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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:10 PM
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Southern Baptist Scholar Links Spouse Abuse to Wives' Refusal to Submit to Their Husbands
One reason that men abuse their wives is because women rebel against their husband's God-given authority, a Southern Baptist scholar said Sunday in a Texas church.

Bruce Ware, professor of Christian theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said women desire to have their own way instead of submitting to their husbands because of sin.

"And husbands on their parts, because they're sinners, now respond to that threat to their authority either by being abusive, which is of course one of the ways men can respond when their authority is challenged--or, more commonly, to become passive, acquiescent, and simply not asserting the leadership they ought to as men in their homes and in churches," Ware said from the pulpit of Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas.

In North Texas for a series of sermons at the church on "Biblical Manhood & Womanhood," Ware described his "complementarian" view as what "Southern Seminary as a whole represents."

Commenting on selected passages from the first three chapters of Genesis, Ware said Eve's curse in the Garden of Eden meant "her desire will be to have her way" instead of her obeying her husband, "because she's a sinner."

What that means to the man, Ware said, is: "He will have to rule, and because he's a sinner, this can happen in one of two ways. It can happen either through ruling that is abusive and oppressive--and of course we all know the horrors of that and the ugliness of that--but here's the other way in which he can respond when his authority is threatened. He can acquiesce. He can become passive. He can give up any responsibility that he thought he had to the leader in the relationship and just say 'OK dear,' 'Whatever you say dear,' 'Fine dear' and become a passive husband, because of sin."

http://ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=10675

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:14 PM
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1. No. Just no.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:14 PM
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2. These people want to make the whole Planet submit.
even to the point of using nuclear weapons. Big men with little dicks.
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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:16 PM
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3. I'm afraid the phrase "Southern Baptist scholar" just doesn't pass the
old actual existence test.
;-)
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:16 PM
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4. This is rich....
So, the woman is at fault for wanting to think for herself... :spank:

but the MAN is also at fault for becoming abusive in the face of challenge to his authority :spank: :spank:

Or WORSE- becoming "whipped" and not asserting his authority PROPERLY (which they don't clarify) :spank: :spank: :spank:


If I EVER understand the fundie mind, will someone here kindly drive a stake through my heart?

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:19 PM
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5. Another jaw flapping ctizen of Dumbfuckistan.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:19 PM
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6. Conservative southern Baptists have "interesting" views on marriage.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:20 PM
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7. I'd like for him to be locked in a room with me and my favorite 2"x4".
We'll see how quickly he "submits".
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:23 PM
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8. The woman's fault. It's in the bible.
I can beat you because God says it's OK.

Are we in Florida?
(joke)
mark
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:27 PM
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9. I knew it, it's always been the woman's fault and we all know that if God
...were married, He would slap Mrs. God around from time to time to keep her in line to show just who is God and who isn't God!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:45 PM
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11. God isn't married?
Commitment problems?

Prefers fooling around with married women? Like Mary?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:46 PM
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12. Mary was only suppose to be 14...
so apparently God likes his women young.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 04:11 AM
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13. Seriously, Jehovah got a bum rap.
He and the Shekhina were always tight...but this thing about young native girls? There was a god in the area with a rap sheet long as your arm with that MO, but they never even investigated. But then, why would Romans investigate their own god? Thus beginning the long tradition of blaming the Jews.

Still, Zeus/Jupiter was a known offender:

Leda and the Swan.
Danae and the Golden Shower.
Europa and the Bull.....

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 12:27 PM
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10. They have scholars? roflmao. Eeeee-yiiii -- the curse of Eve on all mankind!
He shall labor by the sweat of his brow and she shall give birth in excruciating pain -- all Eve's fault, and none of his.

Hekate

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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 04:39 AM
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14. So she rebels because she is a sinner. He responds by beating her so that's a sin but

she brought it on herself so she brought the beating
on herself because she's a sinner. By her sin she made
him sin.

He submits to her willfulness to keep the peace so
sins by giving himself over to her sinful willfulness.

Looks like the SBC and the FLDS are pretty much on the
same page in terms of female slavery.

I guess when an Albanian pimp sells a 13yr old Romanian
girl to an Italian pimp in Naples it's the Romanian girl's
fault

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