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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:13 PM
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Bombing IMPROVED Iraq
Yesterday, Weekly Standard senior writer — and Cheney biographer — Stephen Hayes appeared on CNN and defended the Bush administration’s ineffective reconstruction in Iraq, claiming that the infrastructure there was “deplorable” long before the U.S. invasion:

HAYES: The state of the Iraqi infrastructure before we went in, before we dropped one bomb was deplorable. It was far worse than any damage that we did during the war.

CAFFERTY: Are you suggesting that a five year war has helped things over there?

HAYES: No, I’m not suggesting a five year war has helped things, necessarily, although the reconstruction has. But most of the damage that was done to the Iraqi infrastructure was done well before the U.S. came.

Infrastructure in Iraq certainly wasn’t perfect before the U.S. invasion. But Hayes’s claim that the war had barely any effect is completely false. Some examples:

– Education: According to a 2005 analysis by the United Nations University, since the 2003 invasion, 84 percent of Iraq’s higher education institutions had been “burnt, looted or destroyed.”

– Medical Care: Before the U.S. invasion, there were 34,000 doctors registered in Iraq; an estimated 20,000 have left since then. “It’s definitely worse now than before the war,” Eman Asim, a Ministry of Health official who oversees the country’s 185 public hospitals, told the New York Times in 2004.

– Electricity: Although the average hours of electricity each day across Iraq have increased since the invasion, the number in Baghdad has decreased to 10.6 hours each day, down from 16-24 before the war.

– Oil Production: Since the U.S. invasion, Iraq’s oil infrastructure has been hampered by post-conflict sabotage, with more than 450 attacks on its pipelines. Only as recently as May has Iraq been able to return to its pre-war crude oil production levels.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/07/hayes-iraq-cnn/
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:15 PM
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1. Lower manhattan has much better views...
now that those awful WTC towers are out of the way.

:eyes:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:20 PM
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2. Wow, simply Wow
Hayes' degree of callous stupidity is... quite mind blowing.

Iraq never recovered from the bombing we inflicted in the first Gulf War. To him it's like it never happened.

Then we bombed some more.

I'm not even going to elaborate on the fact that we polluted the Iraqi environment with tons of radioactive depleted uranium. It'll be around for thousands of years.

I guess he figures out that US contractors like Bechtel stand to rake in billions rebuilding the Iraqi infrastructure.


It's ALL about the money, baby

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:33 PM
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5. It's gonna be close
the Wonder Twins of Douchbaggery are going head-to-head for "'bag of the year"

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:29 PM
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3. installed an 18 million hole golf course ...
try NOT to get a hole-in-one ...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:34 PM
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6. It's all win-win
:sarcasm:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:32 PM
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4. With all our infrastructure problems in this country
we could probably use a massive bombing campaign here as well.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 12:48 PM
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7. So, first the head BITCH, babs bush* thinks things are just ducky for the NOLA poor
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 12:49 PM by TankLV
and now this just the LATEST IN A LONG STRING of REPUKE statements that highlight their deepest innermost callous thoughts concerning not only the most unfortunate among us, but anybody NOT LIKE THEM...

and I use the term "bitch" to describe her as a breeding SOW with no other useful purpose, only that both bitches and sows in the animal world have purpose, she doesn't...
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:10 PM
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8. Much improved waterboards and "rape-rooms" I guess?
Sharper drill bits too?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:49 PM
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15. Only if you're a RW soldier, and the rapee is
a 14-year-old girl who is going to see her family shot to death in front of her ...
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:15 PM
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9. These people do not exist in the same universe as the rest of us.
They live in a fantasy world of unicorns & gumdrop trees.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:20 PM
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10. The "Weakley Sub-Standard" didn't have a clue what conditions
were like in pre-war Iraq, because they were listening to that fraud Ahmad Chalabi.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:27 PM
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11. DaAmn. And I say again for emphasis...DaAmn
My body just recoiled.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:29 PM
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12. I guess it's all about perspective..

