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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:51 AM
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Grandpa's doing Damage Control - LIVE on MSNBC
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 11:45 AM by npincus
He's challenging Obama to do a series of joint-townhall meetings around the country... and he's got a live (very white) audience in front of the BIG GREEN WALL...

I think that his advisors recognized how deadly dull he was last night, and desperately want to get him infront of a live audience where he (alledgedly) does much better than on a podium.


Making a great fuss over his "invitation" to Obama. Just watch out for what you wish for! :rofl:


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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:52 AM
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1. Obama will crush him in ANY format
town hall, debate, you name it.




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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:53 AM
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2. dear grandpa, obama will clean your clock
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:53 AM
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3. yeah...he and his supporters know he sucked hairy balls dipped in shit last night..lol
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:54 AM
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4. It's a ploy to put Obama on the defensive which could backfire.
Obama should agree, then challenge McCain to do a series of townhall meetings in poor inner cities around the country and see how he holds up.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:56 AM
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Yep. Let's do the first one in the 9th Ward.
Open to the public, of course.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:58 AM
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12. That would be a brilliant move!
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:00 AM
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15. With that, be sure to have a blown up pic of */McSame eating cake
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 11:10 AM by oregonjen
That will say it all.

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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:05 AM
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23. Hey, it's McCain's new slogan: "Let us eat cake."
And let those poor bastards in New Orleans drown.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:21 AM
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33. Oh, hell yes! nt
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:05 AM
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25. Why "town hall"??
Why not "town stadium"? What's McCain afraid of?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:07 AM
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28. Good point.
McCain has zero presence, so he doesn't do well in larger venues. On a big stage next to Obama, McCain would completely disappear.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:54 AM
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5. Won't matter
Can you imagine a Town Hall metting with Obama? The room would be packed with people. Standing room only. 20,000 people outside the dooors. McCain would faint dead away.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:04 AM
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22. Good point!
It would be a frickin' stampede.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:55 AM
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6. Town hall, or Republican town hall?
I think Obama should take him up on it, frankly, with clear ground rules: each side gets to distribute equal numbers of tickets, etc. Obama would, in short order, have the entire audience chanting "yes we can."
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:59 AM
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13. under his terms, you know limited crowds, limited media etc.
that way they can fill the room with their jokers. Take the footage, chop it up to distort the context to then run it 24 hours a day on the tee vee. That's all he's got and he know it.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:55 AM
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7. I hope he makes GREEN the centerpiece of his media sets
geesh it really makes him look sickly.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:56 AM
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8. The wandering around on the stage & off the camera & saying "uhhhh"
isn't looking too good.


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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:57 AM
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9. Well, he's certainly different than he was last night.
Awake or sober comes to mind.

This morning, he can't spew the words out fast enough.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:57 AM
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10. he just said this, and I QUOTE:
"Nuclear power, my friends is SAFE.
Nuclear power, my friends is CHEAP.
Nuclear power, my friends is SAFE!!!!!!!!"
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:56 PM
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41. Someone needs to ask him a series of questions...
...to wit:

1 - You are a proponent of private enterprise over government wherever possible, right? (the answer will be yes)

2 - The reason you are a proponent of private enterprise is that private enterprise is almost always more efficient and better at achieving their stated goals, right? (presumably his answer will be yes)

3 - For example, you would agree that private insurance companies are the best at assessing risk, right? (he may see where you're going with this, so who knows what the answer will be)

4 - So why do the private insurance companies decline to insure nuclear power plants, if they're SO safe?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:57 AM
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11. They're still using that green wall? Excellent.
The combination of that, his ghostly white skin and yellow teeth can only be tolerated for a minute or two.
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:00 AM
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16. LOL! n/t
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:00 AM
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18. i hope they keep putting him on television. He's a disaster!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:00 AM
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19. LOL- so fucking ugly and a bit unusual, no?
Don't presidential candidates like to stick w/red and/or white and/or blue? Green reminds me of a golf course, or an Irish pub.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:17 AM
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32. maybe they cant afford a better one
:rofl:
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:39 AM
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38. ..
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:59 AM
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14. I believe the phrase you were looking for is "attempting damage control"
"doing" seems to connote actually accomplishing that mission.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:00 AM
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17. If Obama is as wise as I think he is, he'll wait a while to debate the Old Fart.



