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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:48 AM Original message |
"Whole Load Of Crap"-Larisa Alexandrovna Has Low Down On "Therapist" To The Anthrax Suspect |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. Drug and Alcohol "theripist" (sic) with several recent DUIs... |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. How could she know he was gonna be charged before the grand jury |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Apparently all of his neighbors knew that he was being watched. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
98. Just curios; By what stretch would she have access to or know any of his neighbors. nt |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. It sounds like somebody told her that the grand jury would indict him....interesting. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. Her "source" may have been FBI agents who interviewed her. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Exactly. Just as they probably told her that their doctors had |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Yup. The only question is, why are they moving this case now? Leahy? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Well, if what you want is to slow down Democrats |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. It doesn't make sense for BushCo to stir up this shitstorm, now. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. FBI removed contents of Ivins' lab freezer in June. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Should combine timelines for Hatfill, Ivins, Kelly others who worked on US-UK "Iraq WMD" projects |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. We might check Paul Thompson's History Commons. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Please post what you find. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
83. This is the first I've seen of Ivins being involved with the CIA.... |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 07:22 AM Response to Reply #70 |
116. Correction: |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #61 |
94. The statement , "It' doesn't make sense" is all you have to |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 04:49 AM Response to Reply #61 |
115. The FBI has been dragging its feet on this case because... |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yous guys really oughta get paid for this |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. clearly, she is a useful idiot, being used |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. This whole thing is beginning to smell worse and worse |
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Rosie1223 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
6. Thank you Larisa for being a real journalist |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Wouldn't you love to see Larisa get the Pulitzer for her excellent investigative journalism, |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
113. Totally amazing work - rather than a Pulitzer, I'd like to see some heads roll... |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
7. What a witness. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. based on her 'testimony' -- might she deserve 'witness protection' so there is no follow-up now that |
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liam_laddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. Yeah, I'd say in the Maryland mountains... |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
8. If the threats she claimed Ivins made in a group therapy session |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. It's real easy to remember how to spell it. The Rapist = therapist. |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. Duley is a social worker who simply organized and conducted |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Again, I cant wait to see the movie! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Someone who is so easily manipulated probably shouldn't be runnin |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. I really think we need to close this case quickly. Like, NOW! |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. Larisa's at-largely article prior to this one mentioned locations |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. Does KO know about this? |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
15. In the words of Dr. Thompson: "Strange tales from strange times." |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
16. Deffinitely requires another K&R n/t |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
18. Did you see this post? |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. "They offered his son $2.5 M and a sportscar if he would "rat" on his father." |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Exactly |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
110. Gerry Higgins.. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. I found a Gerry Higgins in Silver Spring Maryland |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
63. Imagine what the FBI promised the "estranged" brother --- !!! |
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SpookyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
69. Is that real? |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Sickening, isn't it? Deliberate mental torture. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
120. Remember Gonzales tracked down Ashcroft in his hospital bed---!!! |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
96. Do you have a link to the Gerry Higgins post? |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
19. is she a licensed theripist (sic)? i don't think they teach that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. No, she's not. She earned a certificate to do drug counseling. n/t |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Since many states privatized mental health care, almost anyone can earn such certificates. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I was surprised at how easy it is to get one here. n/t |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes. This woman is no expert. She sounds unstable. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. It's freaky to me that no one questioned her allegations. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. I wouldn't have expected the press to question her allegations! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. But, the judge didn't either at that hearing! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Good point. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
112. I have known quite a few |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
92. Thereipey, Fineanchill advizsing, counsilling |
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Thorandmjolnir (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
20. Enemy Combatant |
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VWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. Nah, they only do that to "brown" people |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
65. The stakes are too high here |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. Wow! We need to keep this kicked. K & R n/t |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
25. Anthrax suspect’s colleague blames FBI for suicide |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Were $$ offered to his kid? |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Get this.... |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Public computers that anyone could use? |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Whos button did Ivins push. bubonic plague? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
66. Re the MSNBC article |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. Very courageous of Byrnes to speak out --- I'm sure they all feel threatened . . . |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
36. Keep digging. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
37. Someone should send this thread to Kieth Olbermann! |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
38. The "NUT" Here Clearly IS NOT Ivins... But DULEY! |
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Dogtown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R n/t |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
41. it is a whole load of crap....bush/cheney are the perps |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
43. Yum. This is like eating cotton candy in my brain. |
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FraDon (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
44. k&r • Did you see the hand writing on the restraining order request |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Irreconcilable differences. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
101. maybe she was in a similar state of mind when she allegedly attacked her husband |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. IMHO, this is a really amateurish cover-up |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. Newspapers are going because no one is reading them -- TV is next . . . !!! |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
46. K&R There are way too many "suicides" connected to |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
48. Wow. |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
49. Anybody else notice what she put down as her "race"? |
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Julius Civitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. Here's her photo, a typical "white asiatic indian arab" person. Sure. |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
91. au contraire |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
106. BSW? |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
74. sounds like she was trying to push all kinds of buttons |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
59. This is a white-hot investigation by Larisa! Go lady GO! |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
62. Grand jury testimony from August 1? What grand jury? |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
73. Thoughts - she's incompetent and ripe for manipulation - the perfect patsy. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. I don't think she's in hiding from the press. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
76. nice job Larisa, kpete, smoking gun, etc. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
77. Easy money bet: a close family member or friend of hers is with The Company. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Do you think so? She just sounds young and easy and stupid.n/t |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
78. I have been subpoena to testify |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
79. May she's been ... |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Either that or she's afraid of being disappeared. |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
107. She's the weak link now |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
81. The brother's interview |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. Of course Daschle isn't buying it. If this is a cover-up, |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #81 |
119. The brother's interview |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
85. K&R, Duley is clearly being propped up and supported to feed the media... |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
88. they want to close the case - sounds like crap to me - lot more behind this but |
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panzerfaust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
89. As a doctor ... |
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Imalittleteapot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
90. Heard her statement on CNN yesterday and wondered |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
93. Maybe the author of the note is actually in the legal profession? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
95. A crock of crapola to cover Ivins being "suicided". |
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gutterpunk (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
97. Regarding the Therapists Spellings...... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
99. Why did she lose her job and HOW THE HELL is she "paying for attorneys"? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #99 |
111. She's had three DUIs in the last several years. Maybe |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
100. Do we have any testimonials about Ivins other than this woman and the |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
102. read the "progress" of this |
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Ima Misfit (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
103. Irwin was committed to the psych ward because he was |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
104. Sheppard pratt??!! OMG that explains alot. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
105. If I was a conspiracy theorist |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #105 |
123. "the anthrax attacks right after 9/11 were mighty convenient" |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
108. This occurred after 9-11, "they" closed the books on that and the only thing remaining was |
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Julius Civitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-04-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
109. WSJ article: "Bruce Ivins Wasn't the Anthrax Culprit" |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #109 |
121. This needs tobe an original post. nt |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
114. kr |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
117. What Ever Happened To Patient/Client Priviledge? |
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Brotherjohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
118. I thought this woman's story sounded WAY too convenient from Day 1. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
122. You have done it again Kpete |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
124. Jean C. Duley is going to end up... |
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