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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:14 PM
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Do you believe that income plus education is equal to social class?
For example, what is the social class of a mafia boss who has a master's degree in art history?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:15 PM
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1. does he belong to the country club?
:shrug:
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:39 PM
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8. No, it's a vegetarian country club and they won't accept butchers as members.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:17 PM
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2. How does one...
Effectively distinguish between The Mafia and Wall Street? :shrug:
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:24 PM
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5. You can refuse an offer from someone who works on Wall Street.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:19 PM
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3. oh hell no. I have known some well educated people who make good
money who have absolutely no class at all...

and I have known poor and uneducated people who have more class in their little finger than anyone.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:30 PM
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6. You're using a different definition of class
The poster said "social class".
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:23 PM
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4. No. I think upbringing has much to do with it.
I've known plenty of wealthy, highly-educated people whose manners clearly demonstrate that they were, as my Gran would have phrased it, "brought up trashy."

Not poor, some of them were from families that had had money for generations. "Trashy." As in "Having no respect for the humanity and dignity of themselves AND those around them."

Such people were pointed out to my siblings and I as Awful Warnings of how we'd turn out if we didn't listen to our elders and do our school work to the best of our ability.

I think social class is far more complex than easily-categorized sociological factors.

thoughtfully,
Bright
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:30 PM
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7. No, it's income plus conditioning
There are some stupid ass know nothing unbelieveably rich folks

who have managed to take control of pretty much everything

including the things that condition the rest of us to just accept their bs

but, they have no education at all in what is correct.

And they think their social class is somehow more worthy than ours
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:59 PM
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9. No. When I think of social class, in the U.S.,
Edited on Mon Jun-16-08 11:12 PM by delete_bush
I tend to consider those of the elite upper class, whose wealth was created primarily by business inheritance. Mostly in the Northeast. With the nouveau riche scrambling for entry. Great theater.

It's how I remember the Republican party prior to its takeover by the fundies. I'm almost nostalgic for them, because regardless of motive they at least contributed to and thus helped "conserve" the arts and some other good causes. In part for the tax breaks, but much better than the current crop who at best offer a collection of Avon bottles, Thomas Kincaid paintings and wrestling.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:20 PM
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10. In this society? Income ALONE is social class.
Which makes me lower middle class these days. :(
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