BIGFOOT photo and DNA shows-part inconclusive, part human, part opposum

[underpants]

This still frame image from video provided by Bigfoot Global LLC, shows what is claimed by them to be a bigfoot or sasquatch creature in an undisclosed area of a northern Georgia forest in June 2008.
(AP Photo/Bigfoot Global LLC)


A second round of DNA testing on what the men claim is a dead 2.13-metre, 250-kilogram Bigfoot they say they stumbled on while hiking in Georgia in June is still being completed.

Of three samples in a preliminary DNA test, one came back inconclusive, one contained traces of human DNA and one had traces of opossum DNA, probably from something the creature ate, they claimed.

They didn't produce a Bigfoot corpse; that is in a hidden location, they said, after being moved from a freezer that broke down a couple of times. They will not say exactly where they found the creature and claim they saw a band of other Bigfoots watching them. Neither will they allow anyone other than their own hand-picked scientists to examine the body of the dead animal.

"We're now the best Bigfoot hunters in the world," said Matthew Whitton, 31. Whitton and his hiking partner, Rick Dyer, 28, wore the hats to prove it, advertising their website.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/little-evidence-of-bigfoot/2008/08/16/1218307308056.html

Mr Whitton is a police officer who is on disability leave; Mr Dyer is a car salesman and tow-truck operator.

The pair produced two more still pictures. One blurry image, they claim, clearly shows one of several other Bigfoot family members that they said were walking beside them in their top-secret, undisclosed location where they allege they found the dead man-ape.

[liberalmuse]

1. I'm not buying it.

Who here thinks this is a hoax? The picture of the "creature" in the icebox looks like a guy in an ape suit. The fur looks synthetic. I crack up when I hear someone in the media say, "Well, one of the guys is a police officer.", as if that's enough to shoosh the naysayers. Um, all the more reason to pull a hoax that is liable to make you instantly rich.

[Kansas Wyatt]

3. It's all horse shit!

Just like that alleged film of an alien autopsy a few years back. They are only looking to cash in on THEIR props.

[LisaL]

25. The fur looks synthetic to me too.

The question is, why on Earth is press giving so much time to this?

[Faygo Kid]

2. I think Bigfoot is behind the crop circles, too.

British Bigfoot, of course.

[underpants]

6. Actually they solved that one too

Turns out the aliens just want to play baseball


they just haven't figured out the diamond shape yet (the have the circle DOWN though)

[Hugin]

9. Yeah, that doesn't look much like a baseball diamond.

:rofl:




Thanks for the ride, UP. Lounge here we come!

[Faygo Kid]

26. But, was that crack really necessary?

Sorry. Entertaining graphic, indeed.

[RB TexLa]

4. Isn't a half human, half opossum creature pretty big news?

[ForrestGump]

15. Nah...he's been in the public eye for quite a while now:

He's a friend of Big-Foot-In-Mouth.

[Faygo Kid]

27. Ewwww! My eyes!

Somebody give him a comb to lick.

[Botany]

5. pure crap

and one had traces of opossum DNA, probably from something the creature ate, they claimed.

So if I eat beef will my hair have the DNA of cows??????????

move on ... pure con men here

[merh]

7. If they had it they would turn it over to a lab or a university for

preservation and testing.

A load of horseshit

[screembloodymurder]

8. It's pure bullshit, but why is the press covering it?

I think they have an ulterior motive. I think they want to ridicule those who are not in tune with mainstream thinking. Let's see how this plays out.

[Hugin]

10. Mmmm... opposum tacos!

Tastes just like Bigfoot!

[Reader Rabbit]

11. Somebody sure had a lot to drink for *that* conception to happen!

I think I must go apply bleach to my brain now.

:hide:

[Hugin]

12. Well, it does get lonely down in those woods there...

Yep.

:lol:

[kestrel91316]

13. Forest photo >>>> guy in ape suit.

And how the hell did they screw up their "Bigfoot" DNA sample so bad that it came back mostly human and possum??? LOL

If they in fact have a corpse, it's not hard to take a SIZEABLE PIECE OF FLESH that WON'T come back 90% possum.

Sheesh. They're not only fakers, they're crappy fakers.

[ForrestGump]

16. I don't know...he looks pretty convincing to me

And that powder blue T-shirt really brings out his eyes.

