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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 01:43 PM
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Myanmar as classless as America.

Just like when America told everyone who wanted to help Louisiana to stay away.

U.S. warships to leave Myanmar after aid refused

Wed Jun 4, 10:51 AM ET

BANGKOK (Reuters) - U.S. warships will soon leave waters near Myanmar after the ruling military junta refused permission for the delivery of aid supplies to the cyclone-stricken Irrawaddy delta, a top U.S. commander said on Wednesday.

Adm. Timothy Keating said the USS Essex group will sail away from the former Burma on Thursday but leave several heavy-lift helicopters in neighboring Thailand to help in the relief effort.

"Should the Burmese rulers have a change of heart and request our full assistance for their suffering we are prepared to help," Keating, commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, said in a statement.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080604/ts_nm/myanmar_cyclone_dc_10
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 01:50 PM
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1. Myanmar's rulers as classless as the US' rulers
Let's not confuse the people with their masters. Down that road is bigotry.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 01:54 PM
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4. I wasn't confused at all. Myanmar is as classless as America.
I typed it again, so that you can understand I am not confused. You can now understand that I typed what I meant to type.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:29 PM
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5. Then those problems are yours, not the peoples'
But we've crossed that path before. :)
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 01:50 PM
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2. Sorry, but having several warships at your borders
Warships of a warmongering country. A warmongering country which just placed very aggressive sanctions on your citizens

would make any sane country nervous.

If we really meant for that devastated country to have the food and supplies carried by our warships, we would have off loaded the materials and left.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 01:52 PM
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3. The US didn't tell EVERYONE to stay away
One of the things that I'll always remember about Katrina:

A group of British Columbia volunteer firefighters asked for and got permission to go and help after Katrina hit. They drove, in their fire trucks all the way from Vancouver to New Orleans

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Vancouver&daddr=New+Orleans&sll=29.95369,-90.07773&sspn=0.901907,1.139832&ie=UTF8&ll=26.194877,-103.007812&spn=57.758571,72.949219&z=4

I watched the evening news on the day they arrived. On the CBC they were talking to the fire fighters about what they had found in New Orleans, on CNN there was some guy from the White House trying to explain why the National Guard hadn't arrived yet. Fire fighters from Vancouver managed to drive to New Orleans faster than the US federal government could get anyone on the ground.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:30 PM
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6. Don't even try
RGBolen hates us.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:32 PM
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7. Huh? What? Why?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:44 PM
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8. There's no point reasoning with people who just want to hate us
It's just the way of things.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:48 PM
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9. No but I'm asking
who is this person? why does this person hate us? Who is us?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:53 PM
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10. The OP
He has an unbending anti-American bias. I live in the States, therefore I am "us".
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:59 PM
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12. Oh..ok I understand now
If you look at the OPs profile it says "Texas from Louisiana" so maybe that's why. If I was from N.O. I think I might be bitter as well.

I'm originally from the US, I live in Canada now and am a dual citizen. I honestly feel more 'Canadian' than 'American' - just in terms of the values of Canadian society, but I don't hold a grudge against Americans, I suppose that I am 'anti-american' to the extent that I don't care much for recent foreign policy and wish that the U.S. would improve it's record on the environment, but if I meet you on the street I don't hold it against you personally.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:02 PM
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13. I think you'd find, if you looked, half the US has a more liberal culture than Canada
The other half should not be the identifying element.
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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:03 PM
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14. Sorry Melody, I'm not trying to start a fight with you
I just, personally, feel more 'at home' here, that's all. We don't need to compare issues side by side (at least I don't).
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:07 PM
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15. I'm not fighting, just having an exchange of thoughts, or so I thought
Sorry, didn't mean to offend.

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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:11 PM
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16. No, you didn't
You just seemed like you were defending yourself, or the U.S. and there's really no need.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:14 PM
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17. Please, this is childish as hell
Welcome to my ignore list
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:40 PM
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18. I don't hate you, In Louisiana we know how little America cares about us, it doesn't generate hate

And to the other post, I am not anti-American. I am pro-world and pro-human, which isn't anti-American.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 02:56 PM
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11. Great. Now maybe they can sail their asses back to the Gulf Coast, where...
...they can deliver this stuff to the people who were denied it three years ago. As long as the ship's flying the flag of Empire, I guess they can offload their supplies.

Other flags aren't welcome lest they stir up the natives by allowing them to see how other countries treat disaster victims.


According to an April 2007 article in the New Orleans Times Picayune:

Only a small fraction of the more than $800 million in Hurricane Katrina assistance offered by foreign governments was used by federal agencies, according to documents released Sunday by a private watchdog group.

Rejected were the offers of foreign governments to send medical teams, search-and-rescue units, body bags, bottled water, food, fuel and even offers of specially trained rescue dogs from Poland, according to documents obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Also turned down or stalled by bureaucratic delays were offers of two cruise ships by the Greek government for use as medical facilities and to house workers and displaced residents.

...

The foreign aid snafu was first reported Sunday in The Washington Post. The Post said that the United States turned down 54 of the 77 offers from three of its biggest allies, Canada, England and Israel. CREW obtained the documents under the Freedom of Information Act.



I can see where the Bushies really felt they could do a better job than them damn furriners, especially with "Great Job Brownie" at the wheel. It's not their fault Great Job turned into Blow Job and failed every single test of leadership and common sense. Who could have known, as Condi said about another very suspicious disaster.

I keep thinking I can out-last them, it's only eight months, they'll go quietly, they'll be rounded up and put into their own damn FEMA camps, they'll never get away with another war and another false flag black op.

But then again... Eight months is a long time when madmen have the nuclear launch codes.


wp
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