Let the grind of working a desperate campaign wear down McLame
and he'll be a pushover in any debate under any conditions.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:04 AM
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21. McCain's already behaving like the underdog
so clearly he's not buying the polling that shows him tied or at least in the ballpark in terms of electoral votes. That's interesting in itself. If Obama's the front-runner, then yes, he should act like it and keep the number of debates to a minimum and dictate as much as possible the venues, moderators, and terms.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:23 AM
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35. He's already a pushover. Besides the 2K R primary campaign, he hasn't faced any
real competition in, well, ever. He can't handle it (I'm a Zonie, I know).

Bring it, McMore--the sooner, the better.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:38 AM
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37. Certainly McLame is a pushover now but just wait till the campaign progresses in time.




McLame will be showing the effects of running a desperate campaign. He's got a tough road ahead of him. Even his own party doesn't like him, but they know he's all they've got. After the campaign grinds on it wouldn't surprise me to see him in public appearances with a glassy-eyed look, mumbling his words and maybe even drooling a little bit of saliva now and then.


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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:01 AM
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20. Yes, he's on MSNBC right now,
and that's what the "Mute" button is for.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:05 AM
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24. Obama is trying his best to imitate McCain
He's even wearing a bracelet now like Obama has been doing since around the Ohio primary or so. He's doing a lot of rambling at this town hall meeting. No doubt his advisors told him to work on his speaking skills some more. :rofl:
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:06 AM
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26. McCain knows they will steal if for him
Otherwise he wouldn't be wanting to debate Obama. There is no way McCain will come out ahead after that, even with the fixed questions by the Corporate media.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:06 AM
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27. I would think that the contrast would make him shy away from
joint meetings with Obama.
Age is not an asset in this case.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:11 AM
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29. You'd think.
It's an interesting moment, frankly. I wasn't paying much attention to the Republican primaries, but if the toughest contender other than McCain was Huckabee you have to wonder whether McCain's campaign apparatus has really been tested. It will be interesting indeed to see how they respond to a team that's as polished and professional as Obama's; I really don't think they understand what's coming at them yet.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:34 AM
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36. "...if McCain's campaign appratus has been tested." It hasn't, not here in AZ.
Here, it's okay to hire your cronies and big money guys and lobbyists and wife's corporate friends--it's still a walk in the park for a Republican. The major media in the market is absolutely for you and their market is so concentrated in one area that in the Tucson and outlying areas there's no need to break a sweat.

Even I, as a near-lifetime Arizonan, know that Obama's faced some seriously tough campaigning even as a Democrat (possibly/likely even moreso). Until 2K, McCain faced virtually no competition and even then he was really advised very badly.

I've been waiting for his epic fail for 30 years.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:14 AM
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30. Agree, agree! Obama'd clean his clock (and going by last night, it needs cleaning)
Also, I think it's a mistake for McCain to do more appearances next to Obama than he absolutely has to. It's hard to get Repubs to agree to debates because they can be so unpredictable.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:15 AM
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31. Why should Obama raise crowds for Grampy?
Let McSame fill his own halls...if he can. (I can hear the crickets now...lol.)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:23 AM
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34. Yes!!
I am so looking forward to these debates. It would be great if Obama could have a debate with Bush as well...just for entertainment value.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:24 PM
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39. If he is speaking, he isn't doing much damage control
:rofl:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 12:32 PM
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40. Big green wall?
Isn't that a Hollywood trick thing where they can add something later, like say, people of color?
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