Attorney: 'DC Madam' left instructions if 'ever found dead of apparent suicide'

[kpete]

Citizens for Legitimate Government, a multi-partisan activist group established to expose the Bush Coup d'Etat and oppose the Bush occupation in all of its manifestations.

Attorney: 'DC Madam' left instructions if 'ever found dead of apparent suicide' By Lori Price
www.legitgov.org

Attorney: "Jeane was very clear with me that if she was ever found dead of an apparent suicide, I was to make sure that all the evidence was publicly disseminated so that it could be independently evaluated."

Exclusive: Citizens For Legitimate Government has learned that Deborah Jeane Palfrey's lawyer, Montgomery Blair Sibley, has intervened to stop a lawsuit seeking to prevent the Tarpon Springs, Florida, Police Department from releasing information requested by Sibley pertaining to the investigation of Jeane's death.

On July 22, 2008, Sibley requested under the Florida Public Records Act, "copies of any and all records, including without limitation police reports and photographs, related to the investigation of the death of Deborah Jeane Palfrey on May 1, 2008, at (redacted) Tarpon Springs, Florida. This request includes copies of every document related to the matter, regardless of the format in which the information is stored. I note that information stored on a computer is as much a public record as a written page in a book or stored in a filing cabinet."

Citing his obligation to discharge explicit instructions from his former client, Jeane Palfrey, the so-called DC Madam, to "fully investigate and reveal the circumstances of her death if deemed a suicide by authorities," her attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, has moved to intervene in a lawsuit filed by Jeane's mother, Blanche Palfrey. That lawsuit seeks to prevent the Tarpon Springs, Florida Police Department from releasing information requested by Sibley pertaining the investigation of Jeane's death on May 1 of this year.

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http://www.legitgov.org/dc_madam_update_100808.html

[malaise]

1. Very strange

Don't see how her mother can prevent her wishes from being followed. She was an adult.

I do not believe she committed suicide. M$M won't follow this up will they!

[truedelphi]

2. I am sorry but the following paragraph has my head spinning.

I feel like I am reading a California ballot proposition wherein I need to vote yes on no to make a maybe a yes if no one votes no!

This is the troublesome paragraph for me:
Exclusive: Citizens For Legitimate Government has learned that Deborah Jeane Palfrey's lawyer, Montgomery Blair Sibley, has intervened to stop a lawsuit seeking to prevent the Tarpon Springs, Florida, Police Department from releasing information requested by Sibley pertaining to the investigation of Jeane's death.

What exactly is this paragraph saying, and IS IT CORRECT?

[malaise]

3. Deborah Jeane Palfrey's mother has sued to prevent her daughter's request

to release all the evidence if she was 'suicided'

Attorney: "Jeane was very clear with me that if she was ever found dead of an apparent suicide, I was to make sure that all the evidence was publicly disseminated so that it could be independently evaluated."

And yes, it was badly written.

[truedelphi]

7. Thank you both. n/t

[mzmolly]

21. Do we know that her daughter requested anything of the sort?

:shrug:

[defendandprotect]

28. Maybe the mother is being threatened . . .

though I'm sure the lawyer is also being threatened --- ????

[arthritisR_US]

44. I think the mother is scared shitless. n/t

[barbtries]

40. i checked the story on the mother's lawsuit

and as far as i can tell, it pertains to the photograhs of her daughter. i'm not sure she's fighting the release of all the information at all.

when my daughter died, we never saw her again. some 243 photographs were taken at the scene of the crime. i've never looked at one. i did however read the traffic report, the ems report, the coroner's report, etc. i had to know everything. but i didn't need to look at my daughter like that - she died violently. from the reports i read and elsewhere i know we made the right decision when we took the advice of the hospital and chose not to view her body. i have to say that i've entertained the horror fantasy of clicking onto a webpage and being faced with the sight of my daughter's mangled body. these feelings may explain to an extent what motivated Palfrey's mother to bring her lawsuit.

[eshfemme]

48. I'm sorry that you had to go through that.

I believe too that the mom's lawsuit is out of good intentions as in she didn't want the pictures of her daughter's dead body disseminated for everyone's morbid interest regardless of the question of whether it was a suicide or not. You have to admit that death always brings out the strange and for a mother who just lost her child, no matter how infamous, it would just be unbearable to see her child be subject to more ridicule/humiliation after death.

[glowing]

4. DC Madam's laywer wants info out and released..

Mom's got some money and is trying to fight the records being distributed.

