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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:45 PM
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Because this one photo pisses me off so much....
...here's a reminder of why our fury must never abate until this thing is kicked to the curb:

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:47 PM
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1. He looks as guilty as hell.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:10 PM
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12. I disagree. He just looks fucking clueless.
Sociopaths don't do guilt. It isn't in their repertoire of faked emotions.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. Yes he looks clueless but...
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 05:52 PM by wildbilln864
he's guilty! Why wasn't he worried that a plane would be targeting him there at that school from the Saratoga airport 5 minutes away, if it was indeed an unexpected attack? He was there for 30 more minutes IIRC. :grr:
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:37 PM
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25. The Secret Service was not worried either.
The dog that did not bark, so to speak. That was the first clue that leads down the road of truth.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 11:07 PM
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31. How can that be?
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 11:11 PM by wildbilln864
If it was a surprise attack. How'd they know they'd be safe for the next half hour. :shrug:
Maybe it had something to do with members of Bush's cabinet writing this,
"The process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor. " and http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6618076520601759159&q=daniel+hopsicker+symposium&ei=s9hqSIPcGYyYrAKs1oXaDA&hl=en">knowing exactly what the highjackers were going to do.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:33 AM
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32. I totally agree that he knew
I just don't think that translates to guilty. I don't believe the silverspoon sociopath has it in his repertoire to do guilty. That would require having a conscience, something that monkey doesn't have.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. well i agree he's
a sociopath. I wasn't meaning he felt guilt. Just that he is guilty. :hi:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:00 AM
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34. With that, I definitely agree
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:26 AM
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37. Hey tavalon and wildbill!
It's nice to read comments that don't cause those mini brain seizures from cognitive dissonance.



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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #37
52. okay.
:hi:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:04 AM
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40. I have always wondered about that.
I just can't believe that the SS would let him stay in that school with planes still in the air considering the fact that his schedule was well known.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:52 AM
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48. It all starts there.
None of the facts to emerge afterwards are in line with the official conspiracy theory.

We do not have to prove what did happen to understand we are being told a lie.

That leaves us with a government so deceitful that it would lie a nation into war, killing so many it doesn't bother to count them. And that is the greatest bipartisan accomplishment of the administration.

Pass the chips and beer, the game is on ESPN.

:mad:
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:06 AM
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49. PS
I love that graphic, it's my new background. Thanks.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:56 PM
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55. Yeah, interesting that, eh?
I noticed way back with JFK, people tried to paint the SS as "confused"' by the abrupt changes in plan and by their replacement by others. Uh huh. These people are uber trained. They know all including any conspiracies on board.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #12
47. Looks like he could not care less. Wonder why his followers can't see that?
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 08:40 AM by Blue State Native
:shrug:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #47
66. He still has followers?
Will wonders never cease!
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:47 PM
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2. That cuts right to the chase, bro.
Never forgive, never forget.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:48 PM
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4. Never....
...
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:47 PM
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3. I'll never forget that look on that day.
My first insticnt was "He knew, he knew it would happen!".
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:49 PM
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5. My first thought was
he knew he was screwed. We were being attacked and he had no idea what to do.

But now I agree with you, I think he knew and was trying not to give it away.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:15 AM
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43. he was probably trying so hard not to smirk.
this man DOES NOT care about all the people he has killed and the number in Iraq and Afghanistan still mounts. He is A WAR CRIMINAL, and this shameful Congress we have is doing crap.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:09 PM
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11. That video was released much later than that day (months later)
What we did see was Bush reading a one or two line note to announce the towers had been hit and then taking off. We saw absolutely nothing of him for the rest of the day, as we saw nothing from anyone in the White House. What we saw was Rudy Guiliani running around NY and giving up press conferences and releases all day. Lot's of people have criticized him for that but I remember being very relieved to hear the latest updates.

Then we found out that Bush arrived at the White House about 7 pm and that he went to bed at his regular time. I don't remember when the next time we saw anyone from the White House was. But Rudy kept up the press conferences for days on end.

Much later, Bush gave an interview to some German newspaper while he was in Germany and the journalist asked him where he was all day on 9/11. Bush's answer was that he was "getting out of harms way".

We're lucky the video tape of him sitting like the class dunce, looking guilty and unperturbed at the same timed came out. Someone got to it before the Secret Service or the FBI got the chance. Otherwise we wouldn't be any the wiser today.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:21 PM
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69. "He went to bed at his regular time"
Slept like a baby, I'll bet...


How many of us slept that night?

