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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 04:05 AM
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"God Bless Pres. Bush. You have made good choises from a hard situation."
Reader comments from Times Online (UK) in response to their "President Bush regrets his legacy as man who wanted war" story (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4107327.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=2015164):

I hope Obama is the Nationalist we all want him to be, the war wouldn't be such a big deal if Europe, China and the rest of the countries we are spoon feeding OUR money to could generate their own cash. Forgive me but becoming a Globalist Compulsory
Consumerist Poverty state is not my idea of heaven

Sam, jackson, United States of America

For those of you anti-war/Bush people, what would of you done after 9/11? Sounds to me you would of done nothing. Another question, if it was your spouse, child, mother, father killed in 9/11, what would you have wanted done?
God Bless Pres. Bush. You have made good choises from a hard situation

Jay, Pensacola, USA

When Chairman Mau was asked his opinion on the French revolution,he said it was early days, and difficult to say,the implication being that only time and history will reveal the effectiveness of peoples actions. to judge events still ongoing ,is to say the least , unwise .

Eddy, Bury St.Edmunds, uk

Bush like so many other politicians, for example Blair, thinks so much in terms of words, as opposed to actions. He says not 'I could have acted differently' but 'I could have used a different rhetoric.' I read this I should have put a better spin on my actions. What about the actions themselves?

Mike Hughes, Copenhagen,

I believe George w has been a strong and courageous president. A rare man of integrity in todays political world. I hope the next US president is half as good, half as resolute. The world needs a strong American president.

JT, stortford, UK

Bush was the right man for the job. A true democratic Muslim nation in the Middle East will go a long way to fixing the problems there. It is a long term fix not a short term patch that liberals are so fond of. By the way, Al-Qaeda after focusing its entire efforts on Iraq is near-strategic defeat.

Scott Wells, New York, U.S.A.

What "unilateralism"? Several leading countries voted and acted in support of the UN resolutions and their ally, the USA. It was NEVER unilateral, and to say otherwise is gross negligence & cowardice. By the way, Iraq did have WMD technology, equipment, experience, intent, and did not cooperate.

Charles Smith, Columbus, Georgia, USA

History will be kind to George Bush because expectations of him were so low yet the actual positive results will last for generations.

Al-Qaeda almost destroyed. Afghanistan mainly pacified. Installing the first Arab democracy in Iraq. All necessary.

A truly decent and remarkable man.

Steven, London, UK

I think President Bush is a decent and honorable man. I did not always agree with his decisions, but I believe that he made them in good faith. I am grateful to President Bush for his leadership and I wish him well.

Cassie, Alexandria, VA, USA

If you want change in America, forget the Democrats and the Republicans. Eliminate the Electoral College, allow third parties to run more easily (both the GOP and Dems work to kill 3rd parties) and switch to a parliamentary system. As it is now, no matter who wins, its the status quo.

Bill Green, Highland, CA, USA

The libs and the Eurosocialists have used Bush as a whipping boy for the past several years. History will judge him much more kindly than the liberal pundits and the hate spewing left wingers. Wait until November. Obama will NOT be elected. The American left can hang it up, your day has passed.

Jackson Simpson, Florida, USA

I am not a fan of "W", but it is funny that the article says that it was "his refusal to ratify Kyoto". The reality is that the US Senate is the governmental body that ratifies treaties. They voted 95-0 in a pre-emptive vote against Kyoto in 1997. Amazing how W gets blamed for that!

John W., Indianapolis, USA

I am sorry to say that I believe these are the musings of a depressed man. It helps absolutely no one, especially our servicemen and their families, to hear this kind of talk which plays into the hands of the Blame America first crowd who have abused America's servicemen for years. Disgraceful.

FAK, Cincinnati,

WAKE UP NO ATTACKS since 9/11! Stop, here is what happened during Clintons years 1995-96 24 dead Saudi Arabia, 1998 - 224 dead Kenya/Tanzania 2000 USS Cole, 17 dead 1994 WTC 6 dead 1993 2 CIA killed in VA 1999 217 dead Egypt Air near NYC not to mention Somalia fiasco.

M. Allen, Downey, CA, USA

Bad legacy... Sure... But the worst ever? We have absolutely no persepective of history. How about Calvin Coolidge who did absolutely nothing to help the economy in the years before the depression? That's just one example among many... We need to caution ourselves against kneejerk reactions.

