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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:45 PM Original message |
Why have so many "liberals" embraced paternalism as social policy? |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. I would argue those people aren't really liberal. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Examples? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Most of Bill's social policies, for one. |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. Paternalism is what most DUers believe in. But it doesn't mean what your post |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Paternalism means, as its root word "pater" suggests |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. There are plenty people here who think a major role of government is to protect every person |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. What your describing is very different from paternalism, though. |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sorry, but that is just patent nonsense. I know you know better. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Most Du'ers want a strong social welfare system and would back federal jobs programs |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Hmmm, in 9 days you know ... |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I don't think there's anything inappropriate or against the rules about their debate. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Ah, but a "paternalistic" employer is one of the old school, who treats his employees right. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. Right About The Time |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Nice try, but you can't pass it off as an Obama thing. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. Because when the Democratic party decided to ignore economic justice... |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. ^^This. correlates nicely with the rise of the fucking DLC |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
16. It's always easier to beat up on and slander people who can't fight back. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
18. I thought this was going to be a anti-"nanny state" post. But I totally |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. I think a lot of people mistake social control for social justice. n/t |
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