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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:17 AM
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I'm Not a Molester, You're a Jesus Hater


Scott Snyder, 34, the Pastor of New Beginnings Bible Fellowship Church in York, PA, was charged last week by the Pennsylvania State Police with two counts of corruption of minors.

According to the York Daily Record Snyder admitted to "sending inappropriate text messages and photos of himself to a 14-year-old girl's cell phone. He also admitted to police that he kissed a 13-year-old girl on the lips in a church van, charging documents state."

Snyder doesn't see the charges as an attack on him, but an example of the hatred the media has for the Lord Jesus Christ. In an email response Snyder whined,


It is a sad day once again as we see the corruption of this world and the media. I have spent the last 7 days with our military soldiers and hear from them also of the lack of truth presented by the media. So much false information has been broadcasted and televised concerning charges and accusations against me. Things have been said that I have never said and accusations made that are simply not true. While this has been a direct attack on myself I believe it has really been a direct attack against the truth that I preach and stand for. This world hates Jesus Christ and any servant of His and is seeking to destroy the truth of God's Word. Once again we have seen the corruption of our media and its worldly sources. This country did have a motto that a person was innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Unfortunately you are now guilty before the evidence is even presented. You are destroyed before the truth is known. This is a case that shows the horrible condition of our country and the open hatred toward our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and those men of God who still stand preaching the salvation of Jesus Christ. I cannot change how you feel about all the false information presented and reported about me, but I can say once again it is false, and that this will not stop me from continuing to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ.
(my emphases)


Jesus called. He said, "Don't help."

http://www.jesus21.com/htdocs/weblog.php?id=P1031
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:20 AM
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1. Bush will be using him soon for those faith-based programs
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:22 AM
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2. Jesus needs to disassociate himself from this guy ...
oh, wait ... Jesus appeared to the fallen, not those who were solid in their faith ... remember, the prostitutes, etc. ...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:27 AM
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3. Many people need to learn the difference between "the Holy Spirit" and a buzz from
their own hormones.

Because that's what a lot of folks like this guy, and like Rick Warren, are selling.

No, the biological facts don's always manifest as sex, but the mechanisms are the same: Continuously Reinforcing stimulus response patterns and associating them with related stimuli/symbols, until you've got an addict who will give you all kinds of money and can and WILL justify A - N - Y - T - H - I - N - G, including the murder of 100s of thousands of INNOCENT Iraqis in the name of their Religion.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:26 AM
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12. That's a really good point.
I've seen that firsthand. Good point.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:36 AM
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14. Everything begins and ends with our biology. Too many people think that means next to nothing.
Too many people think the body is something bad to be overcome, when in fact it IS what we are and all of our "truths" are relative to what we are.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:30 AM
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15. I hadn't thought of it like that.
But you're very right. Revivals produce a very real high, and I knew many evangelicals who just didn't do well without that high.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:22 PM
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22. Revivals and Altered States
The speech cadence used by evangelists can induce an altered state of consciousness quite easily.

If you ever hear a preacher -lets say Jesse Jackson because most of us here are familiar with him and the different voices he uses- notice when they fall into that "preacher cadence". It's a very discernible pattern. Louder and quiet, harsh then soft, building and falling in pitch and volume.

If you use that sort of pattern you can easily alter someone's consciousness. But that merely makes the willing more suggestible. For the unwilling, it might calm them or alter their consciousness, but might not allow the suggestions being made to access the subconscious or unconscious mind -which is ultimately what one is after.

When one thinks of hypnotism, we envision a droning monosyllabic speech. But that doesn't work nearly as well as the cadence described above.

In trance induction, as practiced by aboriginal peoples around the world, sonic driving is the term used to describe drums, rattles, chanting, bells, tones and so on. But also includes sounds like: waterfalls, white noise, ocean waves, wind in trees.

