Bill Moyers Journal tonight - The Abramoff Scandal

[malaise]

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08012008/profile.html

[HCE SuiGeneris]

1. Thanks!

[BeHereNow]

2. Thanks!

Watching now-
BHN

[aquart]

3. I just can't forgive him.

[malaise]

4. What a scum bag -this is must see TV n/t

[pansypoo53219]

5. revolting

hope those 'CHRISTIANS' go to hell. especially that HOMO ralph reed.

[BeHereNow]

7. Ralph Reed is a despicable piece of work.

As are the rest of this lot.

Excellent Moyers work, as usual.

BHN

[callous taoboy]

13. Seeing him caught up in this is a thing of beauty. He is a reptile.

[callous taoboy]

6. Saw it. Wow. Abramoff stating that Ralph Reed is more crooked than

he and Norquist. How do these S.O.B.s sleep at night? To see the conditions over in the Marianas was very disturbing, and these bastards made millions serving as liaisons between Tan, the sweatshop tycoon, and Delay. Scum-sucking bastards all. I sincerely hope Reed, Norquist and Delay get thrown in the slammer for a good long time. It floored me how Moyers wrapped it up with all three of them just blithely going along with their cockroach affairs.

[malaise]

10. Moyers was excellent as usual

They are scum but there are many others in the Rethug camp.

[callous taoboy]

11. and corruption in D.C. will never end. You watch, in 8 years

there will be small groups of Dems caught up in swindles. "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is how the saying goes, right?

[elleng]

14. Right, and

has been doing so for centuries.

'Small groups of Dems' have prolly been involved in stuff that prevents them from challenging reps on many things, like impeachment for example.

[callous taoboy]

16. ouch, I'd be willing to bet you're correct there.

[malaise]

22. Except that these three scum bags started this

from college days. Delay and others joined the gravy train later. That so few of them are in prison is the big surprise - that and the fact that Delay and Grover are media darlings. :puke:

[callous taoboy]

27. It's their absolute certitude that they think they are right that

I find so sick. Pinheads.

[SharonAnn]

23. Norquist is alive and well and coninuing his "work" in Washington.

[malaise]

25. He's a regular on CSpin's Washington Journal

He should be in prison.

[BeHereNow]

8. Recommend this puppy- everyone needs to see this.

I have a feeling this is just the tip of
the iceberg of corruption in Washington.

Increasingly, I think this is standard operating
procedure in our government.

These guys just got caught at it.

BHN

[malaise]

9. I thought I knew a lot about those goons but my good Fing grief

what a bunch of criminals. I'd like to see the new report because I have the same feeling that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

[callous taoboy]

12. And these crooks STILL think they are doing their god's work. Unreal.

[BeHereNow]

29. Is there a schedule for the new report?

I want to see it too!
Thanks again for posting the link to the program.
Mind boggling, isn't it?
BHN

[malaise]

30. MInd boggling indeed.

I'll search for the report and post a link if I find one.
Don't forget this money was involved from the Florida Recount - aka the coup.

[malaise]

31. Here it is - pdf

http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20080609101725.pdf


From another link
Among those who accepted gifts from Abramoff, the report finds, was Carlos Bonilla, then-Special Assistant to the President for Economic Policy. He currently serves served as an economic adviser for John McCain (there's a line through currently serves). Looks like he no longer serves. hahahahhah.

http://www.democrats.org/a/2008/06/report_details.php

[BeHereNow]

36. Bwahaha...love the way that is edited.

How they crossed out "serves" and replaced it with "served."

Subtle and effective, as in "let's not overlook McCain's ties
to this pack of scum wolves."

BHN

[malaise]

37. That was beautifully done n/t

[elleng]

15. Does it rerun

tonight?

[malaise]

19. You can watch it here

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08012008/watch.html

[elleng]

21. Thanks,

mal!

[BeHereNow]

24. I don't know if it will run again- I watched it from Mal's link.

Truly disturbing look at the corruption
within our government.

And like I said earlier, I would guess
this story barely scratches the surface,
which might very well explain our complicit
congress.

BHN

[malaise]

28. I bet most of them are in bed with the lobbyists

but the K street project was the most orchestrated criminality in recorded history. Sadly I suspect there are Dems who benefited.

[bvar22]

17. 5-Stars....Not to be Missed.

As usual, Moyers puts together an excellent piece.
Moyers is one of the very few Journalists left in America, Inc.

[MJW]

18. Moyers is a must watch

he is always excellent

I can't wait to see this episode, but unfortunately I have it recording at 2am!

