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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:08 PM
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Does McCain consider the Dalai Lama to be a g**k?
and I don't mean geek.

and who exactly qualifies as a g**k in his world?

North Vietnamese only? or all Eastern communists?

just curious

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-uptake/gook-john-mccains-racism_b_114401.html

The UpTake's Chuck Olsen interviews author Irwin Tang about his book, "Gook: John McCain's Racism and Why It Matters." McCain first used the work "gook" in the mass media in his 1973 article for U.S. News & World Report.

The word appears 12 times in the article and is available online here.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html

Most recently, McCain used the term in his 2000 presidential campaign, as documented by the San Francisco Chronicle.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL

Arizona Sen. John McCain refused to apologize yesterday for his use of a racial slur to condemn the North Vietnamese prison guards who tortured and held him captive during the war.
"I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live."


To learn more about Mr. Tang's book, which also details McCain's connection to white supremacist groups, visit his web site.

http://irwinbooks.com/



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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:11 PM
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1. Not sure. Gook? Slope? Dink? Slant?
Don't know exactly where Tibetans fall in the pantheon of racial stereotyping.
Kind of a gray area.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:06 PM
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20. For a bigot, you make too many distinctions.
For a bigot, the world is black and white.

And, in this case, yellow, too.


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vadger1 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:24 PM
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2. I guess not.
To be fair to McCain (I can't believe I'm saying this), he clarified that he only meant "gook" to refer to the Vietnamese prison guards during the war. He didn't seem to think of it as a universal racial term.

Not like that it makes it even remotely acceptable.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:30 PM
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4. my ma says she only uses the n word when describing BAD people--
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 04:30 PM by elehhhhna
well, bad black people.

same logic: none whatsoever
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:57 PM
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10. Senator Byrd uses it to describe any bad person
Remember when he said "white n.....s"?
It all depends on the context.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:55 PM
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6. Yeah, right.
And Ron Paul doesn't hate all black people, just the ones that stole his wallet.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:27 PM
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3. Geek?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:05 PM
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18. Not that there's anything wrong with that
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 07:05 PM by slackmaster
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:53 PM
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5. Probably not...
He considered the people who tortured him to be gooks, not all Asians. I cant fault him for that.

IMO its like that Chris Rock joke about the difference between black people and niggers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpUSElgJcyI
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:55 PM
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8. Oh boy.
:popcorn:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 05:05 PM
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12. got any Texasshole jokes?
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 05:06 PM by Gabi Hayes
only about the ones who, well, you get the idea

do you think they'll resurrect the lie about Michele Obama using the epithet 'whitey' in September or October

or sooner?

gee...I must be psychic, as this garbage by Lynne Sweet demonstrates EXACTLY what I said above:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/06/obama_fights_smear_michelle_ob.html

When I phoned the Obama press shop a few times in recent weeks to check out rumors about whether there was a videotape with Michelle Obama using the word "whitey," the campaign declined to issue a denial or to pass along the question to Michelle's staff to find out what might be fueling the rumors.

That's been a standard tactic in dealing with the mainstream press. Unless there is some evidence, ignore the matter and reporters for mainstream outlets probably won't publish anything about racially charged language without proof.


But the rumors about Michelle were kicking around the Internet and working their way into some broadcast outlets; Rush Limbaugh, for example, said rivals of presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama were "waiting to use it in October of Michelle going nuts in the church, too, talking about 'whitey' this and 'whitey' that."

Talking a week ago, Obama gave a frosty answer to McClatchy Newspapers reporter Margaret Talev, who asked about rumors concerning his wife.

"There is dirt and lies that are circulated in e-mail," he said. "And they pump them out long enough until finally you, a mainstream reporter, asks me about them. And then that gives legs to the story."

"He was visibly angry at being asked to dignify the rumor by denying it -- and so was his staff," said Talev, writing in her blog.

Note that Obama never simply said it was not true; he was concerned, as he said, that if he did, he would create a story. But the exchange got Obama to thinking it was time to shift tactics.

As detailed by Karen Tumulty in Time Magazine, Obama then told his "top aides it was time for a more aggressive solution to the rumors that have been popping up on the Internet about him and his family for months."
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 05:07 PM
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13. Not a fan of Chris Rock I take it?
:shrug:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:27 PM
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14. not so much, anymore. did you read the Rolling Stone interview?
lots of very unfunny quotes in there, which were presented as examples of how hilarious he is every waking moment

he's lost his edge, and he hasn't been decent in a movie since New Jack City. his movies SUUUUCKKKK!!! surely you can't seriously argue that point

still love the Nat X, though

all a matter of taste. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but he just doesn't do that much for me these days. used to, but not now. bring the pain was funny, but it doesn't hold up like most of richard pryor does

for me

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:30 PM
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15. is this funny? I vote, no. tired, predictable, forumulaic
“Bush has fucked up so bad,”that he’s made it hard for a white man to run for president. ‘Gimme anything but another white man, please! Black man, white woman, giraffe, anything!’

