Soviet-era compound in northern Poland was site of secret CIA interrogation, detentions

[helderheid]

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Sovietera_compound_in_Poland_was_site_0307.html

Soviet-era compound in northern Poland was site of secret CIA interrogation, detentions

Larisa Alexandrovna and David Dastych
Published: Wednesday March 7, 2007

US, Britain asked Poland to join clandestine program

POLAND -- The CIA operated an interrogation and short-term detention facility for suspected terrorists within a Polish intelligence training school with the explicit approval of British and US authorities, according to British and Polish intelligence officials familiar with the arrangements.

Intelligence officials identify the site as a component of a Polish intelligence training school outside the northern Polish village of Stare Kiejkuty. While previously suspected, the facility has never been conclusively identified as being part of the CIA's secret rendition and detention program.

Only the Polish prime minister and top Polish intelligence brass were told of the plan, in which agents of the United States quietly shuttled detainees from other holding facilities around the globe for stopovers and short-term interrogation in Poland between late 2002 and 2004.

According to a confidential British intelligence memo shown to RAW STORY, Prime Minister Tony Blair told Poland's then-Prime Minister Leszek Miller to keep the information secret, even from his own government.


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[bdamomma]

1. God, this story is a bombshell, I just e-mailed to Countdown

thanks

[helderheid]

2. Thank you!

To The Hague!

[helderheid]

23. !!

[ajeffersonian]

46. Is it?

I remember reading about it months ago...

[MyNameGoesHere]

3. No wonder dipshit kept

reminding us about Poland. Remember all that "And Poland too" shit?

[helderheid]

4. I just sent this to Keith

[bdamomma]

5. you know this country resembles Germany in the 1930's

their citizens lived in nazi secrecy just like us, disgusting absolutely disgusting, we got to get these thugs out now.

[helderheid]

7. I agree - and I'm astonished this thread keeps dropping! This is THE story today.

[lala_rawraw]

26. I am astonished that coulter is getting more

play on the left leaning blogs than this story... in fact, i have seen it mentioned maybe a few places. plus, while i think the conviction is important too, we can multitask i would think enough to be able to understand the value of this information. i may be wrong and i am obviously biased toward wanting this story up and out... but really, this is news and it is important. i agree with you

[helderheid]

28. I have no problem kicking my own threads (as many on DU can attest!)!

KICK!

[helderheid]

6. KICK

[suffragette]

8. Glad to recommend this - K &R

More secrets and lies.
Wonder how the rest of the Polish govt. will react to finding out this was kept hidden from them.

[helderheid]

9. thanks - I sent this to deepjournal.com as well - they are in the Netherlands

[suffragette]

11. Ah - the Netherlands

Where there is a nice town that Bush and Cheney and their neocon friends should have to visit someday - http://www.thehague.nl/

[helderheid]

12. Jazeker!

[Mr. Ected]

13. Are You Dutch?

With a name like Helderheid, I just had to ask.

I lived in The Hague for 5 years, BTW.

[helderheid]

15. I'm not, but my husband is. :) Our son was born in Holland - I lived with him there from 99-01

:hi:
We were in Zeist.

Den Haag is GORGEOUS.

[Mr. Ected]

17. I Lived in A Small Town Near Den Haag...Wateringen

Worked in the city center.

Started raising my son as a little Dutchman.

Even had another son born in Delft.

But alas, our lives took another course.

God I love the Dutch. And the true FREEDOM they enjoy.

[helderheid]

20. Couldn't agree more! We went back for a visit last year - I could easily move back but my husband

loves his job here and how much easier it is to make it to the top here as compared to there.

*sigh*

[Tuesday_Morning]

24. thanks for all your kicking!

Important to see this...

[Lars39]

10. K&R

Is Bush's buddy still the US diplomat for Poland?

[annabanana]

14. I want ALL the sites of these crimes exposed. America

has no business in this disgusting endeavor. It is a black eye on Lady Liberty.

(edit: NOM!)

[Hubert Flottz]

16. More Nazi Playbook Bushism...

POLAND...

Auschwitz - Birkenau
Belzec
Chelmno
Koldychevo
Majdanek
Sobibor
Treblinka

http://www.cympm.com/extermination.html

[myrna minx]

18. K&R for Larisa's important article. n/t

[eppur_se_muova]

19. Well, why not? We're picking up where the Soviets left off.

Starting with that well-considered invasion of Afghanistan, and proceeding through to complete economic collapse.