Kevin Alexander, Shreveport, LA, United States

The liberal boobs who mindlessly repeat the mantra "GWBush is evil, a failure, etc", crack me up. You people cant think for yourselves. You dont know why you say what you say, you have just heard it so much from the brahmin luddites of the Green and Democrat parties that you cant reason 4 yourselves

Mike, Texas,

it is disheartening to see the written garbage on both sides. this isn't black or white. the lack of respect shown by both sides shows intellectual weakness or dishonesty. the opposition is reasonable. live in the real world. read from more sources. it's a complex issue

Paul, Miami,

Anyone who trashes President Bush--Please do not call on my help when they blow your front door off your home or Office. We do not need a weak passive pansy in the White House. The Democrats are still crying over Florida and want The President and V P to face an unending stream of legal harasment.

Jerry, Leesburg, Fl, USA

misty: kept us protected from our global enemies? do u live under a rock or a stupid spell? approx 650,000 illegals into the USA every 6 months protecting us? try this one: bin laden was buying everything related to wmd's & approximately 20 suitcase nukes off the black market since '93. sleep well.

michael, sicklerville, USA

I applaud George W. Bush for taking a stand, even if he was the only one standing. Sure he and his administration made some errors, but history will reveal that his zealous efforts to rid the world of Islamic terrorists was not in vain. How quickly our nation has forgotten the pain we felt on 9/11

Steve, Pittsburgh, USA

Although im about it do it, i truly don't understand why people can't comment on topic. What does high gas prices have to do with the said story above? If people were to focus an ounce of the hatred they have for the President then we might be able to move forward...long live the Republic

Mark, CA, USA
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 04:27 AM
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1. Proof positive that...
...stupidity truly is the common language of the world.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 05:55 AM
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8. Yep, sad but true
:(
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:47 AM
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13. Well!
You eloquently trumped anything I could have said.

Well done!
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 04:35 AM
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2. Isn't that a Murdoch paper???? n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 04:37 AM
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3. Yes it is.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 04:40 AM
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4. Fucking idiots.
:dunce:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 04:47 AM
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5. Some good comments, but some revolting ones!
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 04:48 AM by LeftishBrit
'History will be kind to George Bush because expectations of him were so low yet the actual positive results will last for generations.

Al-Qaeda almost destroyed. Afghanistan mainly pacified. Installing the first Arab democracy in Iraq. All necessary.

A truly decent and remarkable man.'

Steven, London, UK


What are you smoking???? Al Quaeda is stronger than ever. Afghanistan is a mess, and our soldiers still being killed there. Iraq a 'democracy' at present?



'WAKE UP NO ATTACKS since 9/11! Stop, here is what happened during Clintons years 1995-96 24 dead Saudi Arabia, 1998 - 224 dead Kenya/Tanzania 2000 USS Cole, 17 dead 1994 WTC 6 dead 1993 2 CIA killed in VA 1999 217 dead Egypt Air near NYC not to mention Somalia fiasco.'

M. Allen, Downey, CA, USA


All these deaths are very tragic, but how do they compare with hundreds of thousands killed in the Bush years? 'NO ATTACKS since 9/11!' - Really? So attacks on your allies don't count?


'Anyone who trashes President Bush--Please do not call on my help when they blow your front door off your home or Office.'

Yes, because Bush was so effective at providing help when natural forces flooded people's homes. If he couldn't deal with Katrina effectively, what makes people think he could deal with anything, including terrorism, effectively?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 05:10 AM
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6. In response to M. Allen, Downey, CA, USA
Every one of the perpetrators of those crimes was caught, prosecuted, convicted, and punished.

EVERY one.

Meanwhile -- where's Osama bin Laden?

--p!
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:52 AM
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14. Where's Osama bin Laden?
I'm sorry, but he was sick that day. And he has a note from home excusing him.

But, I know what you mean and I agree.

"Bin Laden? I have no interest in finding Osama bin Laden." (Well, not a DIRECT quote, but close enough.)
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 05:47 AM
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7. Old Scott from New York is a hoot:
<snip>
A true democratic Muslim nation in the Middle East will go a long way to fixing the problems...

What a moran.

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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 05:59 AM
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9. Word of advice...
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 06:03 AM by Prophet 451
For some reason, the vast majority of comments on British news sites slant to the right. The Times now has an editorial slant to the right (they resisted Murdoch for a while but eventually were defeated), even the comments on the BBC News site (about as neutral a news organisation as it's possible to get) are almost entirely slanted to the right. Amusingly, most of the pre-screened comments accuse the Beeb of harbouring a left-wing bias.

I have no idea why this is the case but the comments on any British news site will almost always be significantly to the right of the general public.



