Looks like the Hummer is History

[liberaltrucker]

Despite how badly GM wants to dump the Hummer, a looming global recession (and of course high oil prices) may be putting the kibosh on that plan.

General Motors (GM) had been in preliminary talks with automakers across Asia (including those in India and Russia) regarding the sale of its Hummer division. But now Chinese SUV maker Hunan Changfeng has broken off talks with GM and no longer has any interest in purchasing the gas-guzzler. Their remarks do not bode well for GM

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http://www.clusterstock.com/2008/8/now-even-china-doesn-t-want-gm-s-hummer?Hummer

GM dealers won't accept them for trade. Owners (read: debtors) can't give them away.
Saw an 05 H2 recently in the owners yard with a sign on the windshield:

For Sale. 05. Low mileage (duh). $8,000 OBO. I'd bet the dude dropped as least $40K
on the original purchase. Sympathy? No way in hell.

:rofl:

[WCGreen]

1. What, no more Blow Jobs....

[liberaltrucker]

3. Not THAT Hummer!

Leave it to you for comic relief.

:pals:

[eridani]

8. Why don't you just get your mind out of the gutter--

--and bring it down into the sewer with the rest of us? :)

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Well, if that guy with the $8000 Hummer cuts the roof off of it...

And fills it with dirt, and makes it snappy, he can plant some fall flowers and decorative kale in it.

[countmyvote4real]

5. Nobody but you, TS. You always make so much sense.

Made me laugh.

[liberaltrucker]

6. Sign did say OBO

I'd bet I could snag it for $4K. If I were willing.

But your suggestion is more rational.

[DAMANgoldberg]

26. better idea...

buy one for $2000, then convert it to run on Natural Gas /$1 a gallon/ and/or Non-Corn Biodiesel /$2 a gallon/ (Hemp, Switchgrass, waste, or Kudzu).

[liberaltrucker]

30. Engineering major at AU?

Hope so!

:)

[DAMANgoldberg]

69. started out that way...

Hotel and Rest. Mgt., just now in the trucking biz and after seeing NGV out west and other biodiesels, heck it wouldn't be the worst thing at those prices.

[Ikonoklast]

38. I wonder if someone sells a LNG conversion kit for those motors

Hell, as little driving as I do in a personal vehicle, I could by used Hummer dirt cheap and convert it, and still be money ahead.

Hmmm. Now I have to do some research.

[Wednesdays]

41. Maybe turn it into an electric

There are electric motors out there powerful enough. The downside is, he'd have to re-charge it every 30 feet.

[EOTE]

53. How does the specific energy of NG compare to gasoline?

I don't believe it's very good. While NG may be available for a buck a gallon, I believe the fuel economy on natural gas would go way down. Where as a typical H2 might average 15mpg, I'd imagine that on natural gas it would be 5mpg or less. Do you know the specifics of how it compares?

[JohnyCanuck]

45. He might even pay you $4k just to drive it away. n/t

[eridani]

9. Or he could put it up on blocks and live in it

--like those remodeled old schoolbusses.

[Gormy Cuss]

52. Or remove the windows, attach a ladder and voila, a child's backyard playhouse.

I'm thinking that I could use a Hummer as a portable backyard shed too.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. My dear liberaltrucker!

And it could NOT happen to a more deserving company, or a more worthy vehicle!

Nope.

No sympathy, EVER!

:rofl: :rofl:

[liberaltrucker]

12. But..but..but

Your Governator LOVES them!

:sarcasm:

:hug:

[doublethink]

17. Arnold Eating Crow ....

[liberaltrucker]

27. I stand corrected

:beer:

[Naturyl]

7. Yay!

Here's to seeing fewer and few of the silly shitboxes on the road.

Every time I see one, I want to tell the driver "real soldiers died in their Hummers so you could play in yours."

[Fovea]

15. I get off my bicycle

point, and laugh my ass off.

[cliffordu]

25. I do exactly the same thing.

I asked one guy if he was going to pimp his children out for gas money when it hits 250 a barrel.....

He just about went insane.....

[The Doctor.]

19. True story...

I took my baby girl (3) with me to go to breakfast one morning. We stopped at a local grocery store so I could get something (don't remember what).

A great big yellow hummer was parked across not one, not two, but three parking spaces, and, I shit you not... one of them was a handicapped space.

I waited a while for the owner to come out of the store, but it took a little too long, so I left. Low and behold, as I pulled out, I saw someone get into it. I manuevered so we'd wind up at the same red light.

