MORE from Dr. Nass on the Duley testimony regarding Ivins! This blog SMOKES!!!

[BeHereNow]

Update for August 3rd, from Dr. Nass on Duley's testimony.
This woman is the Sibel Edmonds on the Ivins case.
http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2008/08/looking-closer-at-jean-duleys.html
Don't let these MSM bastards get away with this!

Intro from her blog update for August 3rd:
(Apparently we are not the only ones who smell a BFEE RAT)

"She claimed, "As far back as the year 2000, the respondent has actually attempted to murder several other people, either through poisoning. He is a revenge killer. When he feels that he's been slighted or has had — especially toward women — he plots and actually tries to carry out revenge killings," Duley said. She added that Ivins "has been forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic, homicidal killer. I have that in evidence. And through my working with him, I also believe that to be very true."

As a physician who is called to assess psychiatric patients presenting to the ER, I find her statements troubling: if any of these psychiatrists diagnosed Ivins as homicidal, that physician would be required to start immediate proceedings for psychiatric hospital commitment. Patients who are a danger to themselves or others must not be allowed to carry out such activities. That is the law.

Furthermore, if Duley believed Ivins had attempted serial murders, she would be required to consult with her supervising physician and immediately call in the police. Was this done? Who was poisoned? If, as reported, she had only been treating Ivins for six months, what evidence did she have of more remote attacks?"

GO DR. NASS!!!!
Add this to the recent Emergent Biosolutions (July 31) bid for anthrax vaccinations
and grab your tin foil.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080731/20080731006601.html?.v=1
"ROCKVILLE, Md.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Emergent BioSolutions Inc. (NYSE:EBS - News) announced today that it has submitted a proposal in response to a request for proposal (RFP) issued by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) for a recombinant protective antigen anthrax vaccine (rPA). Emergent’s rPA vaccine candidate is a reformulated and more stable form of the rPA 102 vaccine originally developed at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) and is well-positioned to be a leading candidate for an award under this RFP. One Phase II clinical trial of rPA 102 has been completed."

Perhaps Ivins knew something about WHY this company shouldn't be awarded the bid?
He was, after all brought in to "fix" some problems with their drug.

BHN

[shireen]

1. this story just keeps getting creepier and creepier.

very chilling. I feel so bad for Ivins's family.

[BeHereNow]

3. Be SURE to read Starroute's post on this creepy vaccine company!

I posted the link in a post below.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

2. Incredible post by Starroute about the Bioport/Emergent/Intervac connection to Ivins

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3719123&mesg_id=3721126

Somehow, I don't think the situation can be fully
investigated with out connecting ALL of the players
and events.

PLEASE take the time to read Starroute's incredible background
on WHO these people are, then look into Ivin's work for them.
And suddenly, he ends up dead, within 24 hours of
their pitch for a HUGE contract?
Methinks he was going to blow the
whistle on why they should not be awarded the bid.
Perhaps because, due to his work with their vaccine,
he KNEW it should not be used on the GP???
I certainly think it possible cause every word printed
about this "suicide" has been beyond fantasy in my book.
AND not ONE news source has mentioned his work
with this company for the military and the related news
from years ago about the vaccines being suspect in ADR
among our troops.
Oh, and they also experimented on unknowing IDF soldiers.
NOW they want to supply the nation with their vaccines?
And Ivins turns up dead?
BHN

[blogslut]

18. That post was deleted

wtf?

[BeHereNow]

21. I'll ask Skinner- No rules were violated.

WTF INDEED.
I find that MORE than interesting.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

22. Just wrote to Skinner and explained the situation.

He's pretty great about following up on such matters.
The information on that link she posted from the archives
was incredible.

Hope someone captured it in case it's been wiped from
the archives too.

I never thought to because there was no reason to
think it would be disappeared.

BHN

[notadmblnd]

23. would it be so strange if the BFEE had their minions performing their antics here?

I've grown so cynical, there's nothing I wouldn't believe about where they'd go or what they'd do.

[BeHereNow]

24. Well, I will say, that thread had some pretty damning stuff in it.

All of it factual.
I checked- as I always do.
BHN:hide:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

4. There is NOTHING that these crooks in power right now would not do.

:kick:

[BeHereNow]

5. More on the BUSH connection to the vaccine manufacturer connected to our troops.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Wellconnected_drug_company_obtained_anthrax_vaccine_0529.html

"Two former high-ranking health officials with close ties to the Bush administration helped a Michigan-based pharmaceutical company secure sole-source, multi-million dollar federal contracts for the purchase of its controversial anthrax vaccine, a RAW STORY investigation has found.

Last month, Emergent BioSolutions announced that the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) intended to purchase more than 18 million doses of its Biothrax vaccine for the Strategic National Stockpile. The strategic stockpile is set aside for civilian use during a large-scale emergency, such as a bioterrorism attack or natural disaster. Once finalized, the contract will be the largest of its kind for Emergent’s anthrax vaccine.

BioThrax is the only FDA-licensed vaccine for anthrax in the United States. The Pentagon has used it for the military’s mandatory anthrax vaccination program for the last ten years, though not without problems. Although the military continues to publicly claim the vaccine is “safe and effective,” thousands of soldiers have suffered adverse reactions, ranging from mild to severe."

Looks more and more like Ivins KNEW the vaccine wasn't safe
and perhaps threatened to blow the whistle on the plan
to give the BFEE cronies the contract because he
KNEW it wasn't safe for the public?

I put nothing past these creatures from hell.