DC Madam's laywer filed motion to stop the first motion.

AND a whole lot of Politicians are shitting bricks.. Let's hope the laywer isn't found in an "apparent suicide".

[truedelphi]

8. Thank you both and

I hope there are no more "Indian Reservation style" suicides involved here either.

[BB1]

36. I suppose I know what you mean by

'Indian Reservation style' suicides. However, I come from across the pond, and we don't have any Indians here, and for sure no such incidents. (Oh, we have 'incidents', even in Holland - Pim Fortuijn)

Could you explain the phrase to me, or provide me with a link to some article that explains it?

[truedelphi]

46. Read Peter Mathiessen and his book on Leonard Peltier

"In the Spirit of Crazy Horse"

Indian Suicide is when anyone living on a "rez" would find a relative who had died. They would have bruises all over their body, broken bones and let's say, forty two stab wounds on their back - but the officials would rule it a "Suicide."

If you ever catch the movie "Mississippi Burning" you will see that the same harsh sorts of treatments applied to blacks in the South - they were "suicided" for being "uppity," although it was just as commobn for the blacks to be lynched as to be suicided.

American History is a history of shame.

[BB1]

60. Cheers!

We learn something new every day. But what's the correct term? 'Indian Style Suicide'? Or would 'Racial Suicide' fit the description?

[mzmolly]

23. I think I'd do some research on the "lawyer" involved?

eom

[truedelphi]

47. Oh mi gawd NO!

Someone a few comments down explains who SIbley is.

GR-R!!

[hvn_nbr_2]

11. Re: the California ballot proposition...

You forgot to mention that the advertisements advocating a "yes on no to make maybe a yes" are claiming that that really means "no on no..." and they're telling you that 10 times an hour on every TV and radio station and four billboards per mile on every road that has at least two cars passing per day.

[truedelphi]

61. It's a shame that so many good ideas get co-opted.

I once liked the notion of propositions, but now I really hate them.

[CLG_News]

15. Links w. in the original detail relevant info:

Links are within the article:
http://www.legitgov.org/dc_madam_update_100808.html

[jeanruss]

5. same reporters

The same reporters(Brian Ross at ABC) that are savaging John Edwards were mum on Dick Cheney frequenting Pamela Martin. These reporters are such hypocrites.

[progressoid]

6. If he's a lawyer he should have it in writing.

Otherwise it's his word against the Mother.

[dothemath]

38. the mother has no standing ....................

In this country, anyone can sue anyone else for anything at any time. That does not mean the lawsuit has merit. Any competent judge would so rule.

Unless the mother can produce a document, such as a POA, will, contract, etc., giving the mother domain over specific personal items having nothing to do with the mother, the mother has no legal standing to ....... oh oh ........ . Does the mother have something to hide? Oh boy.

Time for another cup of coffee. Let's leave it at 'somebody else just got Wellstoned' and move on.

[Octafish]

9. Cliff Baxter... James Hatfield... David Kelly... John Kokal...

What a coincidence! Whenever Bush and his cronies need a suicide, it happens.

[BrklynLiberal]

10. and the anthrax "terrorist", Dr Ivins should be added to that list.

[Octafish]

50. Frank Olson, too. Dr. Olson was a CIA scientist specializing in bacteriological warfare...

...He didn't like the NAZI turn the agency was taking in 1953. One of his "colleagues" fed him LSD at a work function. Unaware of what had been done, he experienced difficulties concentrating over the next two weeks. The agency told him to take a room in a NYC hotel. He did and fell to his death -- the CIA said "suicide." It turns out, someone phoned out from that room a few seconds later and said, "It's done." Years later, the family sued the government under FOIA and discovered the story. President Jerry Ford, Rumsfeld and Cheney got them $750,000 to stop their inquiry into the wrongful death. Here's more on a great American:

Know your BFEE: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ford Covered Up CIA Murder of American Scientist

And I agree with you, BrklynLiberal: Dr. Ivins should be on the list. If he was under suspicion as long as the FBI says, they'd have revoked his security clearance a long time ago.

[Whisp]

31. Gary Webb.

[Octafish]

51. Steven Carr

Carr was one of five mercenaries arrested by Costa Rican officials in connection with Iran-Contra. The guy decided to cooperate, rather than spend five years in prison. He was found dead shortly thereafter.