Couple of other comments:
The guy who said we have "no perspective of history" has obviously not seen the survey done among historians, most of whom rank Bush the worst president ever and virtually all the rest rank him as one of the worst. Only 2% ranked him positively.

And the chap comparing the death toll of the Clinton years does what every Bush supporter does: They only count W's death toll SINCE 9/11. I'm not sure if this is because they blame Clinton for 9/11 or just the flagrant dishonesty that wants to remove 9/11 to reduce Bush's total but last time I checked, W was president when 9/11 happened.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:07 AM
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10. The tightie-righties are trying to make every news outlet in the world
slant right.

They're not happy that they've yelled "liberal media" whilst their ultra-conservative richie-rich's have bought up nearly all our media in the USA, now they're after making the media conservative all over the globe to brainwash the masses.

Surely some rich person on the left will catch on and start buying some media outlets.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:46 AM
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23. It's a Murdoch rag....not worth getting fired up about...
...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:11 AM
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11. "Choises" .. that's one of them Francey words, ain't it?
Moran.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:33 AM
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21. Yes, pronounced "shwa-zays," I believe...
:rofl:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 10:42 AM
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24. Wee-wee!
:rofl:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:20 AM
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12. Two things came to mind when I read the comments:
1) This is a Murdock News Paper

2) This sound like the editorial staff putting in some extra hours.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:54 AM
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15. To the "WAKE UP NO ATTACKS since 9/11!" guy:
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

"Why are you clapping?"

"Duh, to keep the tigers from attacking!"

"Um, there aren't any tigers here at all."

"Damn, this clapping thing is working better than I thought!"




whooooooooosh . . . that's the sound of that point tunneling in one ear and straight through the other. I mean, they're just not very good with this "cause and effect" thing, are they?

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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 06:58 AM
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16. Then there's this one:
"Anyone who trashes President Bush--Please do not call on my help when they blow your front door off your home or Office. We do not need a weak passive pansy in the White House. The Democrats are still crying over Florida and want The President and V P to face an unending stream of legal harasment."

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

I mean . . . seriously: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Where do these invented scenarios stem from? And why haven't Repukes discovered Spell Check yet?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 08:34 AM
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17. whoa ! a quote from Chairman "Mau".
enlightened ain't we?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 08:39 AM
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18. unbelieveable.
* is still a POS and could never relate to mainstream Americans, he will always be a fratboy and the biggest liar, and who has disgraced us all.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 08:41 AM
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19. "For those of you anti-war/Bush people, what would of you done after 9/11?"
I would of gone after the fucker who killed 3000 people and not started any new wars until I got that one right, dipshit.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 08:42 AM
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20. Four of the five most recent comments on this article
Do not look "stupid" to me:

I hope Bush lives with the rest of his life with guilt and remorse of the blood of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and 50,000 U.S. casualties (dead and wounded) on his hands.

Bush wasn't elected. He was selected.

And he is the worst president the U.S. has ever had.

Full stop.

stephanie, Montpelier, VT

The war in Afghanistan was the right course. Taliban, Al Queda, Osama Bin Laden were there. We should have increased military presence in Afghanistan and stayed out of Iraq.

Scott, New York, US


Yes, I see that GWB regrets being "viewed" as a War Monger. Apparently he does not regret being a war monger, only being viewed as one.

TomH, Chandler, Arizona, USA


Put Bush's "regret" right along side his giving up golf "for the troops". It means nothing. What does mean something is that he has created half-a-million orphaned boys in Iraq who will need to avenge the loss of their fathers during the course of their lifetimes... We're talking serious blowback.

Thomas Higgit, Reno, NV


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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 09:36 AM
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22. Yes, there's a mix...
...I didn't cherry-pick any of the responses, I just copied and pasted a large block. I really wanted to post them all, but as it stands my O.P. is in flagrant violation of the 4-paragraph rule.

:patriot:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 10:55 AM
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25. you can fool some of the people most of the time
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 11:02 AM
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26. This one is truly in orbit around a distant planet:
FAK, Cincinnati,

WAKE UP NO ATTACKS since 9/11!

Is he mental? Americans are getting attacked every day. And we did the attackers a favor by sending Americans over there for them to attack. Nowadays, instead of securing a passport and hopping on a plane, you can kill Americans by picking up a rifle and walking down the street. Over 4000 Americans have been killed in tens of thousands of attacks. Do they not count?
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 11:36 AM
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27. This is a joke right?
Can't be true.
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