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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:19 PM
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Remember Timmy Russert saw whatever it was that he and several others were sworn to secrecy.
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 04:24 PM by lonestarnot
He never did tell us what that was. :shrug: Just sayin' and I think it was something to do with Iran. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:29 PM
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1. uh, a link to an authority cd be v. helpful.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:45 PM
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9. Right after State of the Union. Other people remember Tweet bird being there. See below.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:33 PM
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2. pop'n that party balloon would get you a heart attack from Bu$hitCo..remember the guy in England tha...
said Tony Blair "SEX'D UP" the reason to go into Iraq, found dead under peculiar circumstances, supposed suicide

and the journalist writing about the hookers and dick cheney.. found dead in a river.. final decision was he committed suicide by stabbing himself 32 times then drove his Car into a river..

and don't forget the recent suicide of the DC Madam.. it's a hay day for hit men
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:47 PM
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11. CIA having a grand ole time. Maybe Timmy was going to blab.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:48 PM
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20. i expect a long summer of assinations, Ken Lay to shut him up, this last hedge fund guy to >LINK>
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 05:55 PM by sam sarrha
shut him up, dc madame.. this ICE speculation scheme will fill a lot of graves, oil, mortage looting, food looting

#1/2 http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/651928.html
There’s a few hedge fund managers out there who are masters at knowing how to exploit the peak theories and hot buttons of supply and demand and by making bold predictions of shocking price advancements to come, they only add more fuel to the bullish fire in a sort of self fulfilling prophecy." — National Gas Week, September 5, 2005 as reprinted in the US Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations’ report, "The Role of Market Speculation in Rising Oil and Gas Prices," June 27, 2006

Fiddling While We Burn

There it is in plain sight for everyone to see, exactly what I’ve been reporting for the past few years: Many individuals who are investing in oil and natural gas futures are going out in the media and trying to convince the American public that either we are out of oil or there is a serious supply shortage of crude against worldwide demand. The question is: Does it surprise you to discover that the US Senate investigated the rigging of the oil market by speculators in the summer of 2006 – and concluded that there was no supply and demand problem with oil? Did you know that their conclusion was that speculators were responsible for a 70 percent overcharge in the price of oil in the months leading up to the summer of 2006?


#2/2 http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/659081.html
What’s been happening since 2004 is very high prices without record-low stocks. The relationship between U.S. inventory levels and prices has been shredded and become irrelevant."

— Jan Stuart, Global Oil Economist, UBS Securities

"What you have on the financial side is a bunch of money being thrown at the energy futures market. It’s just pulling in more and more cash. That’s the side of the market where we have runaway demand, not on the physical side."

— Tim Evans, Senior Oil Analyst, IFR Energy Services

The Love of Money

Record high prices without record low oil inventories, analysts saying that so much money flows into oil commodities that it gives the impression of shortages, when in fact no shortage exists. That mirrors the situation in the commodities market for food, as Bloomberg pointed out in its April 28 article, "Wall Street Grain Hoarding Brings Farmers, Consumers Near Ruin": "Commodity investors control more U.S. crops than ever before, competing with governments and consumers for dwindling food supplies." That’s right; food, oil and gasoline have become an "asset class." No longer are you fighting a neighbor at the supermarket over the last box of Cheerios®; now you’re fighting the futures traders, who are actually determining what you will pay for that cereal.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:54 PM
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22. freaky and right in front of us.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:01 PM
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14. Mom Cat can find it! If anyone can! I think I'll pm her.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:34 PM
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3. I recall that. It was last year, wasn't it, early 2007?
The implication was he saw war plans for Iran.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:43 PM
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6. Yes that is also what I deduced, 2007. There must be a video link. It was a big deal.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:52 PM
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13. It was early in the year, because Dems had just won the House and Senate.
We were expecting the president to respond to the election by acknowledging the public didn't like the war and wanted us out, but he went the other way. He went for escalation, and called it the Surge. But that wasn't the part that got Russert stirred up. He said he couldn't reveal it, but the suggestion was strongly that it involved attacking Iran, possibly with tactical nukes.

Recall that Bush tried to push the attacking of Iran for most of 2007, right up to about September. That was the month the nukes were "accidently" sent from the Dakotas to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. There seemed to be a mini revolt in the military to the idea of attacking Iran, and the threat seemed to back off about then.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:35 PM
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4. Tweety was at that meeting also. He was visibly shaken after said meeting...n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:44 PM
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7. Tweety better watch his diet carefully.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:44 PM
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36. What meeting?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:37 PM
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45. This one.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:37 PM
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5. I saw him, Brian Williams, and Tweety on MSNBC one night;
they had just come from a White House "private briefing" just before the State of The Union speech, and they were all ashen-faced, and Tweety was moaning "Oh My God - we're going to bomb Iran. I can't believe it!" They continued discussing it for just a few more minutes, and after the commercial was over, they acted as if the previous segment hadn't happened. Is that what you're talking about?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:45 PM
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8. Yes! We need to find the video link.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:47 PM
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10. I wish I could help - I'm terrible at finding things like that.
I know it was the night of a State of the Union speech, either this year or last - hope that helps.
Sorry. Good Luck!!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:48 PM
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12. In NBC archives surely, unless it has been destroyed.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:19 PM
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15. date?
if we go from there, we can search youtube and other sites with the date info. maybe someone uploaded that discussion.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:26 PM
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16. The night of the State of the Union address, this year or last.
Sorry, that's all I can remember.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:34 PM
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19. found some stuff.
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 05:51 PM by lonestarnot
http://www.mensvogue.com/business/media/articles/2007/02/brian_williams

