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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:25 AM Original message |
Orson Scott Card further reveals his whackadoodliness |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. This from a guy who once wrote a book about a giant worm screwing a woman |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Which book was that? |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. Wyrms |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. Why are his books "increasingly used in schools"? n/t |
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Mr. Blonde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Because kids will actually read them |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Whatever happened to classics such as "Huckleberry Finn" and "Tom Sawyer"? n/t |
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Mr. Blonde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Some schools are skittish |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "What is the point when kids won't read them?" Um, the teacher assigns it ... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I sincerely hope that you're not in the teaching profession |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Fine-- let them read this kind of stuff on their own if they want |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Like I said earlier, you're not in the educational field, it's obvious |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I'm not talking about establishing political criteria for reading selection |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. required *SUMMER* reading |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. And , yes, I have been a teacher. n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Thank goodness that's in the past tense |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Nope-- I subscribed to the philosophy that kids live up to people's expectations of them |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. times change |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. ender's game repeatedly uses a GAY slur! |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I haven't been able to go near one of his books since |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Because his protagonists are usually children or young adults. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. sorry, I don't buy that -- kids should be reading the classics, not this stuff. |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I'd consider Ender's Game a modern classic... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Well, I don't consider it a "classic". There are lots better choices out there. n/t |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I'm curious. Have you read Ender's Game? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. As we speak...it's required reading for freshmen pre-AP in our school district |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Do you disapprove of Harry Potter as well? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Once again, I'm talking about REQUIRED READING ASSIGNMENTS |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. Fail. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Give them a zero for not reading some shitty book they don't want to read? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. And if they don't want to do their geometry homework, we should provide a replacement |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Have you got a valid replacement for geometry? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. If you want to consider this stuff "valid replacements for classics" then I feel sorry for you. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. If you think the classics are superior to modern literature... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. And if you are saying that the classics should not be covered AT ALL, then I feel sorry for you. n/ |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Did they teach logic at your school? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Did they teach reading at your school n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yes. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Nope..it shows that you haven't read my posts. IGNORE...sorry, pal, I don't have time for this. nt |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. The classics only became classics because they were at one time popular |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Fine -- but you DON'T have them read this stuff EXCLUSIVELY! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Err... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. No, my point was reading this stuff to the EXCLUSION of everything else. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. "kids should be reading the classics, not this stuff." |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Post #25. n/t |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Who was saying they should? |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. and there's merit in reading classical literature. n/t |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. The two are in no way mutually exclusive. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. But they are -- on our REQUIRED SCHOOL READING LISTS |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Then talk to whoever writes your area's lists. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I have brought it up repeatedly....and all I get is ..."well, the kids just aren't INTERESTED in |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Let's see this list of yours. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Beats me. |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. got an audio book of his from the library: the protagonist went |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Probably because he writes like a child |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Card has his problems... |
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bdf (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. What a shame an occasionally great writer has his intellect crippled by this garbage |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I guess we're not gonna read about any more naked boy, soaped up, shower fight scenes from Orson. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
31. "Classics" are awful |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
36. Wow. Nature invented marriage! I didn't know that. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
53. That asswipe |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
56. I hate his politics, but I do admit I have enjoyed his books immensely |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I agree. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. He's definitely not a bad writer |
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rch35 (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
63. He may be crazy |
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