I know I didn't.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:23 PM
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71. I slept but I had a night terror
One of those wonderful holdovers from PTSD. I hadn't had one in almost five years but I did that night. I hate those because they're a combination of a nightmare and sleepwalking. Well, sleepwalking isn't quite right, sleeprunning is more like it. At least I didn't break my foot that time, but I certainly didn't sleep well that night.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:50 PM
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6. He knew. (n/t)
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:56 PM
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7. He knew....
...on August 11th.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:03 PM
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9. Maybe they should have given him the Presidential Daily Briefing in pictures rather than words.
He is, after all, a truly stupid boy.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:21 PM
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18. Wasn't it August 6, 2001?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:02 PM
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27. Damn right he knew. Here's the proof he knew...
Commander AWOL and his republicon chickenhawk homelander cronies had over 60 (sixty) separate warnings, but they were too busy giving millions to the Taliban.

Ptooey...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:22 AM
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45. Of course he did....n/t
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:57 PM
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8. Here's a DU pictorial anthology.



Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5360042



But here's one of my recent faves ...



I think it speaks volumes.




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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:05 PM
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10. He looks guilty, because he is!
I want him held accountable for the murder and destruction he is guilty of.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:11 PM
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13. He's thinking, "Uh-oh. Everybody was right"
"Oh, well. Dick can bail me out."
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:13 PM
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14. Yep, that's what I thought to
That is a look that, to me, says "Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, I'm gonna get blamed for this".
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:19 PM
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16. 100% right on.



You can see the little wheels and gears turning .....

"Now how can I make someone I don't like look bad over
this while making myself look good at the same time?"





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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:56 PM
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24. You're right
But the training wheels fell off his brain-bike a long time before.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:14 PM
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15. "Where's my mommy?"
:cry:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:21 PM
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17. Wha? He's just doing what he's told!
It was best for him to remain seated and STFU for the whole plan to come to fruition. No need getting in the way. Cheney's safe, all is well.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:50 PM
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22. and he didn't even....
ask Card how, what, or where. And Card evidently knew he'd have no questions or response! :grr:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:43 PM
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19. and remember, he said that this was after he had been informed
of the first plane hitting the tower, before he went into the classroom.

He said that he watched it on TV when it happened ...

well before there was any idea that someone had a tape of the first plane hitting the first tower ...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:46 PM
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20. Do you know what that look is?
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 05:46 PM by devilgrrl
It's the "holy shit, they're really going through with this. This is really happening. I thought they were just fucking with me" look.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:51 PM
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28. Exactly: "Damn, it's really happening."
If the Rethugs weren't so morally challenged, they might have provided him with a better script on appropriate behavior becoming of a president after his country/countrymen have been attacked.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:06 PM
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57. i thought it was more of "damn, they did it"
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 05:08 PM by onethatcares
"now what am I gonna do?". yeah, I always thought he looked guilty of more than holding the book upside down. That was the day our country took the d staircase to hell, and the media went along with it, along with millions of others. That is the day Democracy died in total here in the united states of america.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:23 PM
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63. ding ding ding!!!!!!!!!! nt
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. I have always thought the same
You can see right through that motherfuckers posture.

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:24 PM
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64. ding ding ding!!!!!!!! nt
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:55 PM
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23. looks like a total dipshit

without a fucking clue what to do.

really pisses me off, and yes we should nevr forget that he could have prevented the attacks.,

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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:01 PM
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26. Thanks for this, Aviation Pro...
...I remember watching this video when it came out, and it was so damned obvious that his reaction was just... off. It was not how any normal person would have reacted, not even a puppet president, if they did not have some inside knowledge about what was going on. The very best spin you can put on it is criminal dereliction of duty: he was obliged to take command and he did not do so.

Oh you can laugh and say that's the last thing we needed, then or now. Hard to disagree. But the fact remains, there is a defined chain of command, and the CIC is at the top. He had the ultimate responsibility for the nation's defense that morning and he did nothing except waste 30 minutes and then high-tail it out of there, not to be heard from again for another day and a half or more...

He and the rest of the cabal are guilty as sin, and I pray that the truth will one day come out. It may be the single thing that could make Americans mad enough to take action against this lot: if we knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that our highest officials perpetrated this act, there would be hell to pay.

BTW I do recognize that there is a possibility -- however slight -- that it was not MIHOP. That is why we would need proof positive before doing anything about it. All I want is the truth.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:33 PM
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30. Bush Knew.
There he is, just told a second plane has been hijacked and flown into the World Trade Center, a half hour after he’s been informed that a plane was hijacked and flown into the World Trade Center. He doesn’t even wink when Andy Card tells him, “America is under attack,” let alone scramble the Air Force.



