How Far To The Left Are You?

[Faux pas]

Take the quiz @ http://franz.org/quiz.htm

I scored 10, but I'm not going to tell you what that means. You have to take the quiz to find out.

[mcctatas]

1. I scored a 2?????

and here I thought I was a moderate.....

[EFerrari]

2. And here you are a commie like me.

:rofl:

[mcctatas]

7. Makes me wonder....

If I'm a commie, what the fuck DOES a wingnut believe? :scared:

:toast: to my fellow commie;)

[JDPriestly]

9. The test does seem skewed to the right.

It does not account for subtleties. You are either for or against some stupid oversimplification. Not well constructed.

[EFerrari]

11. That's right. For example, you could be against farm subsidies

for a range of reasons -- such as the fact they mainly benefit corporations. But I bet if you vote against them, it's scored as a right wing point.

[mcctatas]

12. Well there's one of my 2 points explained....

[vaberella]

24. I voted against them, because of those big farm corps that steal the funds.

[comtec]

27. I wanted a "depends" for that one too... I voted for because ORIGINALLY it was for small farms

I wish i had said for Agricorp - which I am for cutting
as opposed to sub-million dollar farms which Im not for cutting.

[DutchLiberal]

61. Farm subsidies IS a right-wing position.

At least it is where I come from. Liberals usually want to get rid of them.

[EFerrari]

65. Here they were first for family farms and now they are corporate welfare.

And when right wing politicians talk about them, they are very misleading on that point. They preach independence from government to their base and push money at corporations at every opportunity.

[Faux pas]

18. Jeezalou-sorry to have offended your elitist sensibilities.

In no way did I represent the quiz as the be all and end all of quizzes. I thought it was 'fun'. Take a laxative or something.

[rpannier]

99. Some people take these things too seriously

Thanks for posting

[Faux pas]

107. You're welcome, for sure. And thank you, I appreciate your

comment. :)

[SpookyCat]

56. That's always my problem with these types of tests.

I wanted a choice to REDUCE defense spending, but not CUT IT completely.

It's not exactly Myers-Briggs...

[Iris]

83. I thought so, too - Social Security and Medicare are entitlement programs?

[EFerrari]

10. The "left" seems scrunched up on this scale, doesn't it?

I mean, Jesse Jackson is not exactly Mao, is he? lol :)

[WritersBlock]

3. 7 n/t

[margotb822]

85. me too

[pepperbear]

4. WOW! I'm Che Guevera, and he isn't even on the list! n/t

[underseasurveyor]

5. I've taken that test many times over the last 7 years

and I still land between Ted and Hillary.

8 for me

[populistdriven]

103. 8 me too

[JDPriestly]

6. I scored 13.

The test is amateurish. I believe the word campaign was misspelled as "campain." We make similar mistakes in posts, but if you bother to construct a website with a test and try to appear professional and authoritative about the subject matter of the website, you should use spellcheck.

[vaberella]

25. Well it is for fun. I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously.

[frog92969]

8. 10

And there's no way HRC is as far left as me.

[RC]

35. Bingo!

Hilary needs to be moved to the other side of GHW Bu$h.

BTY, I got a 6

[TreasonousBastard]

13. My number doesn't count because...

some of the questions are just stupid.

Too many questions like: "Do you trust doctors or lawyers more?"

Well, depends on whether I'm sick or suing someone (or in jail) doesn't it?

[vaberella]

23. That was an easy one for me. Lawyers...House & ER turned me off to doctors.

They're playing russian roulette with our lives.

[JDPriestly]

41. I'm a lawyer and my daughter is a doctor.

That was a hard one for me to answer.

[Romulox]

52. Ummmm, no.

Laws are made by legislatures and administered by judges, often with the help of juries.

It gets kind of tiresome to have every flaw in our court system placed on the shoulders of lawyers, who actually have little or no input as to the law, court procedures, or how juries respond to the evidence. :hi:

[frebrd]

14. 4 n/t

[Midlodemocrat]

60. Same here.

[Sunnyshine]

15. I'm a 5.

95% Liberal- I share the ranking of Senator Kennedy. Hope he's staying strong and continues healing.

[XOKCowboy]

16. 8

What a weird poll..

[LeftishBrit]

17. 4.