BHN

[KharmaTrain]

8. That's A Track To Follow On Its Own

And probably the one that slips through the cracks. So many are focusing on the attacks to follow through on his work on the vaccine. Chicken Noodle News did report...or should I say, aluded that the reason he sent the anthrax to test to see if his vaccine was effective. I would assume that was leaked to them...but by whom?

This story is starting to go off into several directions that make it confusing...but also we're just starting to learn about someone who we didn't even know existed just a few days ago. I have a feeling there will be more shocking stuff coming up ahead...and, just like you, I'm highly suspicious of this regime and their ability to spin and manipulate these type of stories for their own effect.

Now one more big question. Why was the FBI about to lower the boom now? Or were they? The timing so close to an election had to play into the timing.

[BeHereNow]

25. The boom and the Emergent Bio solutions bid for the HHD national supply.

Unfortunately, the extremely important information about
that has been removed from this thread.

Fact is, The BFEE has some completely nefarious connections
to the company courting the HHD for the contract to stockpile the
national supply.

At the same time the press release is published, Ivins who
worked on fixing problems with the vaccine with the military,
turns up dead.

Connect the dots.

BHN

[Supersedeas]

26. more info that the GoP Media Establishment will not disseminate

[AntiFascist]

27. Remember Gulf War syndrome?

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/anthrax.htm

On edit: this webpage has a long list of links, one of which is this article by Heather Wokusch -
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/anthrax_lies_vaccines.htm

The DoD's handling of the anthrax vaccine has been atrocious. As The Daily Press reported in December 2005, "The Pentagon never told Congress about more than 20,000 hospitalizations involving troops who'd taken the anthrax vaccine, despite repeated promises that such cases would be publicly disclosed." Instead, from 1998 through 2000, "a parade of generals and Defense Department officials told Congress and the public that fewer than 100 people were hospitalized or became seriously ill after receiving the shot."

Even worse, there's been no long-term study of the health impact of anthrax inoculations, and quite conveniently, the quarterly analysis of medical care data for vaccinated service members was ended in 2002. Hard to fault the anthrax vaccine for your physical breakdown when pertinent medical records aren't available.

The vaccine scandal is yet another case of well-connected companies cashing in on non-competitive governmental contracts. The firm responsible for producing the military's anthrax vaccine, for example, has continued to receive hundreds of millions of Pentagon dollars despite being racked with mismanagement and production problems. BioPort Corp didn't even have FDA approval for its vaccine plant from 1998-2002, but continued pumping out unusable batches at taxpayer expense regardless. Similarly, VaxGen, the company contracted to produce 75 million doses of anthrax vaccine for civilian use in case of a domestic bioterrorism attack, has faced serious accounting problems and FDA accusations of making "false or misleading statements" about its vaccine's benefits.

[reprehensor]

6. Thank you.

Good resource.

[druidity33]

7. K&R nt

[Supersedeas]

9. M$NBC just had former prosecutor Karen DeSoto on to bolster Duley: when a therapist reveals

that a client is homocidal, the PUBLIC needs to pay attention.

[mmonk]

10. What would be his motive?

Why key Democrats and media anchors?

[Supersedeas]

17. those facts are sort of consistent with a pre-Iraq War motive, no?

[mmonk]

20. They need not be homicidal. They usually live and get

the Medal of Freedom or something similar or at least a promotion.

[riverdeep]

11. To any screenwriters watching-

there is a movie in here. A really good one. It may be the only way the general public will find out about it. Because the national media are doing their darndest to kill this story. Which is funny, because pretty young white women killed Bermuda or someplace are followed with full resources 24/7.

But what production company would touch it, I don't know.

[Vanje]

19. 'I cant WAIT to see the movie!'

That was my first thought upon reading this thread.

I'd like to see Chris Cooper play the homicidal mad scientist whistle-blower.

,....or...or...OMG! Yes! Even better!....Steve Buscemi!

[Overseas]

12. K&R !

[ljm2002]

13. I wondered that too...

...I mean, I've watched enough teevee and read enough newspaper stories to know that the law requires medical professionals to report stuff like this. So to have these absolutely lurid accusations from a therapist, who herself never did anything about it -- well like everything else about this case, it reeks to high heaven.

[Kip Humphrey]

14. Riiiight... Let me get this straight: a government scientist working with a deadly toxin is diagnose

a sociopathic, serial homicidal killer and allowed to remain on the job???!

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!

[Vinnie From Indy]

15. Amen!

One would think that ANY sane therapist would immediately contact the FBI if her client had access to weapons grade biological agents AND was a homicidal sociopath. This whole thing just doesn't make any sense.

[Norrin Radd]

29. Yep. Smells like bullshit and disinfo.

[blogslut]

16. Does Biothrax still contain squalene?

According to this, it does:

http://www.anthrax.osd.mil/vaccine/facts.asp

[EFerrari]

28. Where is the monitoring doctor?

:shrug:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

30. Sweetheart...

Absolutely NOTHING sounds right about how this was handled, from my experience. Where was the enforced commitment and care? Why is this guys medical history being splattered across the news?

Nope. Nothing right about this at all.

[EFerrari]

31. The very language sounds like someone doing a bad impression

of a mental health professional. What doctor labels his patient a "homicidal sociopath" to hospitalize him?

They're not even trying very hard, imho.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

32. Exactly.

Who uses "sociopath" in an assessment? No one. They would cite specific personality disorders from a DSM-IV. A mental health professional would not waiver in this, either.

Something stinks highly.