And that leads us to the point where the fundies are actually onto something: rock music. Perfect example of sonic driving leading to suggestible states. So for some people, rock music does implant ideas. For others it doesn't. Just as the "preacher cadence" of revivals doesn't make us all roll over and become born agains.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:22 PM
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24. I've heard my fair share of preachers, and you're right on the cadence.
Required chapel three times a week at college made us listen to a whole lot of preachers. We also found that they have a set pattern in their organization of topics and always use personal stories to play on the parishioners' empathy and emotional reactions.

They start with humor almost always, often with a cute story. Then, they do the first Bible reading and explain it. Then, they slow down a bit, tell another story that tweaks the heartstrings a bit more. After that comes the second Bible reading and more explanation. Some preachers at this point speed up, as that's their strongest point, but many continue slowing down bit by bit and throw in another story here, one that's fairly emotional. Our college chaplain would always cry here. If they were feeling especially in control of the audience, they'd start their exhortation here, too, but most would go on to the third Bible reading and explication, throwing everything they had at it (pleading, crying, shouting, jumping, etc.). All explication would stop at this point, as the preacher would just bash the point over and over until everyone either starts feeling some sort of high or massive guilt (usually the guilt) and would start reacting to it. A couple of altar songs with people crying would often seal it as a powerful service, and it often would extend as people tried to hang onto that high for as long as they could.

After a few years, it got seriously old, and we all started betting on when the preacher would start crying. I get really creeped out by that style now.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:04 PM
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19. People also get hung up on the labels that are pasted on all of that.
Mistaking whatever it is that someone is referring to when they use a word such as "God" for somekind of objectfiable phenomenon, when it's the phenomenal universe and our interaction with it that is the real thing and the words are a completely mutable emergent property of the basic facts, like bubbles riding a wave.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:29 AM
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4. I'm sure Jesus would back me up on my pedophelia, JESUS, some people.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:34 AM
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5. He's saying "if you're against me, you're against Jesus.." Really, really f*cked up.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:54 AM
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8. Geez, that sounds like something Bush would say!
I think McCain should use it as a campaign slogan. Maybe he could win back some of those looney-religious-right lemmings.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:38 AM
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6. Lie down and take your Jesus.
I wanna jesus you so much. I'm gonna Jesus all over you.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:40 AM
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7. New Beginnings Bible Fellowship Church soon to open a new branch in a PA state prison.
he'll have his soul-saving duties cut out for him.
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:57 AM
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9. Cases like this prove to me jesus never existed because if he
did and really was the son of an all-powerful god, he'd come back to earth just to smite this dill weed in the ass.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:18 AM
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11. Or if there was an all-powerful God, a lightning bolt would be headed
his way, just like in the cartoonies.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:00 AM
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10. messianic complex much? nt
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:28 AM
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13. "I cannot change how you feel about all the false information..."
"... presented and reported about me, but I can say once again it is false, and that this will not stop me from continuing to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ."

That is a quote from a guy who "admitted to sending inappropriate text messages and photos of himself to a 14-year-old girl" and "kiss(ing)a 13-year-old girl on the lips in a church van."

So...he provided the false information?

:shrug:

What a dumbass.

:eyes:

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:59 AM
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16. What a dick.
Guy just like this shot my cat.

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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:03 AM
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17. Ew, he's hiding behind Jesus AND our "military soldiers"
Anything else this creep want to shield himself with?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:06 PM
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20. As opposed to our "non-military soldiers"?
Geez, this guy is just beyond pathetic. Whiny, self-righteous AND a wannabee child molester.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:35 PM
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25. You know it just struck me why he used that phrase
I thought it was silly too, but I bet he's the type that sees himself as a "soldier" too, so he has to specify when he's talking about a soldier of God or a "military soldier".
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:05 AM
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18. Sign this guy up for a Republican PR firm stat.
He hit every obfuscatory talking point. "Whaa It ain't me it's you! Whaaa!"
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:07 PM
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21. Projection
He's projecting his own rejection of Christ's message onto others.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 01:22 PM
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23. To paraphrase Bush
You're either for me and Jesus or you're against me and Jesus. Bring it on!
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