[malaise]

20. I posted the online link at #19 n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

26. K&R!

I'll view this tomorrow. Thanks!

[deacon]

32. k + r n/t

[EFerrari]

33. Must see teevee. And, Ralph Reed is hosting McMore events?

Did anybody catch that? :evilgrin:

[malaise]

34. Last night's program was mind blowing

Kick for the morning crowd.

[EFerrari]

38. The Abramoff stuff can get confusing. This program lays it all out

very clearly. I recorded it to watch again.

[DailyGrind51]

35. I actually had to change the channel because I was getting so mad,

I thought I would have a stroke!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

39. Yes, that stuff about the sweatshops on Saipan and how Congressional slimeballs

blocked reforms.

This is the kind of thing the MSM SHOULD be investigating and shouting from the rooftops.

Imagine being trapped on an island, working twelve hours a day, living in a slum, and being paid in checks that bounce. :grr:

But it's more important to keep the nation up-to-date on Britney Spears' custody arrangements.

[Uncle Joe]

40. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, malaise:thumbsup:

[malaise]

42. Anytime Uncle Joe

:hi:

[boomerbust]

41. Delay

Is starting a new foundation also. When does Tommy get his day in court?

[SeattleGirl]

43. Just finished watching this.

All I can do is shake my head.

Yeah, Abramoff is in the tank, but there are so many fucking rats still running around free.

And impeachment is still off the table.

Absolutely unreal, how these assholes get away with so much.

[malaise]

44. Unreal is the only word to use

The criminals are in charge.

[napi21]

45. I watched it this afternoon on Moyers web site. If Moyers and the

people he interviewed knows all this, WHY won't SOMEBODY charge & convict the whole bunch of them? I don't really care who does it! Just SOMEBODY!!!!

[malaise]

46. That's the million dollar question n/t

[napi21]

48. Yea, it kinds blows a hole in the argument that congress can't get

any info out of this admin, doesn't it? I realize this admin tries to hide everything, but Bill got the info SOMEWHERE!

[malaise]

50. Not really true since Bill was able to access

the two Congressional Reports from 2006 and June of this year. I posted a link to the pdf of the most recent one. Of course he tied this unscrupulous and criminal gang together rather well.

[Imagevision]

47. Bill Moyers, brilliant, so many people have forgotten the list of repug "achievements"

over the past 7 years

[SpiralHawk]

49. The k and the r

excellent

[Hidden Stillness]

51. Very Important, Threatening, Confusing Story, Ignored--Except by Moyers

I remember when Bill Moyers had this report on the first time, "Capitol Crimes," a couple of years ago--I had to listen to it very carefully several times, tape it, etc., because it is so convoluted, such a huge web, that I was lost until I got some of it memorized and could think of the parts fitting together. This scum group of "Young Republicans"/corporate lobbyists (Abramoff, Reed, Norquist group) "dismantling Government by selling it off," was I think the way Bill Moyers put it; their ties then to DeLay, the inhuman sweatshop in the Maldives; the ties to corporate lobbyist trips (and the one to Scotland and golf was the one, I think, that helped nab the Republican Ney of Ohio, which then led to another scandal, "Coingate," if you'll recall, another Republican illegal slush fund); then to the abuse of the Native tribes who thought they were paying for lobbying servtices for Indian causes, but were instead funding the Abramoff/DeLay, etc., groups; ties to Russian mobs and more lobbyists; and all the while a barrage of "tax-lowering" pseudo-groups, designed to de-fund and cripple Government, and all of them turning out to be yet more Abramoff/Norquist groups.

When you suddenly go to the islands, Maldives, Saipan, etc., and the "concentration camp" where workers, almost all women from China, are kept under armed guard and abused, then whose checks bounce, (with DeLay controlling the continuing deregulation of its operation, and having fired the Clinton Admin. investigator who was going to make a report on it), it is very confusing, until you get the sense of the whole, huge Republican operation, and how it then connects with redistricting, vote-counts, Rove, and all the rest, and it becomes horrific. YET ANOTHER story bungled and not covered by the corporate media: I'll bet most people are still unaware of the alarming, threatening, huge, interconnected web--right into the White House and involving one wing after another of the Republican Party--that is the entire reason why the Federal Government is still so unable to do anything to stop any corporate crime or corporate welfare, and why they never even relate to us at all anymore, except to throw sales pitches at us. They really were taken over, most are still there, and almost absolutely nothing has happened to any of them.