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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:18 PM Original message |
The only way for impeachment to happen is to convince Pelosi it's politically beneficial |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. You're right |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Here's my contribution: We need to make sure that Bush |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Can you imagine how he would strut |
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ConservativeDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Personally, I think revenge is a dish best served cold. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. BINGO! I tell people it's about not about people, it's about... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Nancy won't go there for the Constitution. She might go there |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. Yeah, but that might turn enough of her voters to make her take notice. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. AND to grant her immunity |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. LOL we have a winner! Considering that DLC was SO SURE that Clinton would get nom., |
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darkmaestro019 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hmmm. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The Republican base is trotting away from McMore. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. If the pukes were smart, they'd push for Impeachment. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. DING! You get to choose anything on the top shelf. |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. I think the only thing that would work |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. If the Republicans could be given an opportunity to run away from Bush |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. well, yeah, remember they had an easy bump after Watergate |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. Carter was four years, btw /nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Yes, we know that. But, thanks. n/t |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. yes, that's right, Iran hostages ended his presidency |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. Except McCain didn't say that |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. IF Impeachment Hearings were held, the War Crimes Administration |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. So, the political argument would be, the people get to hear |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Not just failures, but CRIMES! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yeah exactly! So why do we have to put up with all this bullshit talk around. Just get to it! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Me, too. But we don't have the political power to just get to it right now. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Isn't this just insane? WTF do they need to be shown? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. They need to be shown how they can do this without losing in November. |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. all they think about is their own jobs |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. What is the political difference between a failure and a crime? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Many of chimpy's crimes were political. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. But I'm asking for political arguments that might sway Pelosi. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Power from the Criminals. Power to the People. Only the Democrats |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Works for me. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
61. Yep I am very convinced in what you are saying. |
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mirrera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. Great Civics lesson, Obama should be on board. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. If we want this to happen, I don't think we can fuck politics. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Our government has had such contempt for the law, and such devotion |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I see no downside to rehearsing in public how bad Bush has been for us. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. None at all. |
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mirrera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Law HAS to come first. It should be a no brainer... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. But here and now, law doesn't come first. We're not there |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. Nancy Pelosi must recuse herself due to conflict of interest regarding the "Gang of Eight" |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yep--great post at Kos about this |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. But you know and I know, that won't happen. |
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mirrera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. You are right. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. It's your vote... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. No. My vote doesn't have the same power as the party leadership |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
63. Agree one vote here or there may not amount to much... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
43. You need two thirds of senators willing to vote for it. That's why it won't happen n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Wrong. Conyers needs the green light fron Nancy. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
44. The Carter Effect? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. You do know the antecedents of the Iran hostage "crisis" right? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Yes... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. You live in CA...what do her constituents think of her....? |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It was such a surprise to me that she won her primary by 84% |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Major burn out all over the district and no money. n/t |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Well...maybe it's the "incumbant is good because we know them" issue or her |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
49. What if she is guilty too? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. That's not the question here. |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
55. Ruling out morality and law is a good place to start... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Did you forget the sarcasm tag? |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. No, because I wasn't using sarcasm. Read what I said. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
58. The problem is that this is a hypothetical. It's hard to "prove" that it is politically beneficial! |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
62. Once the facts are presented, the people will overwhelmingly get behind impeachment. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
65. How about it's an election year and she has Cindy Sheehan and Shirley Golub |
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