[helderheid]

21. good point!

[Disturbed]

22. Sen Durbin was correct.

He should never have apologized for stating the Truth.

[manic expression]

34. Now if we could only abolish private property

establish worker control over the means of production and suppress the bourgeoisie, we'd be all set.

:toast:

[eppur_se_muova]

50. Nah, we're just picking up the flawed implementation, not the ideals. nt

[lala_rawraw]

25. Thanks for posting this...

it aged me to work on this. too much:(

[helderheid]

27. You did WONDERFUL work here! Best yet! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

:hug: :yourock: :hug::hug: :yourock: :hug::hug: :yourock: :hug::hug: :yourock: :hug::hug: :yourock: :hug::hug: :yourock: :hug:

[lala_rawraw]

32. thanks, this really put a smile on my face

i am so exhausted and for some reason, after the story ran and i let it go, i just started crying and could not stop all day. thank you so much for your warmth:)

[Raksha]

36. It's painful to read it too.

Makes me feel like I'm reading about Nazi Germany. But it's an important story that needs to be told.

Thanks for everything you do, LaLa.

[myrna minx]

44. Larisa, we really appreciate all that you do.

:yourock:

[helderheid]

29. KICK FOR LA LA RA RA!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

30. Seconding that kick for LaLa!!

:kick: :hug: :loveya:

[helderheid]

31. thanks!!

:hi:

[Jcrowley]

33. More gnarly shit

in Never-Never Land

K&R

The goal of the network is not just to hold terrorist suspects and their supporters, but to collect intelligence through long-term interrogation, free from any legal restrictions or judicial oversight. The bulk of the work is carried out at facilities under US military control in Afghanistan, Guantánamo Bay in Cuba and Iraq, which together hold at least 11,000 people.(6) Most of them were detained in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq, but others were transferred from countries including Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Gambia, Indonesia, Italy, Jordan, Kenya, Libya, Pakistan, Macedonia, Malaysia, Sudan, Tanzania, and Zambia.(7)

Long before Guantánamo opened its gates to "war on terror" detainees, however, the USA had been secretly transferring terror suspects into the custody of other states, states where physical and psychological brutality feature prominently in interrogations. Known to the US Administration as "extraordinary rendition," and to its critics as the "outsourcing of torture", the program has expanded considerably, reportedly under a classified directive signed by President Bush in late September 2001.(8) It has been estimated that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), often using covert airplanes leased by fictional front companies,(9) has flown hundreds of war on terror suspects to countries including Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Syria.(10)

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR511772005

[helderheid]

35. kick

[LSK]

37. K&R

[lala_rawraw]

38. Fallout has started

http://www.dziennik.pl/Default.aspx?TabId=14&ShowArticleId=34526
http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/wydarzenia/070308_4.html

these are the two biggest papers, their version of NYT and WaPo

now the rest of the Polish daily newspapers (on A1 for all of them)
http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/1499444,12,item.html
http://www.wprost.pl/ar/?O=102654

and I am getting lovely emails such as this one:

"Good job. The terrorists must be very pleased to have empty-headed journalists doing their work for them. Whatever interrogation methods were used at that site, I am confident no one was decapitated.

evil American,"

[CGowen]

41. It must be funny in Poland now

WSI, the rocket scandal and now this.

[newyawker99]

42. Hi CGowen!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[lala_rawraw]

47. i don't know about funny

but strange to be sure

[CGowen]

49. And the people are angry that they send troops to Iraq,

but the Polish people are not allowed to move the USA and get green cards anymore.


I suspect the the US is more interested in Mexicans as cheap labor, than people who have experiences in a totalitarian regime.(And would easily see where the US is heading)

[Blue_Tires]

39. k+r

[CGowen]

40. MI-5 Blair is telling "New Europe" Leszek what to do.......n/t

[Ghost Dog]

43. k&r. See eg. also:

An American in Romania 15.12.05
Sunday Mirror: CAMP X-RAY..IN POLAND 29 January 2006
Lambert's Blog Mon, 2006-12-04
The Guardian: Deep in Le Carré country, the remote Polish airport at heart of CIA flights row Thursday January 4, 2007
Wikipedia: Stare Kiejkuty (base)

[helderheid]

45. CHECK IT!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x368238

[Nutmegger]

48. REVOKE POLAND'S EU MEMBERSHIP!!!

The host countries must be held accountable.