At the light, I lowered my window to say something (he was on my right). He saw and lowered his. I smiled and said, "Nice car." He smiled and gave me a 'thumbs up'.

I asked; "Say, does it come with that feature or do you have to pay extra?"

He said, "Which one?"

"The one that lets you park like a jackass."

He looked a little injured and pissed, I smiled and rolled my window up as the light turned green.

Always my biggest pet peeve with people who drive big fucking cars for nothing more than status. So insecure they have to announce their importance with a POS they can't even park.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

24. What a perfect story!

I love it!

Good for you!

:rofl: :rofl:

:yourock:

[Sherman A1]

35. Another True Story to add

several months ago (Yes, when gas prices were going up and up and up). A co-worker at the grocery store where I work, bought one (none of us could figure out why at the time). She bought a late model used H2 against her husbands advice and while she lives very close to work, so gas isn't too big a problem, It dawned on Miss Showboat that Yes, her neighbors would vandalize her land yacht, that long trips were VERY expensive and that GREAT deal she got on it, somehow didn't translate into savings at the pump. So now we are hearing regrets when she speaks of it at all, but that is very, very rarely......

[The Doctor.]

61. I love it. Did anyone warn her off of it before she took the plunge?

[Sherman A1]

68. I have no direct contact with her

just to occasional hello or see ya later, but I understand that several folks tried to convince her that is wasn't such a good idea.

[formercia]

39. Big men with little dicks. n/t

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

48. What an asshat that guy was

I often see expensive cars - Bentleys, Audi A8s, S-Class Mercedes, Corvettes, and once even a Ferrari - at the Whole Foods a couple of blocks from my apartment. Every one I've seen has been properly parked in one space - I always check out the nice rides as I am a car guy. Maybe it's a Minnesota Nice thing.

[Lautremont]

50. I saw a similar thing: 1 hummer, two spaces, one a handicapped spot.

Un-fuckin'-believable. I nearly keyed the thing. Might have, but the driver was one scary looking mofo.

[CoffeeCat]

73. Oh my...

...THAT would be an amazing bumper sticker.

Seriously, that's genius.

You could sell that bumper sticker. Don't forget us
when you make your first million!

[orleans]

10. where are your government "rebate" checks for this piece of shit now?

gm won't let owners trade them back in? that's hysterical!

they deserve it--those pigs who all happily bent over to let bush fuck them up the ass. right--they really showed all those saudis by buying those gas guzzling pieces of shit! (morons!)

[LibertyorDeath]

11. How sweet is that LOL

So Sweet!!

[Triana]

13. Penis on wheels...

...sorry, I hadda say it. People who drive those tanks must seriously have some insecurity issues.

Therapy would be cheaper than a Hummer. But I guess they learned too late.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. Will they drop the Wannabee XXL Jock Strap Accessory Kit?

[The Doctor.]

16. They were POS to begin with... just an over loaded Suburban frame.

B-Bye.

Wait for prices to hit rock-bottom, and buy one as a collector's item. They'll be worth something again when people can no longer believe inefficiency was a 'virtue'.

Our great-grandkids will be amazed.

[RufusTFirefly]

18. Doin' a little tap dance on the Hummer's grave

Because it's a behemoth not a being, I don't feel the least bit of remorse.

Regarding the penis: I suggested long ago on a similar (but vastly inferior) board that Hummer owners should sport a bumpersticker that said:

My Other Penis is a Penis

As for me, I'd like to wear a T-shirt that says

Real Men Don't Have to Pay for their Hummers

Good riddance. I never understood the Hummer craze in the first place, but as Norman Bates once put it: "We all go a little mad sometimes."

[liberaltrucker]

29. That we do

:shrug:

[mdmc]

56. yup

:hi:

[Arugula Latte]

20. I hope they will become increasingly expensive to repair, with parts increasingly hard to find

and I hope all the arrogant jerkoffs who bought them go bankrupt and die penniless and unloved.

[LeftyMom]

70. nah, other than the body panels and interior trim an H2 is a Tahoe

and there are enough of those to keep up demand for parts.

[gateley]

21. Out of curiosity -- what was the mileage? Anybody know? nt

[liberaltrucker]

31. All it said was "low mileage"

I couldn't exactly whip my rig into a small drive ti check it out.

[gateley]

44. Sorry - I totally didn't word that clearly. I meant, what kind of mileage do Hummers

actually get? How many MPG?