Cocaine Politics

By Kathy Mitchell
February 1992; pages 14-15; Volume 3, No. 3
Polemicist

COCAINE POLITICS
By Peter Dale Scott and
Jonathan Marshall
Berkeley: University of
California Press
1991, 279 pp.

EXCERPT...

Silencing the Opposition

However, they do remind us that the Institute is not guilty of bringing unfounded charges. The Institute filed suit in the spring of 1986, but by December its witnesses had been effectively silenced. The central witness, Jack Terrell, backed off from earlier sworn testimony on the advice of his lawyers, who feared that Terrell himself would be indicted by the Justice Department. King waived use of transcripts of his first sworn testimony, because they had been reprinted as a Christie Institute publication.

Terrell first testified as a defense witness in a Costa Rican libel suit sworn by John Hull against journalists Martha Honey and Tony Avirgan after they broke the story of the Pastora assassination attempt. The judge in that case dismissed all libel charges, and Terrell became a key witness in the Institute's counter charges. Brought to Washington from New Orleans by members of Massachusetts Democratic Senator John Kerry's staff, then investigating the Contra gun-running cover-up centered in Miami, Terrell became an important witness for the Kerry Commission and source for press reports on CIA-drug connections. He also became a target for Lt. Col. Oliver North's National Security Council (NSC), as the book details.

Using the almost unlimited powers of his position as head of the secret counter-terrorism unit, the Operations Sub-Group (OSG), North placed Terrell under constant surveillance while attempting to prove that he had threatened to kill President George Bush, according to Scott and Marshall.

Documented with footnoted newspaper accounts, studies and interviews, the book describes the fate of other witnesses. Terrell's friend Joe Adams faced indictment by the FBI, although he was a witness in one of the Bureau's own cases. Steven Carr, who claimed to have actually seen cocaine during an arms transfer, was found dead in December 1986, amid press accounts, later proven false, that he had swallowed large amounts of cocaine. Three autopsies concurred that no cocaine had been ingested, although they could not agree on a cause of death. Jesus Garcia, another key witness for the Kerry Commission, stopped talking after a bomb exploded outside his family home.

With this unequal fight in mind, we see why the authors have taken such an uncritical stance on both the Institute and the Kerry Commission's report. They note that the report, "nearly unassailable, but incomplete," suffered from the constraints of time and "politics." Although Sen. Kerry's agreement with Senator David Boren, D-Okla., of the Intelligence Committee eliminated any serious investigation of CIA proprietary companies, they credit the Kerry Report for a number of significant findings - among them that John Hull, a "central figure in Contra operations on the Southern Front," was involved in cocaine trafficking. This book fills in many gaps in the Kerry Report, particularly surrounding the CIA. They might at least have mentioned that the report came out right after - rather than right before - the election of our CIA President, George Bush.

CONTINUED...

http://www.utwatch.org/archives/polemicist/vol3no3_cocainepolitics.html

Agree completely, Whisp. Gary Webb was a great man.

Know your BFEE: Oliver North, Drug Dealer


A whole bunch of DEA agents agreed with Gary Webb.

DEA Agents Agree: CIA means Cocaine Importation Agency

[bagrman]

57. Sorry whats BFEE, and where did they bring the coke into the counrty?

[katukov]

32. Convenient suicides

That's a lot of convenient suicides.

I would be very suspicious in particular of Dr. Ivins' suicide.

[Octafish]

52. Danny Casolaro

Casolaro was tying together the BCCI scandal, Arab Oil, about every major treasonous and criminal conspiracy stretching from Dallas to Watergate to Iran-Contra to arming Iraq to CIA drugs when he set off to West Virginia to meet with someone who was going to clue him in on the INSLAW - PROMIS affair. He was found dead in a West Virginia motel bathtub with his wrists slashed and a smashed bottle of wine on the floor. His body was embalmed without notifying next-of-kin. Case Closed: Suicide. Here's some backgroundand and a link to a GREAT resource for those who may just be learning about the BFEE, or The Octopus:

The Strange Saga of BCCI

"The Bank of Crooks and Criminals International"

Sightings from The Catbird Seat

From The Outlaw Bank, by Jonathan Beaty & S.C. Gwynne:

THE DEVIL'S PAYMASTER

EXCERPT...

Less than two weeks later a similar story hit much closer to home. On August 10, a Washington, D.C., freelance writer named Danny Casolaro, who had also been working on BCCI as part of a larger story, was found dead in a Martinsburg, West Virginia, motel room. He was discovered in a bathtub surrounded by a pool of blood.