[NightWatcher]

14. bigfoot mystery solved....my ex lives in the area and has often dined on possum

she was a bit hairy, but the pictures show she has let herself go.



:spank:

[gateley]

17. I heard some cryptozoologists on the radio last night

(not a real science, I don't think, but these people are very interested in topics like this) and each and every one of them called this bullshit.

I'm one of the ones who believes there may be species like these out there, but this story is obviously a scam.

[Canuckistanian]

18. Damn right they "hide for a reason"

Because if they make themselves known, some redneck with a gun and a website is ready to shoot them down.

I think they have superior instincts for survival.

[stubtoe]

19. Bigfoot - the hoax that wouldn't die.

sigh.

[EFerrari]

23. I'm loving this. One of these guys is a cop, too.

:rofl:

[seasat]

20. Why is it that the photos are always blurry?

Is it just that big foot, Lochness monster, ghost hunters, or space alien trackers can't afford decent cameras? Maybe the government is behind it and sending out secret beam that distorts the light protecting these mysterious creatures. All of these creatures are probably under some secret government program to help us fight the war on terror and Ming the Merciless. They can't be simply taking blurry photos in hopes of pulling off a hoax. ;)

[underpants]

54. Them Bigfoots is quick!

Every single "discoverer" says the same thing "Damn didn't bring the camera that focuses!!!" :grr::mad:

[lutherj]

21. Self delete - (after reflection this may have been in poor taste)

[Hubert Flottz]

22. Take a TV out in the woods and tune it into FOX and in a short ...

time you will have every bigfoot and his brother watching that sh!t.

[tuckessee]

24. A cop, a prison guard and a tow truck operator are involved.

If that doesn't say enough I don't know what will.

[SpookyCat]

48. LOL!!!

I read your post to my husband, and he said "well, if you can't trust the start of a three guys walk into a bar joke, then who can you trust?"

:rofl:

[underpants]

55. *

a cop ON DISABILITY

Um why is he walking around in the woods on trails if he is on disability??? :shrug:

[frogmarch]

28. Even when it's been proven

to have been a hoax, there will always be those who believe it's true, just like with the crop circles hoax.

Some people are really stupid.

[ForrestGump]

30. Sasquatch and similar are entirely possible

Black-and-white 'skeptics' (the word is not really appropriate, because true skeptics should maintain an open mind, rarely the case with self-described skeptics here on DU) who do not acknowledge that possibility, no matter how remote, are guilty of nothing less than fundamentalism. Some of these naysayers are scientific wannabes or relative neophytes, who may have taken university science coursework to some level (but not far enough to begin to really see how little we know), and some are experienced silverbacks who've become too immersed in the specifics of their own work and status and somehow became easily convinced that they know more absolutes than they really do.

I say this as a scientist, with higher degrees in natural sciences, who's gone far enough in science in the real world to know that there's much out there, Horatio, that we've yet to learn and discover. Some -- cue those self-described 'skeptics' again -- seem to think that we know it all and are quick to judge things as being "impossible"; that's a supremely arrogant and fatally flawed view and is exactly that of those who taunted Copernicus and Galileo.

Science is not infallible and should not be used as a substitute for religion. Science is dynamic and even what we think we know as a certainty is usually subject to eternal revision. The reality of that can be inconvenient, especially to those who crave order or some (false) sense of mastery over our universe, but it's what makes life worth living and questions worth posing.

The existence of these beasties, or similar, remains an open question. Some questions will never be fully answered. C'est la vie.

[dysfunctional press]

31. doubtful.

how/where would such a large ceature/species survive undetected throughout all of human history, while maintaining numbers big enough to perpetuate a population?

[frogmarch]

36. Since you're a scientist,

you should know that for a creature like Bigfoot to exist, there would have to be a population of them. Sure are elusive critters, aren't they, especially for being so big? :eyes: I realize that new species of plants and animals are sometimes discovered, but in recent years, no animal as large as a Bigfoot has been been discovered on land, anywhere.

[ForrestGump]

39. Missed the point

(or vice-versa)

I'm not saying that these animals necessarily exist, or ever did, but it nevertheless remains a possibility. There have been a few mammals newly described in recent years, though obviously nothing as big as these hairy dudes apparently are. There are also still some pretty extensive tracts of wild land left on this continent as well as on others where similar animals have been reported or are the stuff of legend (let's leave out the interesting but inconclusive ubiquity of traditional tales of such 'monsters') -- as much as we've modified the planet, there are many places left that have no obvious signs of human existence other than contrails. I've been to quite a few of these places and even a 30' tall man-ape in a pink catsuit could escape detection in some such environs. And, of course, any wild animal worth its pelt is not going to have much to do with humans, gun-toting Georgians or otherwise, if they know what's good for them.