At BEST, this shows criminal dereliction of duty. Most LIKELY, it shows treason.

Plot to assassinate Bush – reports

Ashcroft Flying High

Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

Genoa braces for G8 summit


Here’s more on the warnings the administration received BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11, 2001:

Rice More Sordid Than Foley

On her recommendation, Tenet briefed Ashcroft and Rumsfeld (not Powell, though).

Rumsfeld, Ashcroft said to have received warning of attack

An exasperated Tenet then ordered an underling to brief Monkey in Crawford in August.

While Bush vacationed, 9/11 warnings went unheard.

Here’s what seals the deal for me:

Bin Laden determined to strike in US

Then, he turned around and said to the CIA briefer:

"All right. You've covered your ass now."



The crazy monkey IS a traitor.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #30
35. Actually, the President was whisked away to an undisclosed and secure location immediately
and was directing things from there (granted, he seemed to be directing them in such a way as to insure maximum damage).

The elephant in the room that many don't want to talk about is that Cheney is and has been the President of the United States for almost eight years.

The figurehead was left in place for a photo op, because, of course, there was no danger to the figurehead. Amazingly, most people took this photo op at face value, not asking the questions that have been asked her since day one.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 02:07 AM
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38. The exact timeline
has been reconstructed in this article:

An Interesting Day: President Bush's Movements and Actions on 9/11

by Allan Wood, Paul Thompson


“It was an interesting day.”—President Bush, recalling 9/11 (White House, 1/5/02)



http://www.historycommons.org/essay_pf.jsp?article=essayaninterestingday - Printer friendly view

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #38
54. Did you read my post?
Or only the first sentence?

I don't disagree with what happened to the figurehead that day.

I'm saying that Dick Cheney is and was the real President.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #54
62. Yes, I did read your entire post,
and I agree with you that Cheney is the one who calls the shots. The link to the timeline that day was an addition I thought might be helpful to some people around here.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:40 AM
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65. Oh, I misunderstood and yes, it's good to remind people that he was incommunicado
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #35
46. yea, Cheney was the mastermind behind the whole operation
wasn't he the one who called down the fighter pilots or something like that, and he was in his bunker.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:38 PM
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61. Actually, he wasn't
In fact, after Card told him of the second aircraft strike (thus undoubtedly proving it was a terrorist attack) Bush remained in the classroom and on campus for nearly another half-hour.

Yes, 25 minutes.

Card leaned over at 9:05 am to tell him that the second aircraft struck. Bush spoke to reporters at Emma E. Booker Elementary School at 9:30 am.

He was still on the campus, not "whisked away to an undisclosed and secure location immediately."


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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #61
67. Cheney is the President, if you need that spelled out in black and white
I'm very familiar with where the figurehead was and what occurred at Booker. I know all about that damn goat.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #61
68. ps
Please don't respond to my stuff in less you're willing to read the whole thing. It was, after all, only three sentences long. It wasn't a treatise.

Second sentence in the body of the message.
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:10 AM
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36. We need that on a billboard next to the idiot one with the twin towers
urging people not to vote for Democrats. THIS is the image of contemporary Republican leadership at our nation's darkest moments.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:01 AM
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39. Ive seen that expression before...
A deer in the headlights...
or questioning himself, thinking "they said no one would be killed."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:10 AM
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41. he knew cheney's plan was enacted.
and he was having visions of grandeur, and of course being defiant to his father.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:13 AM
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42. Here I am looking pResidential and concerned, just like they told me.
Later I will say I didn't want to frighten the kids by running out of the room.

Sure am glad they brought an extra set of Underoos for the plane ride though.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:21 AM
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44. I only wish we could channel all this outrage we have and
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 08:29 AM by alyce douglas
do something, we need to see them pay for their crimes.

We should make copies of that picture and send it to the WH and say WE KNOW.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #44
70. Uh huh, just make sure YOU send it from an undisclosed location
I'm worried that we're about to get to the stage of people disappearing.
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Trailrider1951 Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:34 AM
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50. This little video does a lot to explain Dumbya's mindset....
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:40 AM
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51. I've seen that look
like a little kid thinking "I got away with it, and you can't do anything about it!" :P
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:45 PM
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53. In before the move. 911 was an inside job.
Do your homework people.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:57 PM
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56. He's looks GUILTY!
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:13 PM
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58. Is that satire or irony?
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:30 PM
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59. It's undiluted rage....
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60. He should've been impeached for that alone.
The CIC literally sat there and did NOTHING after just being told "America is under attack".
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