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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:17 PM
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Postmodern John McCain: the presidential candidate some Arizonans know — and loathe
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-08-07/news/postmodern-mccain-the-john-mccain-some-arizonans-know-and-loathe/%20/2

Thanks to DailyKos for pointing out this article in the Phoenix New Times by Amy Silverman who's been covering McCain and Arizona politics for 15 yrs. It's a great history detailing the Keating Scandal, McCain using Mo Udall's and Goldwater's good names to further his career then throwing them "under the bus", Cindy's drug addiction and associated fraud and extortion, everything. Very good read and I hope that it gets some MSM coverage.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:47 PM
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1. So far, I have not seen one McCain bumper sticker
in my part of the state (northern-AZ). Maybe it's too early. There has never been that much enthusiasm for him, even among Arizona Republicans. He seems to be Senator only because of the (R) and some sort of entitlement.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 12:54 PM
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2. The irony of "no earmarks" didn't hit me till now. I forgot about CAP
One of the biggest government assistance programs in US history which, as Ms. Goodman points out, is the main reason there's anyone to represent in Arizona.

I've got the article bookmarked so I can go back and read the original stories she linked to. The "Zonies" I know don't think much of McCain either but they're libs anyway.
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:30 PM
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7. I'm in Flagstaff and I have seen more W04 stickers than McCain.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:06 PM
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15. I have, but I've seen more Obama stickers.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:44 PM
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3. I know something came out about Edwards but people need to read this...
so I'm giving myself a shameless kick.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:48 PM
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4. Kick
Also there is a war brewing between Georgia and Russia, but we won't be hearing much about that today either.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:55 PM
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5. It's very disappointing..
One more thing to distract the electorate.

People please read the article. It's much more important than John Edward's love child.

Oh and thanks for the kick.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:29 PM
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6. You are very, very welcome
I'm reading the article now and it is very compelling. I just came back to give your thread another kick and see if anyone else had commented.

I'll check back when I'm done.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:43 PM
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8. Finished!
What a read. Maybe we can kick this more later when and if the Edwards mania dies down.

Hey I like your avatar!!!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:54 PM
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10. I like yours too!
LOL
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:06 PM
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14. God, I love Willie
He is timeless and totally unique.

I recommended this thread to a few people. Hopefully they'll drop by.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:47 PM
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25. Thanks
If you're a Willie fan check out Last Of The Breed. It's a DVD of a live concert from 2007 with Merle Haggard, Ray Price and Asleep At The Wheel backing them up. Those ol' men still got "it". :)
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:55 PM
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28. Thanks
I just added it to my queue. Amazing, some people just don't fade away.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:53 PM
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9. Wish I could give this 20 more recommendations. This article is a must-read!
McCain is a nasty piece of work, isn't he?

And Sam Donaldson and Mike Wallace refusing to cover any negatives on McCain just confirm what we already knew. There IS no so-called "liberal" media.

Amazing that McCain had the nerve to complain that the media "loves" Obama when he's been getting a pass for years.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:57 PM
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11. There is a "liberal media"
because the wingers keep repeating that mantra. I know people who swear that CNN and CBS have a liberal slant.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:02 PM
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12. Well, they are "liberal" in comparison to FOX in that they paraphrase the RNC
talking points while FOX directly quotes them. I guess you can convince the public of anything if you tell a lie often enough.

Thanks for posting this. Shame we can't tear more people away from the sad Edwards story to pay attention to this article. Ton of great information in it that I had never seen before.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:05 PM
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13. Yep - that's my Senator & I will definitely pick up this week's New Times.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:08 PM
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16. I thought of you when I was reading it
The comments at the end are quite interesting as well. The more I hear of him, the worse he sounds. I'm not sure he has ANY redeeming qualities.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:22 PM
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17. You know how he always brags about how he never had one earmark for Az?
That sums it up. He hasn't done a damn thing for this state.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:26 PM
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18. He's too busy running for president every 4 yrs.
Heck he hasn't voted or attended a committee meeting since like April has he? I loved it when Bush praised him for getting the New GI Bill passed when McCain skipped not only the committee meetings but the vote.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:31 PM
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21. That's what I got out that article
Maybe we need more Arizonians speaking up about this "do nothing" senator.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:30 PM
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19. complementary article from Boston Globe, with specific info on his weaseliness
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:33 PM
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22. Thank you
I'm not going to get anything done today, but I'm going to be really informed.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:30 PM
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20. An excellent article
Well worth the read. Shout it from the rooftops!

K & R
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:35 PM
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23. Thank you malaise
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 05:35 PM by XOKCowboy
I'm tryin' to spread the word and to keep everyone's eyes on the prize. I'm watching MSNBC and it's John Edwards as the top news story. Makes ya wanna :puke:.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:37 PM
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24. k&r
Excellent and enlightening article.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:50 PM
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26. k&r for the newsworthy!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:54 PM
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27. Excellent! K&R nt
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:07 PM
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29. Someone posted the article in GDP as well
So hopefully it will get more exposure.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:04 PM
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31. Kick for the evening folks
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:25 PM
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32. Thanks
and by saying so giving it another kick.

Hey it's an informative article... :shrug:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:27 PM
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33. Well, no one can say
we didn't try!

(yet another subtle kick)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:11 PM
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30. kick.nt
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:08 PM
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34. One more kick and I'm off to bed...
It's a great article plus check out the Boston Globe link above also. Our opponent is McCain. Not John Edwards.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 09:41 PM
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35. Good night and
good point!
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:04 AM
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36. Kick & Recommended
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:23 AM
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37. One more kick before I retire!
Hopefully every DU'er will get to read this.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:21 AM
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38. morning kick. nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:48 AM
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39. finished reading it - great piece. nt
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:19 AM
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40. An excellent article that all of DU should read.
k&r

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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:08 PM
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43. TYVM-Doing my best to keep it kicked about the Edwards threads..
Edwards will be out of the news in a couple of days and this is about the person the Repugs think will make a good president.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:53 AM
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41. Wow. Just wow.
He acts like a mobster.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 03:58 PM
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42. The story about him setting up the new governor says a lot about his lack of character
Then to go laugh and brag about it to her friends. What a shithead.

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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:30 AM
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44. Kick !!!
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