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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:03 PM
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Mandatory Tuesday Malloy Truthseekers check in!!


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How did they do it? How did the Bush Crime Family (BCF) so easily assemble such a collection of amoral, neo-con apparatchiks so willing to subvert the U.S. Constitution and so eager to operate - as they have demonstrated again and again during these horrific Bush/Cheney years - with such complete contempt for the law; any law?

In her book "The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned Into a War on American Ideals," Jane Mayer of The New Yorker Magazine offers, if not an explanation of the coming together of these people, then certainly a disturbing look into the means and methods they used to violate every single tenet of the rule of law so necessary to self-government and international trust. The list of names - familiar now to anyone following the almost daily revelations of criminal activity at the highest level of the BCF - include not just advisors to George W. Bush, but also the Vice President, cabinet members, military consultants, intelligence officers, department heads, regulatory agency administrators, on and on and on.

As NY Times columnist Bob Herbert writes today, "Mayer . . . devotes a great deal of space to David Addington, Dick Cheney’s main man and the lead architect of the Bush administration’s legal strategy for the so-called war on terror. She quotes a colleague as saying of Mr. Addington: 'No one stood to his right.' Colin Powell, a veteran of many bruising battles with Mr. Cheney, was reported to have summed up Mr. Addington as follows: 'He doesn't believe in the Constitution.'"

Consider that. The chief advisor to the man actually running U.S. policy, foreign and domestic - Dick Cheney - is someone who does not "believe in the (U.S.) Constitution." Perhaps you remember Addington's recent appearance before the House Judiciary Committee where, under subpoena to testify, he displayed an arrogance identical to the Nazi war criminals brought before the tribunals at Nuremberg. When asked - based on the advice he had given Cheney and Bush - if it would it be legal to torture a detainee's child in order to extract information Addington snarled, "I'm not here to render legal advice to your committee. You do have attorneys of your own." As the Washington Post's Dana Milbank reported concerning Addington's "fuck you" attitude to the House Committee, when Rep. Debbie Wasserman Shultz (D-Fla.) questioned his failure to remember conversations about interrogation techniques, he only looked at her and asked: "Is there a question pending . . .?" Finally, at the end of the hearing, Addington was asked whether he would meet privately to discuss classified matters. "You have my number," he said.

Addington - in a manner identical to that employed by Joseph Goebbels and Hermann Goering, chief architects of the Nazi High Command - was willing to define the law as whatever was necessary to accomplish the objectives of the BCF. The legality or illegality of those actions was not a matter Addington considered of the least importance. Nor, history has shown, did such concerns influence Goering or Goebbels.

As Herbert writes, "In the view of Mr. Addington and his acolytes, anything and everything that the president authorized in the fight against terror - regardless of what the Constitution or Congress or the Geneva Conventions might say - was all right. That included torture, rendition, warrantless wiretapping, the suspension of habeas corpus, you name it."

This is the mind-set, Herbert adds, "that gave us Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo and the C.I.A.’s secret prisons, known as 'black sites.'" Is it not also the "mind-set" that gave the world Auschwitz, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen and the deaths and burnings of millions of innocent human beings. Shouldn't we take notice and react when Mayer writes in her book or Herbert writes today in the Times, "When constraints of the law are unlocked by the men and women in suits at the pinnacle of power, terrible things happen in the real world. You end with detainees being physically and psychologically tormented day after day, month after month, until they beg to be allowed to commit suicide. You have prisoners beaten until they are on the verge of death, or hooked to overhead manacles like something out of the Inquisition, or forced to defecate on themselves, or sexually humiliated, or driven crazy by days on end of sleep deprivation and blinding lights and blaring noises, or water-boarded."

This, then, is the essential foundation of the legacy of George W. Bush's catastrophic eight years in office, a Presidency that was not his and should never have been given to him.

Indeed, the U.S. shamed itself on George W. Bush’s and Dick Cheney’s watch, a shame that will take years to erase - if ever it can be erased. Herbert writes, "Ms. Mayer noted that Arthur Schlesinger Jr., the late historian, believed that 'the Bush administration’s extralegal counterterrorism program presented the most dramatic, sustained and radical challenge to the rule of law in American history.' Mr. Schlesinger added, according to Mayer: "'No position taken has done more damage to the American reputation in the world — ever.'"

The citizens of modern Germany would understand that summation - when applied to their own country - to a far greater degree than we Americans understand its application to us.

