that they will have to pay for their crimes. It may be schadenfreude, but that fear smells good.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 11:06 PM
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27. Remember Rudolf Hess? He parachuted into Scotland and tried to negotiate an end to WWII
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 11:24 PM by Bozita
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess

Rudolf Hess
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Swiss Nobel laureate, see Walter Rudolf Hess.
Rudolf Hess


„Stellvertreter des Führers“
Deputy to Adolf Hitler
In office
21 April 1933 – May 1941
Preceded by none
Succeeded by Martin Bormann
Lieutenant Karl Gerland
Lieutenant Martin Bormann
Born April 26, 1894
Alexandria, Egypt, Ottoman Empire
Died August 17, 1987 (aged 93)
Berlin, West Germany
Nationality German
Political party National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) (Since 1920)
Spouse Ilse Pröhl (22 June 1900 - 07 September 1995) married 20 December 1927
Children Wolf Rüdiger Hess (18 November 1937 - 14 October 2001).
Alma mater University of Munich
Profession Reichsminister
German spelling is Heß

Rudolf Walter Richard Hess (Heß in German) (April 26, 1894 – August 17, 1987) was a prominent figure in Nazi Germany, acting as Adolf Hitler's deputy in the Nazi Party. On the eve of war with the Soviet Union, he flew solo to Scotland in an attempt to negotiate peace with the United Kingdom, but instead was arrested. He was tried at Nuremberg and sentenced to life in prison at Spandau Prison, where he remained until his death in 1987 as a result of strangulation by an electrical cord. The official cause of death was recorded as suicide.

Hess's attempt to negotiate peace and subsequent lifelong imprisonment have given rise to many theories about his motivation for flying to Scotland, and conspiracy theories about why he remained imprisoned alone at Spandau, long after all other convicts had been released. On September 27 and September 28, 2007, numerous British news services published descriptions of conflict between his Western and Soviet captors over his treatment and how the Soviet captors were steadfast in denying repeated entreaties for his release on humanitarian grounds during his last years.<1><2><3>

Hess has become a figure of veneration among neo-Nazis.<4><5><6>

more...

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