Tom Foreman, on CNN, keeps referring to the Tax Foundation as 'non partisan.' he's a LIAR. let him

[Gabi Hayes]

know.

I googled it, and it's staffed with people like THIS guy. check his background

Joseph Henchman
Tax Counsel

has previously worked as press/policy aide to former baseball commissioner Peter Ueberroth in the historic 2003 California recall election, and has interned at the Office of the DC Attorney General and (as a 2004 Koch Summer Fellow) Citizens Against Government Waste. In 2008, he completed the year-long Koch Associate market-based management program.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/staff/show/88.html

The Koch Foundation is an arm of Koch Industries, an oil company, which is the LARGEST privately owned company in america, and one of whom is married to Bush's sister
..............


if you wiki it, you'll see that almost every single related site at the bottom of the page is also another RW front group

yet Foreman uses this group, which celebrates things like Tax Freedom Day, on his hit job WRT Obama's energy policy, citing many misrepresentations in it, while using the same foundation to superficially laud McCain's reference to the US as the second highest corporate taxing country in the world

well, DICKhead, you forgot to mention that little thing called loopholes, or deductions, or amortization, or capital depreciation. stuff like that which allows most big corporations to end up paying almost NO taxes! how stupid do you think we are?

I really hate that slimey prick

here's the Tax Foundation website.....non-partisan

what a fucking LIAR!!!!!

http://www.taxfoundation.org/


Let Anderson Cooper know what a freaking liar he has working for him, and why NOTHING he says can be trusted:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?10

[Gabi Hayes]

1. this Foreman creep is SUCH a baldfaced LIAR! read this:

http://lvmedia.blogspot.com/2006/10/misleading-tax-story-in-morning-call.html

The Tax Foundation is a "non-partisan tax research group" in the same sense that Swiftboat Veterans for Truth is an independent citizens group.

The Tax Foundation is a notorious, right-wing anti-tax club founded in 1937 by business magnates upset with FDR's New Deal. As you can read here (http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientgrants.php?recipientID=699)

and here (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tax_Foundation),
the group is almost entirely funded by big business and right-wing foundations.

The group sponsors the so-called Tax Freedom Day--the date when, if our whole check were going to taxes, we would clear our burden--and promotes the hell out of it.

As a quick Lexis-Nexis search shows, the group is almost always labeled "conservative" or "right-wing" when its figures are used in news stories. Not at the Morning Call.

The label is crucial, of course, because readers need to know whether the source of an article's data is truly in it for "non-partisan research" or if--as in this case--the group's explicit mission is to raise America's "tax consciousness" so that we can roll back the few social programs that remain from that despised New Deal. The group has a right to air its views, but the Call has an obligation to let its readers know who's paying their bills and what the funders expect in return.

[Gabi Hayes]

6. this site shows the who's who of RW billionaires who comprise the donors to the Tax Foundation

http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientgrants.php?recipientID=699

the more I find out about this 'nonpartisan' group, the angrier I get

nonpartisan, as David Ickes is nonpartisan, right? and just about as noncrazy....

[Monk06]

2. Your absolutely right it doesn't matter how high the tax rate for the rich is if they don't pay

If the don't have enough domestic loopholes
the sneak their money offshore to Guernsey,
the Isle of Man or the Cayman Islands.

Where are Haliburton's and Black Water's
tax jurisdictions? The Cayman Islands where
there is no direct taxes on capital or restrictions
on capital movement.

[Gabi Hayes]

3. this was their FACT CHECK segment, too, which I forgot to mention

how can you believe anything they say if they can't even tell the truth about the provenance of their FACT CHECKING RESOURCES

why did they have to LIE about Tax Foundation being nonpartisan, when it was founded by rich assholes in 1937 who got mad for having to actually pay taxes under FDR

hope somebody lets CNN know that not all their viewers are credulous, benighted gobswallowers; that they know they're being lied to on a very fundamental level

Anderson Cooper, you twit....it's your show. did you bother to ask that RW cretin, Foreman, exactly what the Tax Foundation really is, and WHERE they get their money?

odd that they don't mention that on their website anywhere. wonder why that is.....