I mean, I guess I could be facetious and ask how we haven't yet found Hoffa or DB Cooper (who dropped right in Bigfoot Central), both of whom undeniably existed, but there's no point because -- again -- all I'm saying is that there remains a possibility that the Bigfoot legend has a real basis and that this possibility is not diminished by the array of hoaxers who've attempted to cash in or have fun with the idea. That seems a fairly basic concept.

[frogmarch]

49. You seem to have missed

my point. There'd have to be a population of these animals, not just one or two.

If there are populations of Hoffas and Coopers and 30' tall man-apes in pink suits living somewhere in the deep woods, someone would've discovered them by now.

Bigfoot is a hoax.

[SpookyCat]

50. We found DB Coopers money or some of it.

That's the point. A giant, bipedal ape like creature in North America, never mind the Pacific North West, would have left evidence of itself. There is none.

I will even grant you the possibility of a Yeti creature (snow ape) in the Himalayas. That still remains a slight possibility, but no Bigfoot. Nope.

The argument that "It could be possible, you don't know" is weak. I don't know that there isn't a pink unicorn in Yosemite either, but I'm pretty willing to say there isn't.

One of my favorite sayings, "Don't let your mind be so open your brain falls out"

(I'm resisting the urge to quote Prof. Farnsworth right now...)

[Sam Ervin jret]

52. I think Mr. Gump's point is only that science does not, can not, should not be seen as having solved

all the mysteries of life.

The more questions science answers the more questions science finds to ask.

Myths that cross cultures and ages should not be accepted a fact or dismissed as fancy. It's not the role of science to do so in a dismissive fashion.

[SpookyCat]

53. So we should give equal weight to Creationism?

That is your argument, actually. If science "does not, can not, should not" answer questions, then God Did It is acceptable.

It is not the purpose of science to solve all mysteries. But wild flights of fancy are daydreams, not possibilities.

[Orangeone]

29. Part Man, Part Vindaloo nt

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32. Bigfoot? Looks more like Manbearpig to me.

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[baldguy]

34. Well, they'll fuck anything in Georgia

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

35. "We're now the best Bigfoot hunters in the world," said Matthew Whitton

An accomplishment roughly on a par with being the best hockey player in Saudi Arabia. :rofl:

[Johonny]

37. thank god for crap like this

or else Discovery would have nothing to air at 3 am

[HuffleClaw]

38. that JOKE of a 'press conference' was the funniest thing i've seen in years

from the press conference, quoted in a story from mercurynews.com

""Do you think these men would have come this far for a hoax?" Biscardi asked.

"Yes," chorused the audience."


http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10222777?source=most_emailed

[Buns_of_Fire]

40. "Bigfoot Global LLC"?

They're worldwide! And what's worse, they're a multinational corporation!:scared:

[Tutonic]

41. Looks like Karen Hughes to me.

[Prefer]

42. Makes me want to get into the Bigfoot game myself

I think I could bring some unique ideas to the Bigfoot business.

The way I see it, Bigfoot is more than just a creature, Bigfoot is a state of mind.

[pokerfan]

45. I know someone who did, more than thirty years ago

As a kid he cut out some fake plywood feet and went running around in the woods. Some "expert" from the university was flown in and made casts. This "expert" said that it was authentic because of subtle details in the features of the footprints, that someone would have to be an expert in anatomy to pull off such a hoax, blah blah blah... They were plywood cutouts!

[Cleita]

51. Northern California is full of little towns that claim to be Bigfoot country.

Well, the little tourist attractions keep the locals employed in an economy that is dismal even during the good times, kind of like New Mexico has Roswell as UFO country.

[Liberal In Texas]

43. BIGFOOT....

[pokerfan]

44. But... but... but...

they have a body!!!!!

Stored someplace safe... Someplace secret...

Here, look at these fuzzy pictures instead.

What a crock.

[Bright Eyes]

46. We haven't heard from Karl Rove in awhile.

Anybody know if Rove likes opossum?

[BurtWorm]

47. I do see a slight resemblance...