MDM

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:04 PM
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1. Yo ralps & Truthies!
:hi:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:05 PM
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4. Hi catnapper!, Crook & I are doing good, How are you all doing? You're 1st!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:09 PM
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13. We're great, ralps. Look what I found in the yard when I got home tonight -
a wild turkey...

and teeny wild turkeys...
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:13 PM
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17. Awww The babies look cute! There's a turkey family near my parent's house
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:16 PM
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20. That's so cute, catnapper!
The only wildlife I've ever seen in front of our apartment building was a big, ugly possum. :(
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:21 PM
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29. When I lived in NY I had a mouse in my stove.
One-room apartment - 11x18 feet, including the bathroom! One of those tiny apartment gas stoves. I'd hear rattles coming from the stovetop and a little furry head would pop up next to one of the burners. I lived on cold meals until I got a humane, lobster-style trap, caught him and released him outside.

Next night...rattle-rattle-rattle. "I'm ba-aaaaack". (Or maybe it was a close relative.):hi::hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:29 PM
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50. New additions to the catnapper family !

:hi: :hug:

Where do you think they came from? Do you live near woods or mountain? They are cute little buggers.

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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:35 PM
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63. Hi Ms. November!
We live in the hills about 3 miles back from the Bay at the edge of a watershed. We've seen lots of deer, coyotes, foxes, raccoons, skunks, rattlesnakes, owls, vultures, frogs, possum, quail...but the turkeys just showed up a couple of days ago. You're right...they are cute. Now I'll have to switch to Tofurkey for the holidays.:-(
:hi::hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:41 PM
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67. I've never seen a baby turkey.

But we will ask that you show us pictures of the family about Nov. 25th, just to be sure. :rofl:

We used to have a family of ducks at our bus stop in Scotts Valley several years ago. I was so worried that they would not get back to their pond, across a busy highway. But CA'ians love their duckies and I think they got a helping hand back to their stomping ground. The CHP stopped traffic on 17 once so that they could rescue another duck family. It makes a person feel very good about humanity. :-)



Hugs for Darth and the gang.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:47 PM
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74. You're right about the duckies.
The community park in our little burb has a small lake populated by ducks. I've seen traffic on the road going back to my house stop dead while a duck family calmly waddled across four lanes.:)
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:05 PM
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5. Hi catnapper!
:hi: :hug:
How are you, Mr. c and the fuzzies doing tonight? Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie, and the NJ boyz!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:04 PM
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2. Hi ralps and my fellow truthseekers!
:hi: :grouphug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:06 PM
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6. Hi smokey nj, Crook & I are doing good! How are you all doing? Are there any
more photos of Ediie? :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:08 PM
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11. Hey ralps!
:hi: :hug:
We're all hanging in there, thanks! Big :hug:s for you and my fuzzy buddy Crook! Please give him lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ boyz! No, I haven't taken any new photos of Edie in a couple of days. She bounces around so much it's hard to shoot a picture! :rofl:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:11 PM
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15. I sure will! & please give your kitties Lots of scritches & tummy rubs from me!
Maybe you should call her Bouncy Edie?? :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:07 PM
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8. smokey! scratches & rubs & all that good stuff.
(Based on the fit hitting the shan, sounds like John Edwards could use some too. On second thought, that's what got him in trouble.

:hi::hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:13 PM
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18. I don't believe that bullshit story for a minute.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:29 PM
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51. Elizabeth doesn't need this right now.
Anyone know how she's doing?
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:34 PM
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61. Ok, I guess. I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
This stupid story's been bouncing around since last fall. Elizabeth Edwards doesn't strike me as the kind of woman who'd put up with any bullshit. If it were true, I'm sure we'd have seen John sporting a black eye or two.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:35 PM
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62. I saw her Colbert interview. She looked good.

I don't think I believe the JE story either. But if it's true, it's so sad. Another good guy loses an opportuntity to help the country because of sex. When will they learn?

But it ain't true!

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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:41 PM
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66. The usual impeccable timing as Obama is received in the Middle East as a superstar
and Grampy Insane is sticking both feet in his mouth, with room for more. The thing is, I'm surprised the NE is acting as a right-wing tool after one of their own was mysteriously anthraxed to death. Oh, I guess I answered my own question.:eyes:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:38 PM
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65. oh oh, I missing something here, what story about John Edwards.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:41 PM
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68. That bullshit affair rumor that the National Enquirer rolls out every few months
and Drudge picks up has reared it's ugly head again.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:44 PM
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71. An affair would not mean a damn thing

(except to Eliz. and John) but the freak show media whore circus would just destroy him. Sludge can kiss my lily white ass. I am sooo sick of these right wing pukes....
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:46 PM
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73. I'm sick of the Edwards-hating DUers who always run with this bullshit.
Currently, there are 2 threads about it in GD and one was locked in LBN earlier.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:49 PM
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75. I had never heard a word about it until today.