[Monk06]

8. Anytime you see a Foundation devoted to tax reform or tax payer rights.

you can safely assume it's a RW lobby group
using tax their ill deserved tax exempt status
to guess what? ..... provide yet another tax
haven for their already rich non-tax paying
contributors.

[Gabi Hayes]

4. hey, tom! change your name to DICK. how much money did the Koch 'charitable' Foundation

give to the Tax Foundation?

http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientfundergrants.php?funderID=9&recipientID=699

this is just for 2001-02. you can be sure that they're covering up for what they gave them since then. these groups hate to have the light of day shed on their sleazy connections

[Gabi Hayes]

5. Tax Foundation says the poor don't pay ENOUGH taxes!

Often it is possible to discern how the timing of a "Mighty Wurlitzer" chorus relates to a planned conservative policy initiative. A recent example is the flurry of articles that hit the press starting in late November, originating from the Heritage Foundation, Americans for Tax Reform and the Tax Foundation, which claimed that the poor do not pay enough income taxes.

The Wall Street Journal even referred to the poor as "lucky duckies." The paper did not mention that poor people do pay Social Security taxes. The publicity appears to have been timed to the release of the president's latest tax-cutting program.(3)


http://hnn.us/articles/1244.html

[MrMonk]

7. I'm still stuck on the revelation, that one of the Tax Foundation lackeys

is named "Henchman".

[ConsAreLiars]

9. That lying shithead, apart from being an irritating asshole, once claimed that both Gore and Rush

Oxycontin had both been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. He was so proud of discovering this "equivalency" through some crap email or whatever that he mentioned it three times in the same hour when he first got a fill-in show on CNN. This was a week or two before the prize was awarded.

A total sick stupid ignorant contemptible lying shill and a willing whore for the worst deviants in this country. He swallows shit, and then gets paid to spew shit.

[Gabi Hayes]

10. and, what's worse is that he seems to think that he's somehow a comedian!

he finds himself endlessly amusing.....always the self satisfied air about him, like he's in on some joke to which we're not privy

the joke, Mr. Forehead, is the fact that you and the likes of Glenn Beck are employed.

toss in Kitty Pilgrim, or whatever her playmate name is

made the mistake of watching her on Dobbs last night, where they just shredded Obama, using ridiculous statistics, along with snide innuendo to paint him as pretty much not having a chance against McCain....EVERYTHING, all portents were headed in McCain's direction, according to that report!

[KharmaTrain]

11. Hack Or Lazy...You Decide...

Both choices are acceptable as well.

Foreman has always been a stenographer...another face that talks and nothing comes out....just what's prepared for him. He's the type that thinks of politics and serious issues as some kind of "sports"...winners and losers and who is upstaging who.

He's the asshat who proudly hosted "This Week At War"...an attempt to gloss over this regime's corruption and try to glorify a war for profit. He also claimed he was a NOLA native and during Katrina could spew the regime's latest excuse fast enough. IRC, he was one of the biggest screamers about all those vigilantes running wild (translation: blacks).

A horrid corporate media goon...but then he's just one of many that comprise the "best political network on teevee" :puke:

Cheers...

[Freddie Stubbs]

12. You are confusing non partisan with non ideological

[Gabi Hayes]

13. no...you are. do you know anything about them?

On April 15, the Tax Foundation issued a report stating that on average, Americans must work until May 10 to pay taxes. The Tax Foundation computes what it presents as the percentage of income Americans on average pay in taxes and converts this to the portion of the year the average person has to work to pay his or her tax bill. Each year from 1993 through 1998, the Tax Foundation has claimed that the average American's tax rate has increased and "Tax Freedom Day" has been pushed later in the year. In 1998, the Tax Foundation claims Tax Freedom Day is May 10, up from May 9 the previous year.(1)

But the picture the Tax Foundation's reports portray — that the tax burden on the average family is exceptionally high and has been rising — is not accurate. The Tax Foundation's methodology substantially exaggerates the amount of taxes that typical or average middle class families pay. Under the methods the Tax Foundation uses, an increase in taxes solely on high-income taxpayers is pictured as increasing the taxes the average taxpayer pays. This methodology can produce particularly sharp distortions when taxes are raised primarily on affluent taxpayers, as they were under the 1990 and 1993 deficit reduction laws, and when, as at present, large increases in the stock market cause wealthy investors to reap huge capital gains profits and pay more capital gains taxes on them.

