So now why is impeachment off the table?

[endarkenment]

it seems to me that the Libby conviction demands, at a minimum, that the house initiate impeachment proceedings against the Vice President. What exactly would be the reason for not investigating who Libby was lying to protect? Wouldn't Libby's superior, one Richard Cheney, be the obvious target of such an investigation?

[LSparkle]

1. Randi's saying the same thing right now ...

"Come on, Congress!" "This is a job for John Conyers, chairman of the Judiciary Committee."

COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, CONGRESS!!!!

[H2O Man]

2. Exactly.

Thank you.

[endarkenment]

4. And as a follow up: will they have the courage?

My guess is not. Oh well.

[Atman]

15. BWHAHAHAHA!

Dems having courage to do what is right and stand up the criminal cabal. That's a good one!

:rofl:

.

[Richard Steele]

3. At minimum!

[jaksavage]

5. Okay I am convinced

I'll get up from my desk
Put up my closed sign
put on my boots and coat
go out and pound the pavement
knock on doors and stand on street corners in protest
until
enough other people do it, that we become a movement
and we overwhelm this corrupt government
beginning decades of 'throw out the incumbent'
until we drive the scum from the pond
and it becomes a citizens duty to serve
not a millionaire's opportunity to exploit

[endarkenment]

7. You are convincing me this is the right course of action. nt.

[babylonsister]

16. A hearty welcome to DU, jaksavage!

There is scum on the pond that needs flushing. I think it's now a requirement, though I've thought that for a long time.

[porphyrian]

6. Yes, impeach cheney already. - n/t

[BuyingThyme]

8. The situation Pelosi has put Congress in is just disgusting.

Somebody has to come out and say so.

[pnwmom]

10. She's not responsible for the fact that we have a bare majority in the

Senate -- and that we'd need a 2/3 majority in the Senate in order to convict Bush or Cheney of anything.

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[tavalon]

26. We need to do it nonetheless

Even if we can't convict. The process must happen and it must happen soon.

[babylonsister]

18. Do you mean her nixing impeachment? What has she done that

makes you so irate?

[pnwmom]

9. Investigation, yes. Impeachment --

not unless we have the 2/3 majority to convict in the Senate. Too early to say.

I don't want to impeach (indict) him in the House, and then have him declared "not guilty" in the Senate -- which is what happened to Clinton, and why he remained in office after impeachment.

[Labors of Hercules]

12. Republicans don't impeach piles of their own shit.

and they only impeach Dems when it's thoroughly unjustified.

[pnwmom]

13. Exactly. If Republicans won't vote to convict, then

what good would an impeachment in the House do? I don't want Bush/Cheney to be vindicated by a "not guilty" verdict in the Senate.

[Warren Stupidity]

14. It would drag their sorry shit right out into the open.

Yes of course while the House could impeach the Senate is unlikely to convict. However unlike the trial of Bill Clinton, there really are high crimes and misdemeanors here. The impeachment of Clinton was the bullshit consequence of a bullshit investigation into a bullshit financial scandal that, when nothing was turned up there, morphed into a classic honeypot sting operation and voila - WJC got impeached over a blowjob he denied getting. The public recognized bullshit when it got repeatedly smeared in their faces, and rightly (and still to this day the republiks don't understand why) turned against the accusers and returned the blowjob denier to office. The situation here is entirely different.

there really are high crimes and misdemeanors

[pnwmom]

21. The investigation will drag it out in the open.

Without giving him a chance to feel vindicated with a not guilty verdict.

[Zhade]

20. Yeah, why even TRY to hold criminals accountable?

Next time you get robbed, don't bother calling the cops, because they might not catch the guy.

What a sad, pathetic stance you take.

[spanone]

11. You tell Me.... I'm there.

:toast:

[Zhade]

17. Cowardice.

NT!

[pnwmom]

22. Realism.

[OneBlueSky]

23. regardless of the prospects for conviction, impeachment should be ON the table to . . .

show the world that the United States has not gone completely mad, and that its citizens still have the power -- and the will -- to take action when the government is exposed as a criminal enterprise . . .

one of the worst products of the BushCo coup has been the reputation of the U.S. plummeting in the eyes of the world -- and impeachment proceedings would go a long way toward at least starting to rectify that situation . . .

[leftofthedial]

24. It's politics

citizens just wouldn't understand


just trust the congressional democrats

[tavalon]

25. Good questions all.

Methinks our congresscritters had better be answering them sooner rather than later.