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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:13 PM
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I see hints here and there of Clark for VP!
I think Clark would be great! Personality and extras that would be quite favorable! Does anyone have any solid info? Or any kind of solid gossip?
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:17 PM
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1. no vacated senator seats either...i agree....n/t....
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:19 PM
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2. Nope, but it wouldn't break my heart. I'm just sorry for all the lost trees (huh?)
I've seen more "confirmations" and denials in the last day than in the past year.
I think Wes would be fine, but I've seen just as many "no way" stories about him
as I've seen about all the rest of them.

What was that about the trees, you all ask? Oh, just that the Republicans have had to
print up half a million copies of next week's #1 NYT bestseller bashing Obama's VP
candidate, and since they have no clue who it is, they have had to print up half a
million copies of 10 different books full of lies, 90% of which they will have to
offer up for paper recycling in about 10 days.

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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:22 PM
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3. Another thread today has Biden saying he's not the guy.
Others point to Mark Warner speaking at the convention to mean Kaine and Webb are unlikely.

Sebelius and Bayh are about as exciting as moistened toast.
:hide:

But Clark has it all. Foreign policy experience, military experience that trumps McCain's, gravitas, intelligence, you name it. He was against the war until he saw Bush couldn't be dissuaded, then he lobbied for more troops so we at least wouldn't have a bloodbath.

The only downside I see is the statement about McCain...but he was right. Blunt, but right.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:26 PM
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4. Sebelius and Bayh are about as exciting as moistened toast.
I think you need to apologize to that toast.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:30 PM
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9. bayh looks like he's on an eternal quaalude
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:01 PM
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14. Seconded
at least moist toast evinces some emotion, eg. "Who the HELL got my toast wet?!?"
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:28 PM
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7. ROTFLMAO
"as exciting as moistened toast."

:rofl:
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:27 PM
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5. I Hope You are Right!
Clark would be an outstanding selection!
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:27 PM
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6. He would be my choice.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:29 PM
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8. I think that would be a brilliant move. nt
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:36 PM
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10. wow, I hope so.
As I see it Clark was actually someone in the armed service...not just a guy who got shot down over Vietnam. And I like how Clark pounds that point home. Once more I think Americans would be willing to get behind this guy... I know I am.

Plus: It would be harder to assassinate his character. Neo-Cons would still try, but it might be a hard mountain to climb!
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:58 PM
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13. Wes Clark took four bullets in Vietnam
If he were to say "bring them on," it would carry some true meaning, but
he won't say it, because he's not a crude Republican chickenhawk looking
to send others to do his fighting. He would fight when he had to, not because
he's had one beer too many and is looking for a brawl.
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:09 PM
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16. Compare Clark's military record with McCain's and McCain looks like the assclown he is
From Clark's Wiki page:

Wesley Kanne Clark, KBE (born December 23, 1944) is a retired General of the United States Army. Clark was valedictorian of his class at West Point, was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford where he obtained a degree in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics (Philosophy, Politics & Economics), and later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a master's degree in military science. He spent 34 years in the Army and the Department of Defense, receiving many military decorations, several honorary knighthoods, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.


Vietnam
Clark's Silver Star citation

Clark was assigned a position in the 1st Infantry Division and flew to Vietnam on May 21, 1969 during the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He worked as a staff officer, collecting data and helping in operations planning, and was awarded the Bronze Star for his work with the staff. Clark was then given command of A Company, 1st Battalion, 16th Infantry of the 1st Infantry Division in January 1970. In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter.


In contrast, McCain was such a poor student and liked to party so much he barely made it out of the Naval Academy. He graduated very near the bottom of his class, fifth from the bottom, IIRC. His main claim to fame is being shot down and captured by the North Vietnamese and held in the "Hanoi Hilton" where he received special treatment because his daddy was a four-star admiral and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Pacific Command for four years during the Vietnam War -- and he colluded with the enemy.

If the Republicans try to swift boat Clark they are in for a world of hurt. I hope Obama chooses him. He is brilliant, and he is a tried and true leader with impeccable, unassailable credentials.
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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:27 AM
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17. Wow! Thats good to know.
I would have preferred it if he would have been the nominee in 2004. At that time his experiences could have trumped anything the neo-con machine claimed about supposed democrat "weakness" on foreign matters, even though Kerry was a hero himself. I sometimes wonder why Kerry is not president and then I face the fact that the past two national elections have been stolen. If thats the truth then what is keeping the puppet masters from stealing this one? Well, I guess thats just the pessimist in me.

Oh, and I heard that McCain failed to act on the missile warning in his A-4, which lead to his being shot down. I don't know how this can be backed up considering that the North Vietnamese wouldn't have been to concerned with the black box recordings.

Yeah, thanks for the Info. :hi:
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:45 PM
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11. Would be about as good as Biden from a foriegn policy stance.
And hes a good guy, that doesnt shy away from speaking his mind. He already has spoken out against McCain, so he can play a good attack dog.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:52 PM
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12. Clark has everything Biden has plus we don't lose a senator
Clark is perfect because 1) he is the most progressive of those available and 2) he can't be painted as a weak-kneed (fill in the blank) liberal by the zomby media or the repukes
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:53 PM
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20. Good point.
We need every senator we can get. Though we shouldnt have a problem keeping majority.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:08 PM
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15. I still am going with Wes Clark.

even tho he said he was going to be "out of the country" or something, I have a gut feeling he's the one.

at this point tho, I'd take even Hillary, now there's a pit bull we can believe in.

gaaack, did I really say that??

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:50 AM
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18. That would sure give me greater confidence in Obama's smarts and
his progressive intentions. Clark is is seen by the RW DUers and the middle-AmeriKKKa info-challenged as someone they are comfortable with, yet he is totally comfortable expressing progressive ideals in the language of middle America, but still having the courage and honesty to do a cover photo and long interview for The Advocate.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:09 AM
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19. Wont they swift boat him?
The media led by FAUX and CNN will bring on every wacko guest they can to discredit the guy, this election is going to be ugly.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 06:43 PM
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22. Umm, they will swiftboat ANYone.
Doesn't matter who.

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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 06:41 PM
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21. Perfect.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 06:45 PM
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23. Clark said McCain's being a POW doesn't qualify him to be President.
He got a lot of flack for saying it. Undeservedly I might add. Clark was right.

Seems like Obama distanced himself from that remark.

I still think Clark is the best pick.

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