Glad that DU locked the thread. The immature meatheads don't need to leave their pointless comments.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:54 PM
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78. I wouldn't put too much truth into what the National Enquirer says.
it just never stops. I don't believe it either.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:07 PM
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86. Doesn't matter what we think. Reports were coming out today that BO was seriously considering JE
as VP running-mate, and voila...

Anything to outrage Mr. & Mrs. Potatohead in East Armpit, USA.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:47 PM
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113. He has said recently tho that he would accept the VP nod

do you think this "story" would kill that?
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:51 PM
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115. Sure. Murder/mayhem/madness...no problem with John Q. Public.
But (gasp!) SEX!!! Career-ender. (Unless you're a lying Repuke)
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:04 PM
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3. Good Evening Truthseekers and a Very Happy 4th Birthday Molly Malloy!!
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 08:05 PM by Liberal_Dog
Hi ralps. :hi: Hello Everyone. :hi:

:grouphug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:06 PM
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7. Hi Liberal_Dog!
:hi: :hug:
Happy Birthday Molly!
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:07 PM
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10. Hi smokey nj
:hi:

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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:17 PM
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22. I think you have the funniest horoscope this week, Liberal_Dog
Cancer June 22 - July 22
Prom can be the most memorable night in a young girl's life. However, if the barbiturates do their job, she should still have trouble identifying you the next morning.

:rofl:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:07 PM
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9. Hi Liberal_Dog! Thanks for the reminder! Happy Birthday Molly!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :party: :toast: :bounce: :hug: :woohoo: :applause: :patriot:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:21 PM
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31. hey liberal dog!!
oh my goodness Molly is 4 yrs old geez I remember when she was born, boy time flies huh?:hi: :hug:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:09 PM
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12. hi ralps!! hi truthseekers! a hello and goodnight in one ;)
an achy rib wants extra sleep, the heat was nasty today

GO MIKE!! Love you guys :)

:hi: :hug: :loveya: :pals:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:10 PM
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14. Hi SalmonChantedEvening! Hugs! How are you all doing? Oh Dear!! I hope you
have a better day tomorrow! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :grouphug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:14 PM
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19. Hi SCE!
Good night and have a great one tomorrow!
:hi: :hug:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:32 PM
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56. hey SCE!!
drink plenty of fluids!!!:hi: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:12 PM
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16. Here are this week's horoscopes!
Here's mine:
Leo July 23 - August 22
You've never been the athletic type, so it's a bit of a surprise when you're suddenly struck with a dozen errant javelins.


http://www.theonion.com/content/node/83192
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:16 PM
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21. Thanks for the Link smokey nj! & Here's mine
Taurus APRIL 20 - MAY 20
God may have a divine plan for you, but after the coal mine disaster and the tour bus fire, you're beginning to suspect He's just making it up along the way.
well since my car stopped working on Saturday I guess that's another bad thing to happen! I had it towed to the dealer today.

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:18 PM
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24. I'm sorry ralps
:hug:
Is your car still under waranty?
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:21 PM
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30. I don't think so! I got a notice about it recently!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :scared:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:27 PM
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47. Here's mine for this week:

Scorpio October 24 - November 21

The stars indicate that this is a good week to jump around as if on fire, seduce a species of rare crayfish, and find a new astrologist.

* * * * * *

OK.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:28 PM
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48. I love yours!

:rofl: :rofl: errant javelins...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:18 PM
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23. hey ralps and family truthseekers!!!
how is everyone tonite? did anyone catch Obama's press conference today, he was presidential, accurate with his facts and confident. And McCain is pissed about his coverage too bad huh?:hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:19 PM
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25. Hi alyce douglas!
:hi: :hug:
How are you and my gorgeous fuzzy pal Chloe doing tonight? Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ boyz!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:23 PM
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34. hey smokey!!!
Chloe is outside enjoying the nite air. how is edie and boyz? :hi: :hug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:25 PM
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39. They're all doing well, thanks!
Peanut was cleaning Edie earlier, it was so cute!
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:20 PM
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26. Hi alyce douglas
:hi:

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:24 PM
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36. hi liberal dog!!
:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:21 PM
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27. Hi alyce douglas, Crook & I are doing good, how are you all doing?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:25 PM
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40. hi alyce douglas and the always-lovely Chloe!
:hi::hug:
I really enjoyed the story of how after Kindasleazy Rice sent out that bullshit memo about not providing assistance to political candidates, the King of Jordan personally drove Obama from the airport. Oh, snap!!!:rofl:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:28 PM
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49. the King of Jordan must of loved talking to a intelligent man
Hey catnapper!!!:hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:51 PM
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76. Did you guys read about the King giving Obama a lift to the airport?