The Greatest Story Never Told
Finally, the U.S. Mega-Bases in Iraq Make the News
By Tom Engelhardt
TomDispatch
June 15, 2008
Think of this as the greatest American story of these years never told -- or more accurately, since there have been a few reports on a couple of these mega-bases -- never shown. After all, what an epic of construction this has been, as the Pentagon built a series of fortified American towns, each some 15 to 20 miles around, with many of the amenities of home, including big name fast-food franchises, PXes, and the like, in a hostile land in the midst of war and occupation. In terms of troops, the President may only have put his "surge" strategy into play in January 2007, but his Pentagon has been "surging" on base construction since April 2003. Now, imagine as well that hundreds of thousands of Americans have passed through these mega-bases, including the enormous al-Asad Air Base (sardonically nicknamed "Camp Cupcake" for its amenities) in the Western desert of Iraq, and the ill-named (or never renamed) Camp Victory on the edge of Baghdad. Troops have surged through these bases, of course. Private contractors galore. Hired guns. Pentagon officials. Military commanders. Top administration figures. Visiting Congressional delegations. Presidential candidates. And, of course, the journalists. It has been, for instance, a commonplace of these years to see a TV correspondent reporting on the situation in Iraq, or what the American military had to say about Iraq, from Baghdad's enormous Camp Victory. And yet, if you think about it, that camera, photographing ABC's fine reporter Martha Raddatz or other reporters on similar stop-overs, never pans across the base itself. You don't even get a glimpse, unless you have access to homemade G.I. videos or Pentagon-produced propaganda. Similarly, last year, the President landed at Camp Cupcake for a meeting with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki with reporters in tow. You could see shots of him getting off the plane (just as he does everywhere), goofing around with troops, or shaking hands with the Iraqi prime minister but, as far as I know, none of the reporters with him stayed on to give us a view of the base itself.

Imagine if just about no one knew that the pyramids had been built. Ditto the Great Wall of China. The Hanging Gardens of Babylon. The Coliseum. The Eiffel Tower. The Statue of Liberty. Or any other architectural wonder of the world you'd care to mention. After all, these giant bases, rising from the smashed birthplace of Western civilization, were not only built on (and sometimes out of bits of) the ancient ruins of that land, but are functionally modern ziggurats. They are the cherished monuments of the Bush administration. Even though its spokespeople have regularly refused to use the word "permanent" in relation to them -- in fact, in relation to any U.S. base on the planet -- they have been built to long outlast the Bush administration itself. They were, in fact, clearly meant to be key garrisons of a Pax Americana in the Middle East for generations to come.
And, not surprisingly, they reek of permanency. They are the unavoidable essence -- unless, like most Americans, you don't know they're there -- of Bush administration planning in Iraq. Without them, no discussion of Iraq policy in this country really makes sense. And that, of course, is what makes their missing-in-action quality on the American landscape so striking. Yes, a couple of good American reporters have written pieces about one or two of them, but most Americans, as we know, get their news from television and -- though no one can watch all the news that flows, 24/7, into American living rooms, it's a reasonable bet that a staggering percentage of Americans have never had the opportunity to see the remarkable structures their tax dollars have paid for, and continue to pay for, in occupied Iraq.

This is the sort of thing you might expect of Bush-style offshore prisons, or gulags, or concentration camps. And yet Americans have regularly and repeatedly seen what Guantanamo looks like. They have seen something of what Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq looks like. But not the bases. Perhaps one explanation lies in this: On rare occasions when Americans are asked by pollsters whether they want "permanent bases" in Iraq, significant majorities answer in the negative. You can only assume that, as on many other subjects, the Bush administration preferred to fly under the radar screen on this one -- and the media generally concurred. And let's remember one more base, though it's never called that: the massive imperial embassy, perhaps the biggest on the planet, being built, for nearly three-quarters of a billion dollars, on a nearly Vatican-sized 104-acre plot of land inside the Green Zone in Baghdad. It will be home to 1,000 "diplomats." It will cost an estimated $1.2 billion a year just to operate. With its own electricity and water systems, its anti-missile defenses, recreation, "retail and shopping" areas, and "blast-resistant" work spaces, it is essentially a fortified citadel, a base inside the fortified American heart of the Iraq capital. Like the mega-bases, it emits an aura of American, not Iraqi, "sovereignty." It, too, is being built "for the ages."
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/bases/2008/0615nevertold.htm


Military
Iraq Facilities

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/iraq.htm

They're Staying in Iraq
by Kevin Zeese

The message is clear. Indeed, it's gigantic for all Iraqis, for the entire world to see. A 100 acre compound – ten times the size of the typical U.S. embassy, the size of 80 football fields, six times larger than the UN, the size of Vatican City. The US Embassy Compound, in the middle of Baghdad – the center for US domination of the Middle East and its resources.

The compound towers above the Tigris River like a modern fortress. It will have its own sources of power and water and sit in the heart of Baghdad. If there is any thought that the US is planning on leaving Iraq, the new embassy should make it clear "We're staying!"
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/zeese.php?articleid=8885



Jacob Silberberg / AP
The swimming pool at Balad air base seen through the window of a Blackhawk helicopter in August.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:32 PM
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13. "deplorable" meaning, public owned.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 01:37 PM
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14. I want to carpet bomb this fucker's neighborhood and see how he likes it
I want him to pick his grandmother's remains out of the piles of concrete and rebar. I want him to hold dying children. I want him shell shocked, and numb.

These fucking rat bastards are so far removed from reality.
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