blackjackhat

He's talking at a rapid clip to his NBC colleague Tim Russert, the host of Meet the Press, about the exclusive Roosevelt Room meeting they just had with President George W. Bush. This was the plan: Williams and Russert and their network peers (Gibson, Couric, Schieffer, Stephanopoulos, and others) would get the president's perspective on the troop surge he was scheduled to announce in a few hours, and no quotes would be allowed to emerge without approval. But some doozies, like the one Williams and Russert are kibitzing about, slipped out of the president's mouth. When this happened, Williams recalls, he looked around at the ashen faces of White House aides, who quickly imposed a retroactive lockdown on that tidbit, whatever it was.

And so Williams keeps the secret,..."
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:32 PM
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17. Here is a thread from our DU archives
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:34 PM
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18. Here is a link to the story.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:53 PM
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21. This is from the post below
Before one of Bush's speeches(maybe SOTU) he invited reporters inside the WH beforehand...
I believe it was Chris Matthews interviewing Brian Williams and Timmy Russert about what was said.

Brian Williams and Tim Russert both looked shocked, and gave very awkward answers about what had been said and what they could reveal.

Williams said none of the reporters knew Bush was going to do this in advance.

When questioned about the content, Williams said the President essentially gave a view of the entire world and not just Iraq. When pressed about what was said, Williams held up his reporters notebook which he said was full of quotes he could not reveal, but would have to go back and examine to determine what all this means.

Russert was not his usual self, appeared to be off-balance, and stated he was surprised at what had happened.

There was no followup to this interview as I am aware, but it was commented on here at DU extensively.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:58 PM
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23. This infuriates me.
Russert and friends let the Little Dictator swear them to silence over things we should have been told.


He was a nice guy, and I'm sorry he died so young, but this just infuriates me.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:13 PM
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26. I am still waiting.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:30 PM
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28. What's with the faux outrage?
OP asked a question reminded by Russert's passing. Dunno what you're projecting, but your behavior is ugly.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:32 PM
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29. We've seen this all day
faux outrage indeed.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:34 AM
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42. Agree, crazy.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:39 PM
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32. Snort that would be Mr. Hankie.
Go fuck yourself.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:33 PM
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30. IIRC Mathews was in it too, and quite shaken
a meeting at the WH... what a year or two ago, at most?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:40 PM
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33. 2007 earlier than June so March probably.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:44 PM
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37. Ok reaching for me tinfoil hat
and there are many ways to skin a cat that look ahem, natural
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:07 AM
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38. Someone tore all of those hats up and put them in the dumpster. I saw a link to the
dumpster here tonight.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:29 AM
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40. CURSES
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:43 PM
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35. Mathews and bushitler are both in Paris, Brian is just back or on his way back from
Afghanistan.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:34 PM
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31. Multifront war?!
Keep in mind this could be a magazine teaser. We are talking about Men's Vogue here. Nevertheless, chilling stuff as they say.

http://www.mensvogue.com/business/media/articles/2007/02/brian_williams

March 2007

Williams writes a blog entry in his office at 30 Rockefeller Center. (Photo: Annie Leibovitz)

I know, I know," Brian Williams says into his low-end Motorola. "What if that ever got out?"

He's talking at a rapid clip to his NBC colleague Tim Russert, the host of Meet the Press, about the exclusive Roosevelt Room meeting they just had with President George W. Bush. This was the plan: Williams and Russert and their network peers (Gibson, Couric, Schieffer, Stephanopoulos, and others) would get the president's perspective on the troop surge he was scheduled to announce in a few hours, and no quotes would be allowed to emerge without approval. But some doozies, like the one Williams and Russert are kibitzing about, slipped out of the president's mouth. When this happened, Williams recalls, he looked around at the ashen faces of White House aides, who quickly imposed a retroactive lockdown on that tidbit, whatever it was.

And so Williams keeps the secret, despite my needling across a two-foot-long folding table that separates me from the anchor of the NBC Nightly News—he of starchy wardrobe, stiff hair, and Dudley Do-Right air—on a northbound Amtrak about an hour later. He can talk about it with Russert and anyone else who was in the room, but no one on the outside, not even his wife, Jane, herself a savvy onetime TV news producer. "I call them 'go-to-the-graves,'" Williams says, tallying about a half-dozen he maintains for Bush alone. Williams hastens to add that today's just-between-us moment was not meant to shield the president from a trifling embarrassment, but instead to preserve the United States' options for multifront warfare.


Yeah. How can any self-respecting country lack options for multifront warfare? Of course there will be a legitimate defense reason for it when it happens, right?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:42 PM
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34. Maybe my post was a year off? Ashen faces indeed.
It is no wonder... well nevermind on that comment tonight. LOL
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:10 AM
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39. just-between-us
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:36 PM
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43. D eamn!
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 04:38 PM by lonestarnot
I hadn't seen this before.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:53 PM
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46. "options for multifront warfare' means 'nukes.'
Because there aren't enough kids in America to operate on all of the fronts Bushco wants to wage war.
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:25 AM
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41. The terrible thing is that I don't believe it wasn't natural... but I'll never know . And that ....
speaks terrible about this administration.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:36 PM
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44. Sure does, and our media too!
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