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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:56 PM
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“We’re not doing impeachment, but he can talk about it,”
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 01:03 PM by lame54
It's unbelievable that no matter how good a case he may present it has already been decided. How do these people keep their jobs?

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=11866

The House Judiciary Committee may let anti-war Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich present his case for impeaching President Bush before the August recess, the panel’s chairman said Monday.

Chairman John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., said Judiciary will take a broad look at the behavior of the Bush administration, and Kucinich can lay out his arguments as part of that as-yet unscheduled hearing.

Kucinich, D-Ohio, intends to formally offer a resolution on Tuesday that accuses Bush of lying to Congress in order to get approval to invade Iraq.

Conyers said he wants a public discussion of the issues being raised by Kucinich, but does not plan to take any action on the resolution. “We’re not doing impeachment, but he can talk about it,” the chairman said.

He said such a hearing would continue oversight of the executive branch that has included hearings on the exposure of the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame and the firing of U.S. attorneys.

The resolution that Kucinich has told the House to expect on Tuesday will be his fourth impeachment measure.

An earlier resolution against Bush (HRes 1258) and two against Vice President Dick Cheney (H Res 333, H Res 799) were referred to Conyers’ committee, which took no action on them.

Bush and Cheney leave office on Jan. 20, 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwvSwOP7Ow
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:58 PM
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1. complicity
I no longer give politicians any benefit of the doubt. No on important issues like this...
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:00 PM
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2. Hearing date: November 6.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:05 PM
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4. NO WAY
If that's the case it's likely that a Republican will be head of the committee.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:57 PM
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9. How do you figure?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:58 PM
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10. The new Congress does not take office until January 3, and no rational person is suggesting that
Republicans will be in control then.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:05 PM
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3. Come on congress. Let's do it.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:28 PM
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5. It's pretty obvious to me that Conyers is dirty.
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 01:28 PM by AndyA
And Bushco has the goods on him.

If Conyers were clean, he'd have no reason to not act on something of this severity. Conyers is complicit in Bushco's crimes. He needs to go. John Conyers IS NOT DOING HIS JOB, which is to protect the Constitution.

When you have a pResident LIE to Congress and the American people in order to start an unnecessary war, in which thousands of U.S. Soldiers will lose their lives, and nothing is done about it, members of Congress who do not act are just as guilty as Bush. They are not protecting the Constitution, they are allowing it to be compromised.

Conyers needs to go.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:00 PM
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6. Every single last freaking one of them needs to go.
Gut the whole damn government. Only then will we get impeachment back on the table.
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:46 PM
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7. FBI has been going after his wife..
(WXYZ) Our reporting partners at the Detroit News are reporting that the FBI has electronic surveillance that links Detroit City Council President Pro Tem Monica Conyers to the Synagro scandal.

The evidence reportedly proves that Conyers received either a payment or payments in connection with the city-approved sludge contract.

more...
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=55ceb5e0-83c7-4cdf-9347-e05c4ab4e98a

Charlie LeDuff / The Detroit News
DETROIT -- Sam Riddle is no snitch. The Detroit political warhorse says his answer was simple when FBI agents approached him to wear a wire to ensnare onetime client, Detroit Councilwoman Monica Conyers.

"I told them to go f--- themselves," Riddle said Tuesday over a bowl of oatmeal. He laughed. "If you want to indict my black a--, then indict me."

Riddle said he was stunned to learn he is part of an FBI probe into the City Council's approval of a $47 million contract to handle sludge removal. At the time of the November vote, he served as a political consultant to Conyers, who initially opposed the deal and then reversed course and supported it.

more...
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/METRO/807020340
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:14 PM
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13. If she is dirty, than should she be protected??
Just asking??

I want due diligence and all, but I thought/think that the name of the game is no one is above the law.

(And believe me living in the SE corner of Wisconsin allows me a great vantage point to observe GOv Blago and Mayor for life Daley and their shenanigans, and they are also both dirty. Look it up if you do not believe me, Fitzgerald is investigating them both).
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:51 PM
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8. the Dems NEED Bush. It maintains the false "dem-repub paradigm"
the do nothing dems need the do bad things- republicans so they can each justify their existences based off of the other guy's presence.

It's really about the "haves" v. the "have nots". Pelosi is a "has". Conyers is a "has". Congress is a "has" and WE are the "have nots". They need us to argue amongst ourselves while they continue to loot and plunder. If we should get together and turn against them, things might change, but the system s set up against that idea.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:00 PM
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11. Guilty!
Conyers is a complicity instructor.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:05 PM
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12. K& R. Where is this "hope" we are being told about every day?
Where is the outrage? Where is the shame?

America, leaving because we love it.
:kick: & R



click the pic and sign the petition
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:22 PM
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14. clicked and signed
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:44 PM
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18. Thank you very much. n/t
:kick:

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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:25 PM
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15. What do they have on Conyers? Why is he just rolling over????!!!
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:18 PM
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21. They don't have anything on him
He's just a traitor.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:31 PM
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16. I keep trying to like Conyers, but he keeps letting us down. nt
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:39 PM
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17. Why am I not surprised.
:eyes:
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:08 PM
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19. It's time to fire them all, with very few exceptions...
This web site is set up to channel the outrage into mass firings of every single senator and member of the house, with the exception of maybe a couple dozen who still represent their constituents instead of their corporate sugar daddies.

If this is how professional democratic politicians treat their constituents, I'll take my chances with amateurs. After a mass purge, at least their replacements will fear the people again. They'll probably be a little less amenable to the corporate bribocracy, too.

The rewards begin the second Pelosi, Hoyer, Harman, Reid, every single blue dog and all republicans begin their concession speeches.


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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:14 PM
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20. Today Dennis Kucinich said...
This afternoon, at approximately 5 p.m. (EDT), the Clerk of the House of Representatives will give the first reading of the Article of Impeachment of President George Bush. Article One charges the President with deceiving Congress with fabricated threats of Iraq WMDs to fraudulently obtain support for an authorization of the use of military force against Iraq.

Once the Clerk reads the bill, I will move to refer the bill to the Judiciary Committee for hearings. I believe the American people have a right to an open airing of the charges against this President. Did he or did he not lie to take us into a war? I believe the evidence is overwhelming that President Bush knew that Iraq was not an imminent threat, was not in possession of WMDs at the time, and had nothing to do with 911 or with al Queda's role in 911. And yet, despite having facts to the contrary, he took the U.S. into war with devastating consequences for our troops, our nation, and the people of Iraq. Congress must hold hearings.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:53 AM
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22. Isn't this exactly what those who have been pushing for impeachment wanted?
They have argued that impeachment hearings would uncover such compelling evidence that even Republican would have to support throwing Bush out.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:02 AM
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23. They Want Ponies
Maybe if Kucinich's special witness is Kreskin or some big time hynotist who somehow puts a spell on all the Repugnicans, maybe that could make things happen. :sarcasm:

It's baby steps...and tangible progress that voices are being heard, just not in the ears that would make a difference. I'm looking forward to these hearings and I hope Kucinich invites Jon Turley, John Dean, Bruce Fein and several other Constitutional scholars to make this hearing one that lays the groundwork and explains to all not just why impeachment should move forward but also what the process entails. I'd like to hearing what Judiciary Committee members are thinking and let the chips fall where they may.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:17 AM
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24. I think IMPEACHMENT is what we want...
The heaerings are great and as the more exposure of their crimes the better.
But, why has it already been decided?

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 09:22 AM
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25. This shows, to me anyway, that Conyers has skeletons in his closet that he wants to keep there
Conyers is being Blackmailed as most of them are. its so obvious to me
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