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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:01 AM
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All investigations of Bush & Cheney will have to be shut down.
If Pelosi doesn't get this Impeachment to the Judiciary Committee. Then we have to shut down all the many investigations in the House and Senate of Bush & Cheney. If they aren't going to culminate in an Impeachment and Trial. What's the point in continuing to conducting the investigations? At that point the investigations become harassment of the President and Vice President under the color of law and a political tool to skew the elections in favor of the Demoracts. Nothing more and nothing less.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:06 AM
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1. No,
all investigations must proceed at once. The point is to expose and document the specifics. It does not close any doors to impeachement. Conyers has stated over and over again that investigation is a first step.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:06 AM
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2. Impeachment is the Only Legal Remedy
under the constitution for executive wrongdoing? Certainly not.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:26 AM
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8. Realistically were looking at other legal remedy vs. Pardon.
Only Impeachment can defeat pardon.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 02:01 AM
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10. and attack on Iran
Only an impeachment inquiry can stop them from thuggery and despotism.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 08:01 AM
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11. I Do Agree That the Threat of Impeachment
is a legitimate tool to use, and may be the only one, against Bush's desire to attack any other countries.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:10 AM
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3. insightful and correct OP, it won't go over well here though n/t
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:24 AM
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7. I'm not afraid of controversy, But it's an angle that needs to be examined,
I can see the republicans pushing it.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 08:28 AM
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12. I would even go so far as to say that Obama will pardon he and Cheney
shortly after he takes office. I think the only democrtic primary candidate that would not have pardoned him would have been Kucinich.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:11 AM
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4. It's all been theatre for us anyway.
They know they have an angry base of people. That's why they went with "investigations" instead of hearings, why they don't enforce subpoenas, and why they send legislation through they know is dead on arrival.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:18 AM
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5. Quite true
If they aren't willing to impeach and Obama won't prosecute, then these hearings are as much a complete and utter waste of time as some accuse Kucinich of being with his articles of impeachment.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:18 AM
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6. Bullshit. If the trangressions were few or mild, I would agree with you.
Edited on Wed Jun-11-08 12:19 AM by tom_paine
You know, like a consensual blowjob.

And yes, I do agree that the timing of this isn't great, but damnit, Impeachment NEVER should have been taken "off the table" by the horrid Pelosi.

I mean, tell a murderer that murder charges are taken "off the table" and see how many wind up dead in a short order, to make an apt analogy.

But you go way too far in saying it would be a base mere political tool.

THAT'S what the Bushies' impeachment of Clinton over a BLOWJOB was.

Let's not help the Bushies out by using their own bullshit Lies against each other, eh? Let's not help them project their own crimes onto us, it's victims.

The number of multiple serial felonies is now so high, ANY TIME is a good time for impeachment.

I call bullshit on you.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 12:28 AM
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9. I don't agree with me on this. LOL But I can see the republicans trying this. Just a wake up call.
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