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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:36 PM
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Hillary Chat #1 - I must say she impressed me, and I am part of the "Hillary can't win" camp
I still feel that she has so much baggage that Karl Rove is having wet dreams over the thought of her getting the nomination, and many of us progressive liberals hate her stand on Iraq - but that said - I was impressed by most of her answers. Some ticked me off, but I will be back tomorrow.

So what did you all think?

My biggest fear isn't her as President - it's that nominating her gives the White House to another repuke. She isn't a liberal or a progressive but she would be a damn sight better than bush.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:38 PM
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1. Don't be fooled by a DLC'er
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:43 PM
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6. I take it you didn't watch
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:48 PM
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13. Of course not
the evil DLC rays can kill!

I seen it.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:13 PM
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21. Exactly
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:39 PM
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2. I was very impressed as well. She was very candid and got quite passionate on issues like...
...alternative energy and healthcare. The environment being my biggest issue, I was happy to see that she wasn't just status-quo-Democrat on that issue and instead seemed very ambitious and even somewhat aggressive on those issues.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:41 PM
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3. I missed it, but will try to catch the next one.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:42 PM
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4. I only caught the last 5 minutes. I'm also in the "Hillary can't win" camp.
I also am leary of the DLCers. However, I think it was a very smart move.

Did she get a question about her IWR vote?
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:44 PM
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8. Yes.
She began with the IWR issue and I thought she did very well explaining her vote, though I wouldn't have voted the same way.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:46 PM
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12. Do you think the chat will be available for viewing later?
I'd really like to see how she responded. I'm also one who wonders if I can ever forgive those who voted for the IWR. I have a lot of anger about that, and I'd have to get past that in order to support Hillary. (Although I would vote for her if she gets the nomination.)

Thanks for the info.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:47 PM
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23. I'm really not sure. You should check her site tomorrow. My guess is they will all be made available
on her website with her announcement video and others.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:36 AM
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26. Thanks so much for the info! I'll do that!
Cheers!

:toast:
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fgarciava Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:43 PM
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5. Go Joe!
First post....
Me too I really am not optimistic that Hillary can take either Florida or Ohio..
I am no expert but the same goes for Barrack Obama (although I root for him)
I guess the safe bet would be Joe Biden knows a lot about foreign policy and never heard anything about him that will cause some commotion.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:44 PM
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7. Joe Biden--ain't gonna happen.
he's been running for secretary of state since 2003.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:44 PM
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9. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:46 PM
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11. Welcome to DU!
Biden actually ran for prez in '88 and had to drop out because he plagiarized something. I can't remember details, but it was eons ago.
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fgarciava Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:52 PM
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15. Looking forward to spirited discussions and tons of learning
Exactly what I am looking forward to learning something, I didn't have any interest in politics since about couple of months ago realizing how Bush and others are ruining my future with reckless spending, stupid foreign policy, among others : )......But wouldn't you prefer someone like Joe Biden rather than Hillary, although I claim to be a Democrat I don't like her at all I can see myself voting for a John McCain than voting for Hillary..
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:03 PM
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17. If you don't like Bush
McCain shouldn't be your cup of tea, either. He's been Bush's best friend the last few years, all because he wants the GOP nomination. He has no principles left.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:45 PM
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10. bush = baggage. and it was all full of garbage.
did it matter? almost 1/2 of the voters voted for him in 2000 and somewhat less in 04 but still a bunch.
why worry about any democrats baggage? its not the baggage, its how they carry it. she is strong enough.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:49 PM
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14. Sooo she can respond, has had twenty five years of practice.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:55 PM
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16. Her differences are limited to the social issues.
Edited on Mon Jan-22-07 07:56 PM by nebula
But on the most critical, pressing issues of our time--economic, trade, war, foreign policy--Hillary's positions are only marginally, if at all, different from the GOP contenders.

And her voting record proves it.

Oh yeah, and she's a woman--which is really the only 'meaningful' difference between her and the Republicans. If you can call that meaningful.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:13 PM
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19. hmm, you might want to look into her voting record on trade & economic issues
before saying she voted the same as GOP contenders. Here record is considerably different than McCain's for instance.


Here: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm

Or here: http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=WNY99268
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:13 PM
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18. I sure hope you've got lots of asbestos
you're gonna need it!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:22 PM
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20. Anyone is better than
bush so that's not saying much.

hillary is my senator and I remember her ignoring her constituents and voting for the IWR and the last I heard she's hangin' out on the fence in the middle of the road.

The War On Iraq didn't go quite as you expected did it, hil&bil?

Too bad about that triangulation thingy.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 09:43 PM
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22. So where is this chat?
Edited on Mon Jan-22-07 09:50 PM by Nite Owl
Is there anything up on her website?

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/

I signed up yesterday and thought there was supposed to be an email beforehand. Didn't get any. I was out and thought I would come home and read the transript and there is nothing about it on the site except to register which I did already.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:51 PM
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24. I got an email. It's also on the main page of her website. 7pm Eastern tomorrow is a new one. n/t
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 12:15 AM
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25. I checked even my 'bulk'
mail to see if it went there. I signed up yesterday and never got it. I guess I'll have to go sign up again and see if it works this time.
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