I think that I might have got an even less conservative score if I were answering in a fully American context (e.g. I agreed that federal government was too big, because OUR central government has got too big at the expense of local government; but don't really know the American situation there). Also, in some of the 'whom do you trust more' questions, I didn't trust either!

[calimary]

19. 6.

Who knew? :D

[MrSlayer]

20. I got an 11. I don't agree with their representations though.

11 is in-between Hill and Bill? Crazy. They don't go to 11. And Colin Powell is the political center? Colin Powell isn't even in politics. This poll must be way old.

[Diclotican]

21. Faux pas

Faux pas

I am there I should be, excactly there I should be:bounce: Politicy speaking it is;)

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language

[vaberella]

22. I'm a 7. Below HRC, just above Ted Kennedy.

[Kitty Herder]

111. Me, too. And I completely disagree with that characterization.

This quiz is meaningless because many of the questions just don't have "correct" (from my lefty point of view) answers provided. So it skews rightward.

[comtec]

26. 6

to the left or hilary, just right of Kennedy.. I can live with that.
I felt SEVERAL questions should have been "depends"
I don't like binary answers for complex issues.
I admit to being a lil conservative on some things like crime laws.
I've never been fall off the chart liberal...
BTW.. why is Jesse Jackson 0?
I Really don't consider him all that far left, when you look at ALL he stands for.

[comtec]

28. If they consider Ray-gun as the most conservative, it's definately a R/W poll

ray-gun was NOT the most conservative prez we've had/more conservative!
ray-gun was bad.. VERY bad, but he's not the worst (conservative) by far!
worst president.. DEFINITELY!
Hell I'd even put pappy bush farther right than ray-gun!

[GCP]

29. 5-er here

Like my hero Ted.

[Zavulon]

30. 16, but that test has some problems

The question I hate the most is "21. As a society, we should spend more money trying to find a cure for AIDS than for cancer and heart disease because AIDS threatens younger people", as if my compassion for someone should be contingent on how long longevity estimates say he or she has left. I went with "disagree," which I assume bumped my score up a point.

Plus, the "who do you trust more" questions are a mess - what the hell do I check in the cases in which I have no trust for either choice? I probably could have gotten a lower score if I had put any thought into any of them, but those questions were akin to "what tastes better, a shit sandwich on rye or a shit sandwich on wheat?"

[JeanGrey]

105. That was a stupid question because younger people of couse,

DO get cancer.

[Kitty Herder]

112. "A shit sandwith on rye or a shit sandwich on wheat?" LOL That's a great way to put it.

Like this question, "Who do you trust more, the FBI or the IRS?" Ummmm..... Neither? I'm sure most people would say neither, give that option. I actually flipped coin to choose an answer to that question. So, yeah, that was meaningful.

An I answered disagree to the AIDS question, too, for the same reason.

[RebelOne]

31. I scored 15, which means I'm up there with Bill Clinton. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

32. Ahh..... the leftier-than-thou purity test. Wonderful.

[Snarkturian Clone]

37. Ugh, I hear ya on that.

"I scored a million leftism points!!!! I'm therefore more qualified to have an opinion on this board than you RW trolls!"

DU sucks lately.

[entanglement]

46. It is a poor test of leftism...doesn't distinguish between classical Marxists, social democrats and

liberals. If anything, it shows how far to the right US polity is. There is whole world of leftist thought beyond everyday 'liberalism'.

[BlooInBloo]

64. Don't forget the $10-word-for-$.50-thought leftists.

[entanglement]

66. As I posted elsewhere, there is a whole

world of serious socialist thought beyond the fashionable radicalism you're acquainted with and mistake for genuine Marxism. I invite you to start here:-
www.wsws.org

[BlooInBloo]

68. hahahaha! Yes, I'm aware of that fact.

[VOX]

33. 3 -- Right between Jessie Jackson and Ted Kennedy. But the test is flawed...

For example, the question about bigger government -- What progressive/liberal in his/her right mind wants an intrusive, oversized government that spies on its citizens, or denies them habeas corpus, or slaps them in Gitmo?

Some of those questions are so old that the polarities have switched.

[devilgrrl]

47. 3 for me as well

and I agree with your observations.

[Unvanguard]

34. Haha... their "far left" figure is Jesse Jackson.

Try Peter Kropotkin.

