Wow! Edwards had an affair an adult woman? He's supposed to target children!

[devilgrrl]

What kind of politician is he?

:sarcasm:

[TheWraith]

1. He says the kid's not his.

The argument in favor of that, absent paternity testing, would be that if it is his he'd be better off saying so now instead of having it come out later and reignite the story.

[Medusa]

5. Yeah he also claimed originally he hadn't screwed this woman either

I'm not buying anything he has to say ever again.

[TheWraith]

79. The issue is damage control, though.

As long as he's admitting to the affair, if the kid is his, he'd be best off saying that right away, and letting the whole thing burn off all at once.

Not saying that's bulletproof, or that he'd necessarily listen, but there's that argument.

[arthritisR_US]

2. may not be to you but I sure feel for his wife. He can't bring himself to

support gay marriages and says marriage is only a union with a man and a woman ...well shit maybe what he meant is between a man and a womEn. I find his hypocrisy disgusting.

[nels25]

3. Ahem

as a matter of fact it is.

And I have no sarcasm.

You and me both know that if it was Romney or Huckabee we would be chortling and having a grand old time with the news.

All I ask is a consistent reaction to this type of news.

If it is to be left alone as a private matter between the parties involved then so be it.

But that should hold true for both political parties.

If it only holds true for us Democrats, then I have a personal problem with that stance.

And I believe in the long run it does damage to our party.

Remember some day when we are in power we will be confronted with serious wrong doing by one or more of our own (that is simply human nature) and since we raised such holy hell about GOP abuses of power (legitimately) we had better damm well be ready to act in a consistent manner when one of our own crosses the legal/ethical line.

This is all I am trying to say.

It needs to be consistent, not oh it's okay because our guy did it, but if the other guy does it nail him to the wall with out mercy.

Think about it.

Thank you for letting me reply.

[geek tragedy]

4. A really stupid, narcissistic, impulsive, selfish one. n/t

[devilgrrl]

6. John Edwards destroyed the sanctity of marriage - how will I ever sleep again?

:boring:

[JanMichael]

7. excuse me; that happened in California a few weeks ago

Edwards can't hurt your marriage; it's already over thanks to non-heterosexual unions.

[Zavulon]

8. So I can assume that when a Republican does the same thing, that'll be okay?

I wouldn't excuse a Repug for this, and I won't excuse Edwards. His wife deserved a lot better than that.

Edwards is a festering piece of fucking shit. To think I supported that asshole in 2004...

[JanMichael]

10. I am sure he is waiting with baited breath for your

forgiveness.

[Zavulon]

18. He's got a long wait ahead of him.

Every time I think of Elizabeth Edwards, I want to smack the shit out of her "husband." Glad you seem to be okay with all of this, though.

[Parche]

11. Why?

He didnt break the law....

its ok to have affairs, its not like the end of the World

:hi:

[Big Blue Marble]

13. You trivialize a situation that could have meant the end of the world.

That is if he had been our nominee and the pukes won. He lied to the American people.
Not a way to gain the confidence of the voters.

You may not care about affairs. They do hurt the families and often cause families to split apart.
Often it is the children who suffer the most. Your callousness is noted.

[Parche]

15. He Never Lied

He just didnt want it to be public knowledge, which it shouldnt be.

He never broke the law

It is between him and his wife

I dont care if every guy in america did the same thing, who cares
there is nothing wrong with that..

:hi:

[renate]

28. of course it's between him and his wife....

I couldn't agree more that it's none of our business--we do know about it now, therefore many of us have an opinion on it, but in a perfect world you'd be right in saying that it ought to be between him and his wife.

But if he'd been the nominee, or the VP pick, this news could have been disastrous for all of us. For the world, even. Of course he didn't want it to become public knowledge. And of course it shouldn't have been. But that's what happens in politics... people look at politicians' personal lives. He was dumb to think this wouldn't become known. And he was irresponsible and selfish to run anyway and to take a chance on destroying the chances of getting a Democrat into the White House. He was irresponsible and selfish to have an affair, too. I disagree with your statement that "there is nothing wrong with that." It is wrong to deliberately choose a course of action that will hurt a fellow human being to the core, particularly when the reasons for the behavior are purely selfish.

(I'm not a prude... if they had an open marriage, that'd be one thing. But I doubt that they do--that'd be SUPER dumb for a politician.)