Though it was immediately ruled a suicide, there were enough unanswered questions that the press jumped all over the story. He had supposedly killed himself by slashing his wrists - except that the cuts had been phenomenally deep, all the way through the tendons. There was also evidence that someone else had been in the room with him.

"It looked like someone tried to wipe up the blood on the floor and slid the towels under the sink," one of the motel's housekeepers said in a magazine interview.

"It looked like someone threw the towels on the floor and tried to wipe the blood with their foot, but they didn't get the blood, they just smeared it on the floor."....

CONTINUED...

http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/BCCI.htm

PS: A most hearty welcome to DU, katukov.

[Whisp]

56. Dead Microbiologists

Here is at least a partial list of dead microbiologists:
 
July 18, 2003: Dr. David Kelly, a British biological weapons expert
 
June 24, 2003: Dr. Leland Rickman, a UC San Diego expert on infectious
diseases
 
November 12 2002: Dr. Benito Que, 52, was "an expert in infectious
diseases and cellular biology at the Miami Medical School
 
March 25, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Steven Mostow, 63
 
March 24, 2002: Dead microbiologist: David Wynn-Williams, 55
 
February 28, 2002: Two dead microbiologists in San Francisco,Tanya Holzmayer, 46, is shot and killed by a colleague, Guyang Huang, 38, who then apparently shot himself.
 
February 11, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Dr. Ian Langford, 40
 
February 9, 2002: Dead microbiologist: Victor Korshunov, 56
 
January 2002: Two dead microbiologists: Ivan Glebov and Alexi
Brushlinski
 
December 14, 2001: Dead microbiologist: Nguyen Van Set, 44
 
December 10, 2001: Dead microbiologist: "Dr. Robert Schwartz, 57
 
November 24, 2001: Three more dead microbiologists: Dr. Yaakov Matzner,
54, dean of the Hebrew University school of medicine; Amiramp Eldor,
59, head of the haematology department at Ichilov Hospital in Tel Aviv
and a world-recognized expert in blood clotting; and Avishai Berkman,
50, director of the Tel Aviv public health department and businessman
 
November 21, 2001: World-class microbiologist and high-profile Russian
defector Dr. Vladimir Pasechnik, 64
 
November 16, 2001: Dr. Don Wiley, 57
 
November 6, 2001: Jeffry Paris

--
no link as probably the site I found this on isn't allowed here but that's the first google hit I got.
some info may be wrong or updated, but the gist is there and cannot be unremembered.

[katandmoon]

12. Was just thinking about her the other day in light of Ivins...thanks for

posting this.

[Hawkeye-X]

13. SIBLEY!?! THE SAME SIBLEY THAT'S SUSPENDED?

Oh man, oh man. He's the same moron lawyer that represents Larry Sinclair!

Hawkeye-X

[CLG_News]

14. He's appealing the suspension - and...

can practice in NY and other states.
(As to Sinclair, one can't help one's client list, lol!)

[mzmolly]

18. One can't help one's client list?

In a civil case? When did that start?

[mzmolly]

24. Yes indeed.

Thanks for noticing. :hi: This "attorney" referred to Democratic Underground as "DemoNcratic Underground" in a pending court matter. I hope we'll be more cautious here at DU before promoting any talking points put out by this particular person?

[crimsonblue]

16. it's too bad sibley is illegally practicing law

he's suspended by both the Florida and DC bars

[bluesmail]

17. That there's a functioning interrogation room

downstairs in our White House. To get access to the videos would be parallel to being a fly on the wall.

[originalpckelly]

19. They Monroed her.

Knew too much about too many important politicians. Who did it? More like who wouldn't have.

[mzmolly]

20. Are we to take his word for it?

From the article: Citing his obligation to discharge explicit instructions from his former client, Jeane Palfrey, the so-called DC Madam, to "fully investigate and reveal the circumstances of her death if deemed a suicide by authorities," her attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, has moved to intervene in a lawsuit filed by Jeane's mother, Blanche Palfrey. That lawsuit seeks to prevent the Tarpon Springs, Florida Police Department from releasing information requested by Sibley pertaining the investigation of Jeane's death on May 1 of this year.

One has to wonder why the Mother is preventing him for access to info from the investigation?

[WeDidIt]

22. With Sibley involved, there is no cerdibility n/t

HE'll show up to any meetings wearing a kilt because his balls are too big.