[MorningGlow]

54. Hummer mileage story!

MG Jr. (4) is a huuuuge car fan, so we took him to the new-car show at our local convention center last spring. Of course I spent the entire time peeking at window stickers for MPG (and they were all pretty pathetic--talk about the car companies being out of touch!) Mr. MG pointed out how the two Hummers didn't have stickers AT ALL. So we hung around them, eavesdropping, as most people at the show were very concerned about gas mileage. Sure enough, a beefy tough-guy type spending a lot of time examining the Hummers asked the rep what the mileage was. The rep did a really nice tap dance to avoid the question, but the guy kept pressing him, so he finally relented:

7 mpg

[gateley]

55. Holy cow!

That's worse than a Lamborghini, I think!

And people BOUGHT these things? The gas tank would have to be enormous!

[MorningGlow]

57. Holds 32 gallons, according to the intertubes

The sick thing is the original Hummer had a smaller gas tank (25 gal. according to the intertubes) and got (relatively) better mileage (16 mpg).

But...32 mpg. x $4.00 = $128.00 for a fillup. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of people than idiots who buy Hummers.

[EOTE]

58. An H2 gets around 16-17 HWY I believe.

An H3 gets about 20 HWY. Not exactly economy vehicles.

[MorningGlow]

59. Not quite

A site I looked up earlier (I'll have to find it again) said H1s got 16 mpg and H2s get 8 or 9. I don't know where the rep got 7 mpg, unless he was being more honest! Don't know about H3s--gotta look it up.

On edit: http://trucks.about.com/cs/suvreviews/a/hummer_fuel04.htm

[EOTE]

62. H2 mileage isn't THAT bad.

H1s and H2s get very similar mileage. Where as the H1 with its massive 8000 lbs to haul around has a turbo diesel powering it, so its fuel economy greatly benefits greatly from that. The H2 weighs at least a ton less than the H1, but it's powered by a conventional gas V8 from the Suburban, Yukon, Escalade, etc. The H2s certainly don't get in the single digits (well, maybe if you were flooring it going uphill you would). The H3 is powered by an inline five cylinder codeveloped with Saab, and is lighter than the H1 and H2 and as such gets better fuel economy than both of them. That site has a lot of wrong information on it. It states that all Hummer vehicles are considered to be heavy duty, only the H1 is. The rest weigh well under 4 tons.

[B3Nut]

63. I always thought an H1 running on biodiesel

would make a dandy utility random-large-crap dragger for a farm. They sit high, get good traction, and the diesel has low end torque out the wazoo. Ugly as sin, but might be good if put to real work.

The H2 and H3 are just posermobiles, and pathetic ones at that...a new Tahoe running E85 does everything the H2 can do, only much better. And you can see out of the damned thing too.

Me? I'd rather have a diesel Sprinter. Much more room than an SUV ever could have...I could pretty much fit the whole band in one, PA and all...as long as we're dreaming about vehicles we can't afford... :D

[EOTE]

65. I believe H2s can run on E85 as well.

It is the same 6 liter they use in the Tahoe. And if GM retrofits it for E85 in the Tahoe, I don't know why they wouldn't do it in the H2 as well. However, I've seen no plans to make an H2 hybrid like they've done in the very highly regarded Yukon/Tahoe hybrid. And I'm sure that many farmers would love to have an H1 available if they could afford one. As for the sprinter you want, I think they're pretty cool vehicles. It's great that they have a diesel option, but they seem so incredibly huge to be powered by a 6 cylinder diesel. I'd imagine they have a pretty poor power to weight ratio (although a great fuel economy to weight ratio) which would make them difficult to drive in certain places. Also, I hate getting stuck behind one because they're just impossible to see around. And I think their tallness is great for loading it up with stuff and occupant comfort, but I wonder if they have a really high center of gravity that would make them prone to rollovers. Regardless, Dodge seems to have no problem selling them.

[CoffeeCat]

74. Our SUV

...which I call the "shamemobile" weighs 5,000 lbs and gets about 11.

It's disgusting.

I can't even imagine what a Hummer gets. Less than 7, I imagine.

[Tigress DEM]

22. Shore em up with Armor and send them to replace National Guard equipment.

They might be useful in those heavy use dangerous situations, pulling people from storm ravaged areas, delivering supplies etc...

Hey, Maybe Venezuela might like them. They have plenty of oil!