I understand your point about this being between him and his wife, but I still think he did wrong, in many ways.

[Big Blue Marble]

72. He lied on TV as little oas two weeks ago.

He lied multiple times when directly asked during his campaign.
You are in the dark.

And there is there is plenty wrong with people betraying trusts they have
made with lovers and loved ones. Talk to kids whose parent cheated.
It hurts a lot.

[AngryAmish]

21. He may have broken the law

You can't use campaign funds to advance your sex life.

But, the larger point is: THe fact that a law is broken or not broken is a terrible way to run society or judge morality. It is not illegal to loudly fart during a funeral. But it sure is in bad taste and the person who voluntarily does so should not be applauded.

Likewise, assuming Edwards is telling the truth - now -

he visited an ex-lover at a hotel in the middle of the night while his wife is at home dying of cancer.

Are you OK with that? Or do you find that distasteful?

[Parche]

23. He Who Flatulates In Church Sits In Their Own Pew

Its his life
He will have to deal with that and his wife
Not us
There is nothing wrong with having affairs
its actually fun

:hi:

[AngryAmish]

24. That is where we disagree, my friend

I think someone who cheats on their spouse to be of shabby character (unless it has been agreed to by both parties, then it is just a bad idea).

Cheers!

[StrongBad]

77. There is nothing wrong with having affairs?

Assuming he made a vow to Elizabeth to be faithful, how can you justify him screwing around? Particularly if he was doing this in perhaps her most dire hour of need?

Sorry, it's inexcusable and he's a phony.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

12. It's not your job to excuse anyone.

It's a private deal. You weren't involved OK?

[Zavulon]

17. No, it's not "OK."

He was my first choice in 2004, but I never would have supported him if I knew he was taking frequent dumps on Elizabeth's head. It's a good thing you think it's not my job to excuse anyone, because I'll never excuse that asshole.

[The Straight Story]

9. well, according to your other OP you will sleep fine - with edwards....

:rofl:

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. Oh, you will, don't worry.

With anybody and everybody.

And it's all Edwards' fault.

[JackBeck]

16. It's all that gay marriage popping up around the country that made him do it.

[jonnyblitz]

22. !

:D

[Bright Eyes]

19. This is more important then the Anthrax case.

Which was totally solved, by the way.
:sarcasm:

[Cheap_Trick]

26. And who cares about dead soldiers and civilians in Iraq?

How can we worry about that when Edwards had an affair?

This country teeters on the brink of a major depression, but who cares?


EDWARDS HAD AN AFFAIR!!!!!!



Now that the crackerjack team Bush has solved the Anthrax case, maybe they can find out

Who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong
Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop
Who put the dip in the dip-de-dip-de-dip

Maybe the answer is John Edwards!!!


Another mystery solved by the Scooby gang.


Next......?

[DS1]

20. You could post a dozen more threads on the issue

[devilgrrl]

27. Absolutely. Just as many as there were about his house and hair.

Which means that I have to start at least 55 more threads on the topic.

Why I'd better get cracking huh?

[Peregrine Took]

25. Very cool and snarky! Well done! You are sooooo hip. n/t

[devilgrrl]

Oh, I think you got me on the hip thing.

What's not hip about jacking a moniker from a Tolkien novel?

[devilgrrl]

29. John Edwards is proof that Republicans are more moral! McCain 2008!

Does that work better for some of the people here?

[polichick]

30. It would be great for us if McCain tried to use this, considering his past.

[ingac70]

31. Edwards has hurt and deceived alot of supporters.

Had he gotten the nom we'd be truly fucked... he deserves whatever scorn is heaped upon him.

[Peregrine Took]

36. I have to say my "phony-dar" went off every time I saw him. There was just

something about him that didn't seem right plus that infamous hair combing video was so telling.

The way he was SO obsessed with getting that little wave JUST RIGHT it was downright creepy.

[ingac70]

37. he probably doesn't like his "do" touched...

during sex.

[hopewell1985]

39. I disagree

didn't affect Clinton look at the good job he did

[ingac70]

41. But it effected the 2000 election. n/t

[hopewell1985]

42. Florida

scotus

[ingac70]

43. Al losing states Clinton won...

it shoulda been a landslide.