[Name removed]

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[Canuckistanian]

26. As an aside - whatever happened to DUer Lori Price?

She used to be a regular poster here. I think her name was LoriPriceCLG.

[defendandprotect]

27. Jeane Palfrey doesn't sound like she was going to commit suicide . . .

no matter what ---

Meanwhile, who has control over the list of customers?

How much of that has been released?

[riverdeep]

29. That list needs to be released.

And before the upcoming elections. My guess is there are some pretty big names on there (cough-Cheney-cough). Don't forget Senator "Diaper" Vitter never had to testify. Maybe we can call it a matter of national security to expedite the process.

[autorank]

30. There seems to be an acceleration in the pace of "self infliced"

disappearances from the scenes. Then there are those who insist on distracting from the substance
by concentrating on the bios of lesser players.

It's going to be a fun 90 days or so before the results of the elections are revealed. Maybe
somebody could leak those early and save us all a lot of worry.

[Lasher]

33. Wonder why the mother doesn't want this released?

Maybe sell the rights to the highest bidder?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

54. How about the fact that she is an elderly woman and perhaps someone threatened her?

[Lasher]

58. Maybe, Ommm

But I think the greed thing is at least as likely. And these two possibilities are not mutually exclusive.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

59. Her mother is in her 80s and from the way jeane seemed to care about her, I think greed has nothing

to do with it.

[meowomon]

34. I Know

My spidey sense tells me there is way more to this than we know yet.

[blogslut]

35. This case never made sense to me

The woman was supposedly in business for 13 years and only managed to make two million dollars? She was small potatoes. Why did the Feds go after her? Maybe she was just a terrible business person who wasn't very good at hiding her tracks.

[Sanity Claws]

37. Why would the mother sue to keep the list out of the public?

Also, who is funding the lawsuit? Lawsuits cost money. Was the mother a wealthy woman?

[mzmolly]

43. I think she's suing to keep a certain person from capitalizing on

her daughters death?

[barbtries]

39. murdered!

she was murdered. it is shocking how many "suicide" victims were privy to information that could embarrass and/or threaten people in high places. i hope the lawyer prevails and all the information comes out.

[windoe]

41. Body count is getting up there....

http://www.bushbodycount.com/
(site takes a long time to load)

edited to add: Now I am having problems accessing this site.

[yy4me]

42. yup, this page cannot be shown. hmmmmmmm!

[barbtries]

45. there's a geocities page:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bush_body_count.htm

got it off a google search. i wonder if the other page committed suicide. it didn't work for me either

[Hidden Stillness]

49. Clearly Suspicious as a Murder, by Timing Alone

This is a very strange and scary case; it was covered for several programs on Nancy Grace when it happened. She had been fighting the case the entire time, her appeals were nowhere near exhausted, she was facing minimal prison time and had actually been to prison before, she was cooperating and using that as leverage--yet suddenly, just before she was to testify publicly and name names, she is "so fragile" that she can't stand the prospect of going to prison, which was not even imminent. This was another one of the prostitution rings associated with Republican Sen. Vitter of Louisiana--still in Congress!--and there were already revealed client lists including the Bush Administration and the Dept. of "Homeland Security." I believe when she was murdered, she was to have testified only a couple of days later.

Even more shocking and creepy was the fact that she supposedly "committed suicide" by hanging herself, a mode of suicide so rare, even unheard of, for a woman, that no one on the Nancy Grace panel could think of another example of it. Even worse--this was the SECOND woman from the same D.C.-Congress-Bush Admin. prostitution investigation to have "committed suicide" by hanging herself! Outrageous and evil. It reminds me of a story that was going around some five or six years ago, or so, about a rape victim of George Bush's from years earlier, who ALSO suddenly "committed suicide" just before a trial was to start.

I am no longer even slightly surprised at these things; just consider the way the Anthrax non-investigation is going.

[bertman]

63. Did I read that right, Hidden Stillness? "a rape victim of George Bush's from years earlier".

More information, please. I'm not familiar with this.

I knew Laura ran over her boyfriend, but I didn't know George raped somebody who "committed self-hanging".

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

53. It sounds like someone got to her Mom, doesn't it? I heard Jeane say she would Never kill herself

and I still don't believe she did.

[bluesmail]

55. Killing is fun! * on BushbodyCount. ugh look out I'm about to

:puke:

[AuntPatsy]

62. I recall this bit of news at the time of her demise, and no suprise the information

was easily once again ignored...