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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:34 AM
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"reflexive, poisonous partisanship"
is the big problem facing our country today, according to Joe Lieberman on Face the Nation. This guy is such a traitor, supporting McCain.


:puke:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:37 AM
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1. Like the politicizing of the Justice Department, Mr. Lieberman?
I know you've been on this like a goose on a junebug, haven't you?

Why does this fraud continue to pollute the nation's airwaves?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:04 AM
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6. Because the nation's airwaves are owned and operated by frauds.
Because at this point, virtually every aspect of this nation is a fraud.

Don't blame the messenger because reality sucks, please.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:23 AM
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7. The system has certainly prostituted itself for short-term profit
Since we have to start somewhere on these Augean stables, refusing to grant Lieberman a platform or any credibility seems as good a place as any.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:41 AM
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2. "Our enemies will fear and respect John McCain,
and our allies will like him". Yeah, just the way the world fears and respects Bush.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:54 AM
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3. And he's not worried about loss of Roe v Wade, only about important things
that affect our country.

So, I guess women's rights, the rights of more than half the U. S. (and the world's) population are not important. Only the rights of white, right-wing guys who want to fight wars.

Sickening.

Al Gore most be totally disgusted with Joe Lieberman. I know that I am.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:01 AM
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4. He only cares about foreign policy, and he's got that wrong.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:13 AM
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5. The Parasites are worried about payback?
:shrug:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:45 AM
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8. He's right.
Not in his support of McCain, but in the statement about reflexive partisanship being a problem.

I'm a registered Democrat, but am not now, and have never been, a partisan. Party politics have one legitimate purpose, in my view, and that's to move issues in the best direction.

Since I have no emotional or patriotic or gang-like investment in party, I see clearly that partisanship helps feed reactionary, street-gang-like partisanship.

Democrats are just as guilty as republicans. On any day at DU, you can find someone spouting partisan hate for "them" in exactly the same manner that you will find others expressing disdain and disapproval when "they" spout partisan hate at us.

There's no difference in the sentiment, or the behavior. The only difference is in the "team" they are supporting.

This weakens both parties, enabling corruption and making them little more than propaganda tools to distract the masses.

A vibrant, healthy party would be one that is held accountable by it's own members. Neither of the two major parties in the U.S. are held accountable by their own voters, which is why we find ourselves in the position that we do.

Even the whole concept of partisanship as a dysfunction is co-opted embedded into the propaganda, as Lieberman demonstrates with that quote.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:00 PM
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9. Yeah, that's YOU, Joe.

Reflexive, poisonous dismissal of all ideology based on it's position on an arbitrarily defined scale IS partisanship. "Moderates", in my experience, are the most partisan of all factions in establishing their position. They will look at any proposal based in how they feel others will perceive it, ignore its content completely, consider it's "right" or "left" value and choose the cleverest-sounding position in the "middle" that doesn't actually change anything. They do this with a calm, implacable resolve that is motivated by nothing other than to maintain their self-image as more reasonable than anyone with a real opinion and achieves nothing more than preventing anything genuinely useful happening.
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