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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:39 PM Original message |
Army Psychologist-Who Ordered Torture Of Juvenile Detainee-Pleads 'Fifth' At Gitmo Trial |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. The SS was composed of very educated people... |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Correction |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. I think it's important to understand this --- and I'll remain shocked and disappointed that it's ... |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Funny, I was thinking the same thing. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. She needs to be streamlined into the nearest maximum security prison. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Stripped from "her" profession. A woman psychologist who tortures children. |
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offog (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-17-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Right on, liberalmuse. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. I defend this man's right not to incriminate himself. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sickening, sickening. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh, well, it was just a raghead kid |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. Zierhoffer is guilty of war crimes and the APA are collaborators. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. the APA and the ABA have corporate powerful interests to consider |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Yes, they're part of the military-industrial complex. |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. How is the APA responsible though? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
54. The APA leadership is in bed with the Pentagon on the torture business. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. You are not allowed to invoke the 5th just because you don't want to answer... |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Ding ding ding.......n't |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. or believe that others may think so. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. NO. That is a very dangerous assumption. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. FUCKING COWARD! n/t |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Dr. Zierhoffer has some....experiments....to conduct in the...camps |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Exactly. How is this any different than Mengele? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. she should be detained by a group of Afghani's and encouraged |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. And will they come home to their private practices to then treat the soldiers |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
14. K&R. She got her rights but didn't hesitate to torture others |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. her name will be forever tainted by Gitmo -- punishment enough under the Mukasey Doctrine? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. So he says. Disgusting. I never heard that bad publicity was a bad thing |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. under the Mukasey Doctrine, party affiliation means everything: bad publicity means hero worship |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. It's (Long) Past Time To Impeach For Torture |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. They could pay no penalty equal to their crimes. Torture children? |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
16. K&R n/t |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
17. k&r |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
20. This psychologist is screwed and will likely be held accountable. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
22. She is a psychologist and she ordered the torture of a child? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. She is evil |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. She's about to be used in a Scientology propaganda video |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
23. I first read that as "pleads filth" |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
28. To disassociate at that age... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
32. This woman is a disgrace to her profession, her sex and her species. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
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volstork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
34. The "Fifth?!?!?!" |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
35. This is exhibit # ONE of why we should all be cautious about ALL that shrinks have to say. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. One of the shocking things that was made clear about psychiatry . . . |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. You misunderstand |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. You misunderstand . . . . this was NOT a humanistic approach to patients . . . |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I couldn't find the reference, either... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. In reply . . . my final comments --- |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
61. You bring up very important points. While I'm angry at the profession, |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Actually, feeding back is a good and reasonable aspect of listening. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
37. Dr Zierhoffer needs to lose her license, if the evidence is solid |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. Disgusting Coward... You Have to Be Seriously Deranged to do or Order Such a thing |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You are asking the wrong questions |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. wow... really good point |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. If you're interested... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Thanks Again.... I Will Check It Out |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. However, her training should have given her sufficient insight into these dynamics |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
46. She reminds me of some SS monsters: |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. She knew what was going on and she was on board. |
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Riktor (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I would revise a few points... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. No, the torture program was specifically designed to produce false intelligence. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-15-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
53. Maybe they should just torture her until she confesses. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-16-08 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
59. I wonder if such rights were extended to the "detainees". |
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