A white man’s had that job for hundreds of years — and one guy fucked it up for all of ya!” And: “Each candidate tells you how humble they are. No, you’re not humble! Do you know how big your ego has to be to say you wanna be president of the United States? Do you know how much Puff Daddy juice you have to drink? How many Kanye injections you have to take?”
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:55 PM
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7. It's just a photo Op
he's heading for the Olympics. I wonder if he'll sit with W.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 04:55 PM
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9. to McCainus, I believe the word would be even less appropriate.... Chinaman.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 05:01 PM
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11. "Gook" was the racial slur of choice for all asians
in the bad old days.

This is yet another reason why I think McCain is unqualified to be president. He's still filled with these awful thought patterns that he is just A-OK with.

:puke:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:19 PM
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27. I thought "Gook" was specifically for Southeast Asians
Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians, Thais, etc.

I've never heard the term applied to Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, or to central or southern Asians.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:51 PM
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32. taking bait for the final time, either way
you've revealed yourself to be a font of ignorance, whether it's purposeful, or not

if anything you've said here was amusing, it would be worth continuing, but you can pat yourself on back one last time for keeping this idiocy going as long as you have

good job, sport!

you can pull your pants back up now
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:01 PM
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16. I do not think he is racist

He has some rational ideas and concern about illegal immigrants. I think he just has a small mind, or extremely limited mind.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:51 AM
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38. I don't believe McCain is racist either
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 10:02 AM by slackmaster
He has said some things that might sound like he hates Southeast Asians, but only if taken out of their proximal context and disregarding the traumatic experiences he had during the Vietnam War.

I don't need a bullshit reason not to vote for McCain. Posting garbage like this and then supporting it with personal attacks on anyone who doesn't take it "seriously" only makes the OP look bad.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:04 PM
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17. Frankly he is a bit of a geek, or maybe a nerd
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 07:04 PM by slackmaster
I've heard him speak. His college-educated and intellectual credentials are obvious. I don't see what the problem is here.

:shrug:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:06 PM
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19. next time you go to a chinese restaurant, try this:
"Hey, G**k! Where's my flied lice?"
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:07 PM
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21. No thanks, I don't call strangers names
Not even friendly names.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:12 PM
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23. but you have no problems with others, like McCain doing it, right?
or employing foaming racists like Richard Quinn?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:14 PM
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24. If McCain called the DL a geek, I doubt that he'd be very insulted
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 07:15 PM by slackmaster
He'd probably laugh it off. As a fellow geek, it wouldn't bother me at all to be put in the same bucket as such a fine man.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:08 PM
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28. what are you, a comedian?
bout as funny as a puswort on a kaposi's sarcoma
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:23 PM
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29. Have you actually read Irwin Tang's book?
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 08:24 PM by slackmaster
I have not.

I see you finally figured out I was being intentionally obtuse to annoy humor-challenged people.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:43 PM
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30. have you? love to hear your obtuse-mode synopsis. take your time.
believe it or not, people don't hang on your every word, none of which seem to be worth much attention

I get it, though.....racism is always a real yokfest, especially when revealed in presidential candidates

you just keeping posting your faux obtusities, and laugh yourself silly

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:47 AM
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36. So you admit you haven't read it
Why are you pimping it?

Who paid you to start this thread?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:11 PM
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22. no problem with this, huh?
Many may not be aware that Senator John McCain voted against making Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Day a federal holiday in 1983. He later apologized for this vote and claimed it was a mistake. However, he has continued to associate himself with known racists.

McCain’s chief South Carolina Spokesman is Richard Quinn, founder and editor in chief of the magazine “Southern Heritage”. According to Salon.com:

Quinn’s articles have called Nelson Mandela a “terrorist” and King a man “whose role in history was to lead his people into a perpetual dependence on the welfare state, a terrible bondage of body and soul.” In another piece, Quinn said of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, “What better way to reject politics as usual than to elect a maverick like David Duke?”…

http://www.stopjohnmccain2008.com/category/racism/
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:16 PM
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26. I thought the subject was the possibility of McCain calling the DL a geek
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 07:18 PM by slackmaster
What's all that gobbledygook you posted got to do with it?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:45 PM
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31. you made your idiotic point clear in another post
time to catch up on your lithium, I'd say
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:45 AM
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35. Well, aren't you a cute little personal attacking Jack-A-Dandy!
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 09:49 AM by slackmaster
You're the one who started this stupid thread pimping a book you haven't even read. Deal with it.

If you don't like my replies, you have two reasonable options - Ignore and Alert. Or I suppose you can go on throwing out insults and proving that you have no sense of humor.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:05 PM
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33. *sigh*
If that's your response, it's intensely sad.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:45 PM
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34. if you can follow this twit's inane maunderings, he seems to think he's
cleverly drawn in what he calls the humor-challenged with his lame attempt at impersonating lord knows what

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:48 AM
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37. Gabi has nothing but personal attack to offer
And hasn't even read the book.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 09:53 AM
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39. My serious response is that I'd rather see an actual review posted by someone who has read the book
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 10:09 AM by slackmaster
Rather than a chickenshit thread like this, in which the author is afraid to post a word and unwilling to accept any form of criticism.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:14 PM
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25. I just heard McCain speak and the Peace chimes of the Buddhist Bells
Overwhelmed whatever he was talking about. It was on the Rachel Maddow
radio show.
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