To me, Bush is like a huge, rotting, bloating dead fish on the beach..leave him alone...

[HardWorkingDem]

I kind of agree with some of the other political pundits on this impeachment - just let him float around to make things worse for the Republicans. Bush is like a dead, rotting and bloated fish on a crowded shoreline - and should just be left alone because he's doing the best for the Dems right where he is. Don't poke him, move him or try to get him off the beach and let him stink up the entire Republican party, because if you try to hard to move him out, he's going to explode and send all that junk floating all over the Dems.

Yes, for principle, this lying asshole should be impeached and thrown in jail, but at the current time as Howard Fineman just said on KO, America just doesn't seem to have the stomach for another impeachment.

[Breeze54]

1. How would America even know it is an option? Kucinich's speech wasn't on any TV News that I know of!

"America just doesn't seem to have the stomach for another impeachment".

:wtf:

They don't even know what happened last night and tonight!! No one is reporting it!!!

America doesn't have the stomach for more war, continued war on Iraq or $10.00 a gal gas
or losing their homes! Perhaps the M$M is keeping silent like they were told to do by bushCo?

[HardWorkingDem]

2. Don't know about you, but I'd really like to know what is keeping them so complacent..

I'd like for someone to help me understand how the American people are so resigned to not be pissed off. Is it too many credit cards? Too much willingness to go into debt? Or what? Have they learned to love being masochists? I just don't get it.

[uppityperson]

3. Fear. That's my theory. And the idea if you pretend everything is ok, it will be.

Sort of like how people avoid going to see a doctor when they have an obvious problem.

But I'm open to other thoughts also since I really don't get it either.

[lligrd]

9. I Wonder The Same

Sometimes I wish I could catch the same disease so I wouldn't be so upset.

[crickets]

13. Corporate Media, Complicit Congress

The American people are not really a complacent and resigned bunch. That's a stereotype pulled out when it's convenient. Talk about Americans traveling overseas and all of a sudden we are loud and demanding, right? The truth is somewhere in between.

The press keeps pooh-poohing that there's anything to be pissed about, then redirecting to coverage of meaningless BS. When it's obvious that many people are pissed in spite of the obfuscation, the press ignores it. Thousands of people protest before the war even starts, and the media lowballs the numbers and frames pictures to minimize impact if they report about it at all. Phone call and letter drives from DU and others, and just because some people contact their government as a matter of course - Congress does nothing. When someone in government stands up and demands action, like Kucinich, media again ignores and/or ridicules, and some Congressional rep (often Conyers) hems about committees and meetings or talks about future subpoenas for this and that, or maybe even makes a few fiery comments... and nothing happens.

America has the stomach for impeachment.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3423670&mesg_id=3423798
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3423670&mesg_id=3423783

Lax, complicit, and manipulative media has given cover for a lapdog Congress. Every time the discussion is brought up on DU, a crop of posters whine about how impeachment is politically inconvenient, or infeasible and ill-timed for elections, about how "the party will suffer" and Bush will soon be out of office anyway...

Lather, rinse, repeat, mention that Bill should have kept his zipper up and then maybe people would take impeachment seriously: "but it was serious, because he lied!" "oh, yeah, about his cigarpenis-not a war(or other impeachable offense, please choose from long list)!" blah, blah, BLAH.

Oh, it's easy to understand. Granted, that doesn't make it any less perversely illogical or sickening.

[marions ghost]

20. Thank you

:applause:

[opihimoimoi]

4. Its so strange we impeach clinton for a blow job and a denial..and yet

Bush does worse, lies to our face, kills a bunch, allows hugh losses of monies, etc etc...not to mention his asshole cronies who fuck things up big time...

[rumpel]

5. my question is, how important is the Constitution

to our party?




How is Senator Byrd, btw. :(

[krispos42]

6. We should have the Oregon Highway Department deal with the rotting carcass

They have experience in what not to do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vmnq5dBF7Y :rofl:


And mentally placing Bush's face on the carcass makes me happy!

[AndyTiedye]

7. It's a Really Big Dead Fish, and it is Stinking Up the Whole Beach

[lligrd]

8. It Is Called Justice

and without Impeachment and war crimes trials for both Bush and Cheney there is none. How do justify those in prison or on death row for less numerous and heinous crimes than our current administration is responsible for?

[retread]

10. Can a dead fish bomb Iran? n/t

[MrSlayer]

11. Which, of course, was the reason for the Clinton impeachment.

Make impeachment a joke so you can go and commit serious fucking crimes and have the people dismiss them as "partisan politics" and "another witch hunt". You have to give Rove and Cheney credit, the gig might be up but they've pushed the power buttons to the max and will almost certainly walk away scott free. They won the proverbial game.

[malaise]

12. 100% correct re impeachment

I'm not sure they'll all walk free.