It was hilarious! :rofl:

Obama hitches a royal ride:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/22/16432/2389/46/555254
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:21 PM
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28. Hi truthseekers!! ....





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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:23 PM
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33. Hi Ichingcarpenter!
:hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:25 PM
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42. Hi smokey nj !!!




Mike just said Psychopathic bastards....... LOL
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:25 PM
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41. Hi Ichingcarpenter! Great graphic!!!! & I hope you have a great birthday tomorrow!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :party: :toast: :bounce: :woohoo:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:26 PM
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46. Hi ralps!!!

Thanks

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #28
52. hey Ichingcarpenter!!
happy birthday too.:hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:33 PM
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58. Tomorrow my friend
Tomorrow........



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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #58
64. remember its just a number!!!
that is what I tell myself yea!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:45 PM
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72. Don't forget to stop by here for cake and ice cream !

:bounce:

:loveya:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:16 PM
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90. cake and ice cream it is!

Plus, I might indulge in some irish whiskey.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:43 PM
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70. Hi Ichingcarpenter, and Happy Almost-Birthday!
:hi::party:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:19 PM
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92. Thanks catnapper


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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:22 PM
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32. Hi-dee Ho Truthseekers !

:hi: :hug:

Hope everyone is well.

:pals:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:24 PM
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35. Hi Ms. November!
:hi: :hug:
How are you and the fuzz crew doing tonight? Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs for everyone from me, Edie and the NJ boyz!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:26 PM
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43. Hi smokey nj !

:hi: :hug:

We're all well thanks!! Large :hug:s for all the NJ gang! How are little Edie and the boyz?

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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:30 PM
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53. They're all great thanks!
Last night was the first night I let Edie in the bedroom. She bounced around the bed like a mental patient; the boyz got so annoyed, they left. :rofl: Earlier tonight Peanut gave Edie a bath, it was so cute!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:32 PM
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57. awww, that is so cute.

Edie & Peanut = :loveya:

She has herself a buddie!!

I feel bad for the boyz. I know what they are going thru. I'm sure they will adjust.

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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:52 PM
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77. Sounds like an Oreo/Peewee relationship in the making.
They were inseparable. And so cute together!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:02 PM
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82. Edie still seems a little suspicious of Peanut, but he's working hard to win her over.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:10 PM
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87. You've only had her, what, a week? Give the poor kids a chance!
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 09:10 PM by catnapper
:rofl:
edit to add: WE WANT PICTURES!!!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:12 PM
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88. It was two weeks on Sunday. It's hard to take pictures of her, she bounces
around the house like a mental patient. :rofl:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:24 PM
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37. Hi sweetie!!


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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #37
45. Hi IChingCarpenter!

:hi: :hug:

Hope all is well with you.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #32
44. Hi Ms. November, how are you all doing? Crook & I are doing good.
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:30 PM
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54. Hi ralps ! Love the dancing disco cat.

:hi: :hug:

"Happy Feet, I haz em"

:hug: for Crook.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:31 PM
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55. hey ms november!!!
how are you tonite??:hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #55
60. Hi alyce douglas !

:hi: :hug:

I'm fine thnx! How are you and chloe? Give her a hug from the CA gang.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:42 PM
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69. I will ms november!!
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:25 PM
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38. High. Level. War. Crimes. A bad idea.
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Aqaba Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:33 PM
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59. Batten down the hatches BRO!
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:58 PM
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79. Dinner and a Movie....
aaahhhhh!!!!

:hi: ralps
:hi: Truthseekers
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:59 PM
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80. Hi gumby!
:hi: :hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:00 PM
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81. Hi gumby !

:hi:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #79
122. Hi gumby!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:04 PM
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83. RIP Estelle Getty

:loveya: I loved The Golden Girls. Sophia made the show.