The Tax Foundation's methodology errs in other serious ways as well. For example, it counts as taxes items that clearly are not taxes, such as the optional premiums elderly and disabled people elect to pay for physicians coverage under Medicare. Of further concern, the Tax Foundation fails to count as income some of the income on which the taxes it counts are levied. For example, it counts capital gains tax payments as taxes but fails to count as income the capital gains income on which these taxes are levied. The methodological errors the Tax Foundation commits all distort its figures in the same direction — they all make taxes look higher than they actually are.

The tax burdens that the Tax Foundation says the average family bears are much higher than the estimates of the Congressional Budget Office and the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, authoritative institutions headed by Republican appointees. Data from CBO and the Joint Committee on Taxation indicate that for families in the middle of the income scale, federal tax burdens are neither at an all-time high nor increasing.

http://www.cbpp.org/taxday98.htm

did you read their list of 'donors?'

they're ALL RW billionair-backed front groups

[Freddie Stubbs]

14. Non partisan means they do not have a formal alignment with a political party

Yes, those organizations are non partisan. But so is the NAACP.

[Gabi Hayes]

15. wrong again....they have a clear, party-aligned agenda. are you denying that, or just parsing?

at any rate, your parsing is completely incorrect:

partisan>>>''a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person; especially : one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance''

which part of that definition doesn't apply to them?

they're totally aligned with the REPUBLICAN party, and exhibit a completely blind, prejudiced and unreasoning (characterized by their twisting of so-called empirical findings) allegiance to unending tax cuts

[Gabi Hayes]

16. go to their 'donor' list and find me one group that isn't a front for rich right wingers

or corporations that support the Republican Party, and I'll cede your point


http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientgrants.php?recipientID=699

[Freddie Stubbs]

17. You are making the incorrect assumption that Democrats always oppsose tax cuts

[Gabi Hayes]

18. did I say anything about democrats? where'd you come up with that "assumption"

did you check the donor list?

you broached the non-partisan issue

prove to me that Tax Foundation is non-partisan, and I'll happily agree with your point

I don't see them as being anything but totally partisan

[jayfish]

19. Is That From The "Keeping Them Honest" Segment Last-Night?

CNN was on when I got out of the shower and they were running it. I knew what was coming so I pretty much ignored it. I did ask myself, do they run these segments for McCain too?

Jay

[Gabi Hayes]

20. yep, and yep. the McCain segment was backed up by a study from......

the Tax Foundation!

the mendacity of that creep was just stunning. that's why I started the thread

I'm getting even more angry now

time for a black russian? is that coffee? I have Kalua, but no coffee.

[jayfish]

21. So Was McCain Deemed Honest?

Ya know, I don't think I've ever had a real black russian. Kahlua and hot chocolate might be good though.

Jay

[Gabi Hayes]

22. of course he was 'correct.' it was some BS about how taxes are forcing US companies out of the US!

not the fact that they really are leaving to take advantage of the cheapest labor markets possible, with NO concern for the communities they destroy in the process, like Wilmington, Ohio

did you hear that story?

[jayfish]

23. No, I Didn't See It.

I don't watch CNN. It was just on the tube for some reason when I got out of the shower. I knew it was going to be horse-shit as soon as I heard the intro though.

[Gabi Hayes]

24. I was flipping during an Olbermann commercial. don't

watch CNN much at all, because whenever I do, it has crap like this on.

same with MSNBC, except when Abrams/Olbermann are on

everything else is about 75% RW propaganda, and that's being generous

what's nauseating is that, as bad as their coverage is, what they REFUSE to report is the worst part.

nothing at all about Suskind's book, while I saw Fredoso THREE times on CNN/MSNBC yesterday, touting his Obama book

Corsi will be next