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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:02 AM
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Stephen Kinzer, author of "All The Shah's Men" on cpan now n/t
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:07 AM
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1. thanks! he's brilliant, book remains one of my all time favorites n/t
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:15 AM
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3. bumping...this is GREAT stuff on our foreign policy. Must see.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:16 AM
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4. Same here. I wish more Dem activists really understood the real deal.
The global fascist agenda goes so far beyond all the pet catchphrases.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 AM
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6. YW and thanks for the kicks :) n/t
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:08 AM
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2. Link here...
C-Span It's on C-Span (1).

  Not familiar with this guy but he's interesting so far. Thanks!

PB
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:27 AM
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7. Thanks for posting the link and more on Kinzer...
Stephen Kinzer on US-Iranian Relations, the 1953 CIA Coup in Iran and the Roots of Middle East Terror
March 03, 2008

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/3/stephen_kinzer_on_the_us_iranian

"...Stephen Kinzer is the author of All the Shah’s Men: An American Coup and The Roots of Middle East Terror. The book chronicles the CIA-backed 1953 overthrow of Iran’s democratically elected government after Iran nationalized its oil industry. The aftershocks of the coup are still being felt. His book has just come out in paperback, and he’s traveling the country to warn against a US attack on Iran.

I sat down with him to talk about what is happening today in Iran..."


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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:22 AM
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5. thanks.
One great book.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:29 AM
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8. YW and thank you n/t
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:32 AM
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9. What he is explaining is a act of war.
Any strike made by Iran against the USA would be 100% justified.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:41 AM
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11. We need to move forward, but we cannot forget the past...
"Kinzer related a fascinating story about one of the a high-ranking U.S. diplomats that were taken hostage. After a year in jail, one of his captives opened the door to his cell and the U.S. diplomat began screaming and berating him, exclaiming that civilized people don’t take innocent people hostage. After patiently listening to the man’s tirade, the Iranian told the man that he had no right to complain, given that the United States had taken his entire country hostage in 1953 and had held it hostage ever since.

Kinzer then carefully outlined the long-term consequences of the Iranian coup, including the U.S. government’s partnership with Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran. Kinzer then pointed out the obvious lesson — that U.S. interventions into other countries produce horrific long-term consequences, including for the American people..."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3402208&mesg_id=3402688
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:35 AM
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10. Here are the speakers from the conference this weekend...
http://www.fff.org/conference2008/index.htm


http://www.fff.org/conference2008/schedule/



8:00 am – 7:00 pm Registration (Closed during afternoon break)
8:00 am – 8:45 am Continental Breakfast
8:45 am – 9:00 am Welcome by Jacob G. Hornberger
9:00 am – 10:00 am “From Empire and Intervention to Freedom and Republic”
by Jacob G. Hornberger (president, The Future of Freedom Foundation)
10:00 am – 11:00 am “How Major U.S. Neo-imperialist Wars End”
by Robert Higgs (Independent Institute)
11:00 am – 12:00 pm “War and the Future of the Dollar”
by Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. (president, Ludwig von Mises Institute)
12:00 pm – 1:00 pm Lunch
1:00 pm – 1:45 pm Break
1:45 pm – 2:45 pm “Bush’s War on Civil Liberties”
by James Bovard (author of Attention Deficit Democracy)
3:00 pm – 4:00 pm “Losing Liberty in the War on Terrorism”
by Bart Frazier (The Future of Freedom Foundation)
4:00 pm – 5:00 pm Break
5:00 pm – 6:00 pm “A Foreign Policy of Freedom”
by Ron Paul (Republican Congressman from Texas)
6:00 pm – 6:45 pm “Regime Change: Promise and Peril”
by Stephen Kinzer (New York Times correspondent)
6:45 pm – 7:45 pm Dinner
7:45 pm – 8:30 pm. “U.S. Foreign Policy After Iraq”
by Andrew J. Bacevich (professor at Boston University)
9:00 pm – 10:00 pm Cocktail hour for speakers and Silver and Gold sponsors

Saturday, June 7, 2008
8:00 am – 7:00 pm Registration (Closed during afternoon break)
8:00 am – 8:45 am Continental Breakfast
8:45 am – 9:00 am Welcome by Jacob G. Hornberger
9:00 am – 10:00 am “Empire, War, and the Greater Good”
by Anthony Gregory (Independent Institute)
10:00 am – 11:00 am “Closing Guantanamo: How to Do It (and How Not to Do It)”
by Joanne Mariner (Human Rights Watch attorney)
11:00 am – 12:00 pm “The Future of Libertarianism”
by Justin Raimondo (Antiwar.com)
12:00 pm – 1:00 pm Lunch
1:00 pm – 1:45 pm Break
1:45 pm – 2:45 pm “Imperial Crusades: The Corruption of U.S. Foreign Policy”
by Alexander Cockburn (Counterpunch.org)
3:00 pm – 4:00 pm “Conscience Over Career: The Prosecution of the American Taliban”
by Jesselyn Radack (Government Accountablility Project)
4:00 pm – 6:00 pm Break
6:00 pm – 6:45 pm “The 2008 Candidates and Civil Liberties — A New Path or More of the Same?”
by Glenn Greenwald (Salon.com)
6:45 pm – 7:45 pm Dinner
7:45 pm – 8:30 pm. “The Rapid Decline of Transparency and Privacy in America”
by Jonathan Turley (professor at George Washington University)
9:00 pm – 10:00 pm Cocktail hour for speakers and Silver and Gold sponsors

Sunday, June 8, 2008
8:00 am – 7:00 pm Registration (Closed during afternoon break)
8:00 am – 8:45 am Continental Breakfast
8:45 am – 9:00 am Welcome
by Jacob G. Hornberger
9:00 am – 10:00 am “War Is Peace and Other Things the Government Wants You to Believe”
by Sheldon Richman (Foundation for Economic Education)
10:00 am – 11:00 am “A Collapsing Empire — Opportunities for Restoring the Republic”
by Karen Kwiatkowski (retired USAF Lt. Colonel)
11:00 am – 12:00 pm “The Economics of War”
by David R. Henderson (Hoover Institution)
12:00 pm – 1:00 pm Lunch
1:00 pm – 1:45 pm Break
1:45 pm – 2:45 pm “Christianity and War”
by Laurence M. Vance (author of Christianity and War)
2:45 pm – 6:00 pm Break
6:00 pm – 6:45 pm “From Checks and Balances to Executive Despotism”
by Bruce Fein (former associate deputy attorney general)
6:45 pm – 7:45 pm Dinner
7:45 pm – 8:30 pm. “U.S. Detentions in the War on Terror: What Was Old Is New Again”
by Joseph Margulies (lead counsel in Rasul v. Bush)
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:47 AM
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12. wow, Ron Paul is in the audience....I hope this stays on CSpan all day
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 10:48 AM by Hamlette
I want to TiVo a couple of the other lectures. Great stuff
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:56 AM
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14. Ron Paul was on before Kinzer, he spoke of all the money being
spent on the military, monetary policy etc.

I'm interested in seeing several of the speakers listed, Glen Greenwald among them.

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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:55 AM
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13. Obama/Kinzer 08
anybody ?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:58 AM
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15. Did you hear his comments on Obama??? n/t
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:00 AM
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16. no. care to fill me in.
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:02 AM
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17. just heard it ...sorry, my Tivo is delayed.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:07 AM
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18. Looking for a transcript and other videos...
Kinzer echoed my sentiments.
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