[symbolman]

36. Thats actually a good idea..

create a Govt Bailout for Hummer owners, "Adopt a Hummer" for a GI, ship it to Iraq..

All the previous owner has to do is sign a form admitting they were an Idiot, and issue a public apology, then they can brag that they're helping out the Soldiers.. We all have to make sacrifices :)

[bushmeister0]

60. Indeed, or the Russians, who seem to have just been introduced to the armoured penises.

"Russian troops take prisoners and grab American humvees"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3821215&mesg_id=3821215

Notice they're towing the Humvees.

[GreenTea]

23. Limbaugh, Bush & the republicans thought it would be so funny to stick it to the liberals,

environmentalist and to stuff it in our faces.....to legislate huge tax breaks for new buyers, the non caring, stupid buyers of the the absolutely ugly, huge, polluting, gas guzzling, awkward road hog Hummer....Let's not forget this!

Now the jokes on the selfish, piggish, cowboy mentality republican Hummer owners, (and our environment).

Aren't the hateful, lying, vindictive, greedy, childish republicans just so damn cute? As they walk away from it all, no accountability for the encouraging republicans and the greedy oil corporations, will become only a small but spiteful footnote in history and our planet that most have forgotten......

[Dukkha]

28. there's a correlation here with this story and the Chinese penis restaurant

[FloridaJudy]

32. Nah.

The Chinese may consider dog dicks a delicacy, but they aren't that crazy!

Today I saw the ultimate in vehicular insanity: a Hummer limo. Whoever thought that one up definitely needs stronger meds.

[TrogL]

67. That's not quite as stupid an idea as it originally sounds

We've got one here in town. Load it up with a dozen or so teenagers and that's a lot of weight to drag around. The big engine helps.

[underseasurveyor]

33. Awww now damnit that breaks my heart

:spray:I lie like a dawg too

[wolverinez]

34. I'm absolutely shocked!

Talk about overcompensating.

[Enrique]

37. now we'll be able to see down the road again

i've been missing visibility.

[Indenturedebtor]

40. Dammit! What am I going to flick ciggarettes at now? :( nt

[Ilsa]

42. Maybe he got one of those generous Bush* tax breaks on the HOG.

I bet some smart person could re-engineer the vehicle with a power system more economical. As a hobby, of course.

Or put it in the back yard and let the kids use it for a playhouse.

[LeftHander]

43. Time for a massive adertising campaign then...

Slap Micheal Phelps and Brittany Spears together in a Hummer and pretty much every Hummer made will sell in 10 days.

[rucky]

46. schadenfreude

[Ishoutandscream2]

They're still everywhere here in Bushville Suburbia, Texas

Everytime I see one, I just sneer and shake my head at the driver.

[Herman74]

47. Good Riddance. Time for ALL global-warming, air-polluting SUVs to go. n/t

[Froward69]

49. Ive had my eye

on a Suburban down the block... he bought it new in 2005. The for sale sign started at 14,000 it is now down to 9,000. when it hits 5,000 I will snap it up. I need a new WORK truck for heavy loads. NOT for everyday driving like he bought it for. he bought my old 1989 Subaru for 3,000 last march! BTW It's the same GOPer that lived in his garage last winter. UPDATE; he finished his house and moved in. No drywall as yet, the mcMansion he built across the road is now a RENTAL with no less than 10 college students in it. Party time! he says he is still undecided as to whom to vote for... :rofl:

[KansDem]

51. Apparently, the Russians like them...

DU thread--

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3821215">Russian troops take prisoners and drive away in American humvees!

...at least the military version. And the fact they didn't pay for them might also make them all the more attractive.

[geomon666]

64. I actually saw two of the first generation conversions on the road today.

Ugly huge hogs on the road is what they looked like.

[carlyhippy]

66. never to worry, I figure a hummer hybrid is in the works

they will remove the stigma of being a gas guzzling monster with a hybrid label and still charge a mint on the sticker price.

When we were SUV shopping, a lot tried to sell me a hummer, it wasn't that great big model, but the smaller one. This was several months ago and they were trying to sell it to me for like 20,000, which was relatively cheap for a hummer, but I don't like them, I think they are ugly myself and they suck in mpg.

[Quantess]

71. right now, Hummer owner should post Craigslist ad:

Drive it off a cliff for the chance of being noticed as a stunt actor!!

[CoffeeCat]

72. If that guy wants to sell that Hummer...

...he should make some minor rennovations and he could easily rent
it out as a 2 bedroom bungalow.