:-(
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:05 PM
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84. She sure did.
:(
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:07 PM
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85. I loved that show, Her character of Sophia was great.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #83
89. Every report and comment I've read about her has been filled with affection.
I guess you can't expect any better way to exit this world than by leaving everyone with happy memories.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:19 PM
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91. are we going to plan a double birthday party???
for smokey and ichingcarpenter??
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:22 PM
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93. The universe may collapse on itself.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:24 PM
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94. Neil = icepick.
:eyes:
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Aqaba Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:24 PM
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95. Neil better duck!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:24 PM
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96. Neil's a freeper!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:26 PM
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99. oh boy, a freeper, he won't make it alive.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 09:27 PM by alyce douglas
Mike will tell him off but good.

Mike just can't take ignorance. I can't either by the way.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:41 PM
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111. I wish T. Hartmann would get some Mike Malloy smackdown

did you hear that ASSHOLE this morning yelling over Thom and insulting him? So thom says, thanks for calling, nice talking to you.

:grr: :grr:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:25 PM
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97. Al Qaeda is located all over Islam? Where the eff is Islam?
:rofl:
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:26 PM
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100. Oh my
:spank:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:28 PM
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102. Hi Andrushka!
:hi: :hug:
We haven't heard one like Neil in a long time. :rofl:
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:37 PM
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108. Hey smokey nj!
The idiocy! The idiocy!

:dunce:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:40 PM
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110. IT BURNS!
:rofl:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:08 PM
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123. Hi Andrushka!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:28 PM
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101. IT'S EVERYWHERE, GODDAMMIT!1!!!!!! WHY CAIN'T YOU LIBRULS UNNERSTAND THAT???22???2?
THOZE MUSLAMOFASCISTS OWN HALF THE WORLD INCLUDING FRANCE CANDA AND THE DEMONC*RAT* PARTY!!11!!!!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:29 PM
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103. Hi newmajority!
:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:08 PM
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124. Hi Newmajority! LOL
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :rofl:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:45 PM
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112. Islam is near the Iraq Pakistani border.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:52 PM
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116. That's just east of Czechoslovakia, right?
:rofl:
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:26 PM
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98. Here we go
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 09:29 PM by Ahpook
I am so fucking sick of these assholes in this country.

We deserve this mess

The last caller is what i am referring to, of course:)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:29 PM
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104. hi ahpook
we deserve this mess, or they deserve this mess. total ignorance and arrogance, this regime has unleashed so much division and hatred in the US.
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:34 PM
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105. I know and i am sorry
I can't fucking understand what happened.

I am forced to tears hearing people like that.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:34 PM
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106. Hi Ahpook!
:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:09 PM
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125. Hi Ahpook!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:36 PM
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107. Hi Truthseekers! Hi ralps!
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 09:37 PM by Ilsa
Yeah, riding around in a golf cart, forgetting about The Czech Republic three times, forgetting about the Surge (Escalation) timeline, etc while Obama goes flying around the world and shooting hoops with troops in Kuwait. The dude is looking old, and hanging out with 41 doesn't help.



Next, we'll hear how much he likes watching Lawrence Welk on Saturday nights.

:kick:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:39 PM
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109. Hi Ilsa!
:hi: :hug:
Looks like a Jazzy advertisement. What's with the Dick Cavett look poppy's sporting?
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:49 PM
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114. When I first saw the pic I thought the sign on the windshield was PhotoShopped
but it's apparently legit.

Arrogant fucks.:puke::grr::banghead:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:55 PM
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117. Hickies?
That ought help us lose our appetites.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:56 PM
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118. I think you should market it as a weight loss program.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:15 PM
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128. Anything involving Babs will do that. nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:00 PM
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120. Poppy living the high life he has committed crimes too.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:19 PM
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131. Yep. We can pretty much lay Iran-Contra at his feet. And there are
others that may be more difficul tto prove, but just as real and just as treasonous.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #107
126. Hi Ilsa! Hugs!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :grouphug:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:58 PM
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119. Good night truthseekers, have a great one tomorrow!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:07 PM
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121. yea, nite smokey, chloe is waiting for me too.
she sleeps on my side of bed, she is so good. nite you guys, and keep it lit.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:17 PM
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130. Talk at you tomorrow! Sweet dreams! nt.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #121
133. Good Night alyce, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #119
127. Good Night smokey nj, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:16 PM
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129. Bye, darlings! nt
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:32 PM
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132. Good Night Ilsa, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:39 PM
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134. Alright, Mike has to go off on this guy.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 10:39 PM by Ilsa
Caller, it is too late for Colin Powell to set the record straight.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:57 PM
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135. Good Night Everyone Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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