:)

[DailyGrind51]

36. I'm an 11 and surprised, because

I thought I would score further left of center?

[LWolf]

73. Two points:

1. I don't know that you can consider your results accurate; there are some questions that don't have the right choice, and the test makers don't necessarily place those politicians correctly on a left-right scale.

2. It could be the typical American misunderstanding of "left;" There is almost NO "left" in the U.S.. What is generally labeled "left, liberal," etc. in the U.S. IS center, globally and historically.

[DailyGrind51]

101. Thanks, I started to worry that I was becoming centrist in my old age!

[Breeze54]

38. Your Score: = 7 ~ Closer to Ted Kennedy (5) - 100% Liberal !

19. Deceptive political campain commercials should be banned.

campain ? cam --- pain! :P

[bigwillq]

39. 7 (nt)

[LaurenG]

40. I scored a ten as well. nt

[dajoki]

42. I got a 7 n/t

[cliffordu]

43. I'm a 7. Waiting for homeland security right now......

[dkofos]

44. I'm right between Bill & Hilary.

[RT Atlanta]

45. 6

just to the "right" of Sen. Ted Kennedy

[alwysdrunk]

48. 18 (Disputed)

I knew I was more centerish, but I can't accept being between Bill Clinton and Colin Powell.

[slackmaster]

49. I've always called myself a centrist

And I scored a 20 on the quiz.

I think many of the questions are silly and see no validity in them, e.g. whether I trust professional athletes or team owners more.

[Stinky The Clown]

50. I scored 8, but I didn't like some of their choices

Some of their choices seemed to me to be no choice at all.

[donco6]

51. 11, but some questions are false dichotomies. eom

[BB1]

53. score of 13.

strange. I'm considered very left. In The Netherlands! I should not even be allowed into the USA, and still I rank in between Hillary and Bill Clinton. They're not left. Hmm.

*starts running around the block counterclockwise, for compensation*

[MadrasT]

54. 13

[SpookyCat]

55. Scored a 6...that's about right.

[closeupready]

57. Eleven.

n/t

[Greyhound]

58. Very poorly developed and the available responses are skewed.

So, what's the point of this propaganda?

Edit: I withdraw the question, it's just the product of what now passes for higher education.

[DutchLiberal]

59. I'm a 9. Dumb test, because

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I'm a 9. It's a dumb test, because Hillary Clinton is a 10, and there's no way in the world I'm so near her.

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My answers:

1. Generally, do you tend to trust or distrust government's ability to solve problems?

Distrust

2. Which do you trust more:

U.S. Postal Office
Legislative branch
IRS
Peace Corps
United Nations

3. What about private institutions and people? Which do you trust more?

Doctors
Union leaders
Professional athletes

4. The federal government should do more to solve the nation's problems even if it means higher taxes on (pick as many as you want.):

You
Big Corporations Wealthy

5. Where should government be cut? (pick as many as you want.)

Eliminate farm subsidies
Cut defense spending

6. Which would do more to guarantee competitive elections?

Public financing

7. Who was the better president?

Franklin D. Roosevelt

8. Do you see the ideal America as an ethnic "melting pot" in which religious, cultural and ethnic distinctions are blurred, or as a nation in which ethnically diverse groups ought to coexist while retaining their cultural identity?

Melting pot

9. Whose political views do you consider more extreme, those of (former) Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders or the Rev. Pat Robertson?

Robertson

10. Which would curb violent crime most?

Both stricter controls on the sale of guns and Mandatory sentences for those who use guns in the commission of a crime

11. In the long run, do you think we can reduce crime more by building more prisons or providing more financial assistance to rebuilding our inner cities?

Rebuild cities

12. Even if it means cutting programs, spending must be cut to reduce the federal deficit.

Agree

13. The federal government is too big.

Disagree

14. U.S. interests are more seriously at stake in Haiti than they are in Korea.

Agree

15. Gays and lesbians should be able to marry or at least be treated as married under law if they so desire.

Agree

16. The news media is dominated by liberals.

Disagree

17. The religious right is a threat to our political system.

Agree

18. The federal government should include funds to make abortion services part of any standard benefits package in health care reform.

Disagree

19. Deceptive political campain commercials should be banned.

Agree

20. Graphic pornography should be banned.
Disagree

21. As a society, we should spend more money trying to find a cure for AIDS than for cancer and heart disease because AIDS threatens younger people.