[hopewell1985]

45. Blame Al

Not Bill

[book_worm]

44. umm, you think if Edwards were to be our nominee and this came out

that he had an affair and possibly an out of wedlock child while his wife was fighting cancer wouldn't hurt us? Dream on.

[hopewell1985]

46. It wouldn't

of come out

[Octafish]

32. Jeff Gannon agrees.

Paging ex-Rep. Mark Foley...

[LittleClarkie]

33. No. Just apply the same standard to both and I'm cool

I will not ridicule one while saying the other is none of our business.

[madinmaryland]

34. What did I miss, because I have no idea what you are talking about.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

40. John Edwards likes the ladies.

[JANdad]

35. How many more threads will you be

starting today on this particular topic?

[madinmaryland]

47. I may beat alot of things to death, but this is not one of them.

Looks like there are going to be a cotillion of these threads.

:grr:

[Blue-Jay]

38. Stop spamming.

[devilgrrl]

48. Too bad John Edwards didn't fess up during the campaign - I still would have voted for him!!!!!!!!

:hi:

[JANdad]

49. 7...now 8...next comes 9

[devilgrrl]

50. I'm sorry, is my sticking up for Edwards too much for you "edwardsguy"?

:cry:

[JANdad]

53. How many threads do you need to make your point

?

[devilgrrl]

58. As many as my mind will think of.

eom

[Freddie Stubbs]

51. Do you beleive that it would have gotten him more votes?

:shrug:

[devilgrrl]

54. Yes, I do.

:hi:

[Freddie Stubbs]

56. So, he just must not be a smart politician, since he wasn't protecting Elizabeth by lying,

as he is claiming that she knew about it long ago. Of course, that is assuming the he is telling the truth now.

[ingac70]

52. His wife is probably not going to live much longer...

and you still would of supported him after he admits to being a horn dog on someone like Elizabeth?

I'm glad that bastard didn't even come close.

[Mass]

55. I certainly hope she has many long and happy years in front of her...

For the rest, I agree.

[Sheets of Easter]

57. Do you have any hobbies?

[devilgrrl]

59. Yes. Responding to your posts.

Beats needlepoint.

[devilgrrl]

60. John Edwards' lying trumps anything the BFEE has done the past 8 years.

9/11, Abramoff, Blackwater... nothing tops this.

What a bottom feeder!

:sarcasm:

[redqueen]

61. That's our LIBERAL media!

:banghead:

[Parche]

62. The A-Bomb Was A Necessary Evil

:hi:

[MannyGoldstein]

63. No

But I think it's pretty awful. Sarcasm aside, how do *you* feel about it.

[malaise]

64. Thank you

Fuck M$M.

[juajen]

65. Bullshit. There is absolutely no comparison. John Edwards never killed anyone.

[Stuart G]

66. Neither did Clinton, with his sexual issues.

Sex sells. Let us see if Mc Idiot and his people pounce on this..After all, he did it too. ..
... I remember Henry Hyde so proud of himself knocking Clinton. He had done the same thing.., in his "younger days" Sad stuff.
........ It is what many people are made of..

[electropop]

69. If it bleeds (or spurts), it leads.

For the same reason people have affairs, people gawk at affairs. It's about a primal instinct.

[Pale Blue Dot]

67. Straw man

A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent (for example, deliberately overstating the opponent's position). A straw man argument can be a successful rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but it carries little or no real evidential weight, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[devilgrrl]

68. This is important - this effects getting food to put on your family - quit trying to pretend

that this is minor!!!!

:sarcasm:

[Pale Blue Dot]

70. Yes, that is another excellent example.

And I'm done with you now. Have fun! :eyes:

[Name removed]

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[Zuiderelle]

73. Whooooa... way to make it personal. You might need to take a break.

[devilgrrl]

75. Oh, so his original comment wasn't personal? Tit for tat.

:popcorn:

[SarahB]

74. Wow, um, good argument.

:sarcasm:

Perhaps turning off the computer and rejoining the real world for awhile would not only decrease your interest in the personal lives of people online, but improve your abilities to debate the merits of actual issues. Why is his (and therefore MY) marital status any of your business?

:wtf:

[devilgrrl]

76. This whole affair reaction is further proof that nothing will change after * is out 1/20/09.

:hi:

[Name removed]

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