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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:35 AM Original message |
Should city shut off water if you can't pay? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. Absolutely NOT! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. Va. Beach turned off the water for my elderly mother with back debt less than $100... |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Well it worked didn't it. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Making her get into a cab with a stranger and drive about 15 miles to City Hall was rubbing it in.. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. The new Christian way MookieWilson. A little shock with that awe! |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. I just have to ask |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Some Moms are in other states.......... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. She didn't tell me and I live 5 hours away. I found the paperwork after she died. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
69. I reiterate her FUCK YOU, you insensitive know-nothing asshole. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Personally |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Mom was good in covering up her dementia. nt |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. We know WHY they do it, the question is SHOULD they |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. I agree. It's a basic concern to aid foundations in the 3rd world. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
5. Fundamental necessities should be paid for like schools |
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2KS2KHonda (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Food is a fundamental necessity as well, should we get free vittles |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. There's a scary thought. The Department of Food. |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. that is scary... |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Sure, why not, if you're talking healthy food? |
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2KS2KHonda (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Honestly I wasn't meaning to rib you, I thought you were serious. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. We already depend on the government to provide |
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2KS2KHonda (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. I don't know the answers to those questions, perhaps you do but let me reply with another question: |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. Clean water, like health care, is a RIGHT |
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2KS2KHonda (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. So should food, right? How about rent? I guess I missed that part of the Constitution |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Perhaps you should study up on the Constitution |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. Lots of kids do, through the Dept of Ag. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
71. Basic fuel to survive? Absolutely. |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. I think it would depend on the circumstances. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's illegal in lots of places to turn off the heat in the winter... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. No. A lien against the property can be assessed ... as long as a sale isn't FORCED. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Many municipalities would have to reassess how they bill |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. a person is gonna sit in their home and die of thirst instead of going to neighbors |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Some people are shut-ins |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. It can be very hard on kids. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. Here's a compromise: if you don't pay your bill (for a LONG TIME) |
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2KS2KHonda (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Our water district works a bit like your last scenario...there's a minimum charge |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
18. Sure. Money trumps everything |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
57. Brava! Very well said. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. that's the best suggestion yet |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. only if... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. THIS? Is why I think billionaires, and any system that allows them, are evil. EVIL. That they can |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
23. There should be an emergency parachute for anyone who HONESTLY |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. We need an emergency fund for this. n/t |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
28. The question should be "should water be paid for from general taxation and free at point of use"? |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Only if it's rationed. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. I had a battle with the city of Cleveland water department |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
34. No. The necessities of life should NEVER be denied |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
35. That Was An Incredible Tragedy |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Almost 800 people died and the President and FEMA didn't react |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
72. And let's not forget: CLINTON was president then. He was as callous as b*s* after Katrina. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
39. When I was a kid, water was the only utility that wasn't allowed to do shut offs for nonpayment. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. Our water is owned by a speculator. They'd turn it off without a |
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TheFriendlyAnarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
43. Hmm. . . |
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The Inquisitive (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
44. No, the first acre-foot or so should be free for residential consumption |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. That sounds like a workable idea. Give the basic amount needed |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. No, it should never be turned off |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. Seems to me that water should be free to everyone. The city should find |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Then people would not value it at all. We need to encourage conservation. nt |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. It can be rationed you know. You don't have to deny people water because |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
49. A real social safety net would supply the essentials for free... |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. absolutely not |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. um...all that infrastructure to DELIVER it sure does cost |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. yeah, I understand that |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. maybe...but maintenance IS expensive |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. the Southeast is more moist than the Southwest, but it's still not as moist |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. ATL is currently undergoing a $3.9BILLION |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
56. Our water service was shut off over a $51 bill... |
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2KS2KHonda (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Out here, if you miss 3 months payment they pull the meter and it is $800 to get it put back. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
60. Its too bad there is no way to restrict use per day -- say 10 gallons/person. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
65. Yes. But.... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
66. A living ration of water should be free. After that you pay for usage. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
68. Almost immoral? It's HOMICIDE. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-18-08 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
70. But, of course. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-21-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
73. thanks for this link - awful thing to be without water |
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