Disagree

22. Talk radio shows should be regulated to ensure both sides of a debate are represented, because talk radio has an unhealthy impact on the political process.

Disagree

23. The breakdown of the traditional family is the most serious domestic crisis facing our society.

Disagree

24. Women and racial minorities should be given preferences in hiring until we achieve true gender and racial equality in America.

Agree

25. Certain environmental problems call for government action, even if it means new programs or increased taxes.

Agree

[Phoonzang]

62. I got a Hillary (10).

Sounds about right to me.

[ncliberal]

63. 7. nt

[Dutch]

67. 12. n/t

[leftofthedial]

69. 3

[Flabbergasted]

70. 9 but some of the answers are dependent on circumstances. nt

[Greyskye]

72. Ditto here.

[LWolf]

71. 3. nt

[Blue_In_AK]

74. I'm a 6.

Funny questions -- some of them were pretty hard to answer. Hmm, who do I trust more -- the FBI or the IRS? How about NEITHER ONE.

[Steely_Dan]

75. "8" here

[pleah]

76. I scored a 10.

:)

[Lyric]

77. I'm a 2

Somewhere to the left of Ted Kennedy, lol.

[guitar man]

78. 13

I'll be leaving now, I'm sure you all don't want my right wing ass around here anymore :hi:

:rofl:

[IndependentDem]

79. I'm right behind you... i scored a 13 but the test is pretty bunk imo. n/t

[guitar man]

81. it is

some of the answers I was forced to choose were not how I would have answered at all. It seems to have been crafted by some "black and white" thinking right winger seeking to pigeonhole people.

[Ganja Ninja]

80. 4

[Redbear]

82. This is hilarious

I scored 6.

Then , I went back answered every question the opposite way and I scored 34. I am the anti-Bob Dole.

[Brewman_Jax]

84. I scored 8

nt

[TCJ70]

86. I'm at the center...

...21. But some of those questions I didn't want to choose either option!

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

87. 4

I'm a libertarian on personal issues (pro-choice, pro-gay marriage/equality, for legalization of marijuana) and a Scandinavian style Social Democrat on economic issues.

[louis c]

88. I'm a three

God only knows what it takes to be a zero, since I'm an avowed socialist

[Selatius]

89. This test is flawed. I scored an 8, but Stalin would likely score not too far from me as well.

The person's political views can be measured not just by examining his economic positions on economic issues but also his position on how to treat others in society, which holds ramifications on how economic positions are ultimately codified into law as well as social issues.

A left wing authoritarian may agree with me on quite a few issues facing this country, but he's more likely to impose changes through force and terror, and it would be unfair to label me as an authoritarian in the same vane if I prefer to inform people or convince them of my argument and let them decide what to do, as opposed to forcing them to do something that I want.

[L0oniX]

90. Score 11 ....I hate being between Hillary and Bill though.

:evilgrin:

[Maureen1322]

91. 13, and I love being between Bill and Hill

[asdjrocky]

92. I'm a 4.

[XemaSab]

93. 6

:)

[Zynx]

94. 13.

[tammywammy]

95. 18 n/t

[galledgoblin]

96. 6, but I thought the test was flawed. (n/t)

[MisterP]

97. oo, a 2--and my positions are both reationally AND emotionally reconciled to reality n/t

[rpannier]

98. I got a 9

[LiberalPersona]

100. I got a 9

Just to the left of Hillary.

I don't think she belongs that far left though.

[AmyCamus]

102. From the "October 28-30, 1994 issue of USA Weekend"

Things have changed a bit since then.
I scored a seventyeleventeen point two-thirds.

[JeanGrey]

104. A 18. Right in the middle, just as I thought.

[Irishonly]

106. Got a 6

Hello Senator Kennedy:)

[Az]

108. 6

But I found some of the questions to be poorly worded so I protest as I should be further to the left.

[Initech]

109. I believe George Bush is the child of Satan sent here to destroy the planet.

[Kitty Herder]

110. I scored a 7. But the quiz was obviously written in a manner to skew

the results rightward. It misrepresents progressive views. An answer that I would have agreed with wasn't provided for many of the questions.

[old mark]

113. I scored a 6 -

Places me between Ted K and HRC.
I guess I'm getting old......

mark