[crickets]

16. Yup. There's NO WAY that wasn't part of the plan.

People involved in this have been chugging along for decades.

[HardWorkingDem]

19. Isn't it so odd how Bush has that to thank?

Imagine, the largest benefactor from the Clinton impeachment wasn't even sort of on the scene yet. And it does make one wonder, what will ever be a "new" impeachable offense for an American president if not what Bush has done.

[Killy]

14. Madman in Power.

Bush is hardly dead. He can still do horrible things, like attacking and invading Iran in the time that he has left. He is more dangerous now than he's ever been, because he has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

We must not wait until a new administration for him to pay for his crimes. We can not simply leave him with the time he has to cause even more damage to the world and to our own country.

He is a dangerous madman, and simply ignoring him until he's out of office could prove damaging and destructive to our country, our constitution, and the world at large.

[Fleshdancer]

15. but he's not a huge, rotting, bloating dead fish on the beach...

Whether we like it or not, Bush is the President of the United States. Our President lied in order to gain approval to invade, bomb, and occupy a country that did not provoke America. From day one, people on DU believed this and now the evidence is finally staring us in the face.

So back to your analogy, the difference between Bush and a rotting dead fish is that the fish will no longer stink once enough time has passed. The stink of Bush's actions will last forever. What possible message are we sending to future generations if we decide needless wars are ok? How could this possibly make this country stronger, more secure, or credible?

[asteroid2003QQ47]

17. 63 years Benito Mussolini unforgotten!

The stink of Benito's actions will last forever as would Bush's were his bloated stinking corpse cathartically hung from an (equally appropriate) EXXON gas station girder!

"...Togliatti, the secretary of the Communist Party and the Vice-Premier of Italy ordered the execution of Duce. Colonel Valerio was entrusted with this important mission in the name of the National Liberation Committee.
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On April 28 <1945>, Colonel Valerio broke into the room where Mussolini and Clara had been resting. Valerio told them he had come to rescue them. They hurried to the awaiting car. They drove about a mile away and stopped near gate to the Villa Belmonte. They were ordered to get out of the car and stand next to the stone wall. Machine guns were raised and both were shot.
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On April 29th, the bodies were brought to the Piazzale Loreto in Milan. There, six of the corpses were hung by their feet from a girder of an Esso gas station. These included: Benito Mussolini, Clara Petacci...
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The crowd vented their anger on the corpses...
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"A couple of youths set about repeatedly kicking Mussolini’s head, leaving his face grotesquely disfigured and contorted. By 09:00am a large noisy crowd had formed, abusing the bodies as they pleased. A woman who lost five sons in the war, came forward with a pistol and shot Mussolini five times. As the growing crowd started to become a danger to itself in clamouring to see the bodies, Partisans installed order by firing into the air. People called to see the bodies and one huge man began asking which they wanted to see, then lifting the body as high as he could. People shouted not enough could see, and someone called out to hang them up. The Esso garage whose forecourt the bodies had been dumped on was only part built and much of the skeleton framework showed. Ropes were found and some bodies were strung-up by their feet, Mussolini first, leaving heads about 6 feet from the ground.
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Achille Starace, a fanatical fascist and former Party Secretary, was in the hands of the Partisans at this time. He was brought to the square to see the bodies, then shot and his body added to the array."

Bombacci-Gelormini-Mussolini-Petacci-Pavolini–Starace

http://www.ww2f.com/wwii-general/10750-mussolini.html
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070411102915AAuNJWP

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Human beings are so made that the ones who do the crushing feel nothing; it is the person crushed who feels what is happening. Unless one has placed oneself on the side of the oppressed, to feel with them, one cannot understand.
--Simone Weil

[Sundoggy]

18. "Put your ear close and hear...

...the faint chattering of the songs that are to come."

William Berry

[TexasObserver]

21. but I like to poke with a stick such things when I see them!

[JackRiddler]

22. You are referring to the most successful administration since Roosevelt's

This regime hopes to commit its greatest crimes in its final months, and also to flip the election to McCain in the process. The agenda for this fall involves the bogus 9/11 tribunal and a very sudden attack on Iran.

Bush's unelected regime got to launch a war of aggression and implement the most radical and thorough agenda of change since the New Deal, shifting trillions of dollars in spending priorities and thus in wealth.

And yet it was enabled by the ostensible opposition, who now complete the process by seeking no justice for the most openly criminal regime in US history, the first to proudly announce that the Constitution did not apply to the executive.

He leaves "unpopular" and yet the program isn't going to be altered by the one who follows in certain essentials: imperialism and bases in Iraq, the PATRIOT Act, the concentration of wealth pushed by Bush will all still be with us in 2012.

Some stinking fish. They said the same thing about the father, and because the DEMOCRATS chose to ignore and forget those crimes, the son was able to return and commit even greater ones.