Dell found guilty of fraud. Another reason to buy Blue.

[alfredo]

This is why you don't do business with Republicans, especially a bush bot like Michael Dell.

http://www.cio.com/article/371313/Court_Finds_Dell_Guilty_of_Fraud

Dell was found guilty on Tuesday of fraud, false advertising, deceptive business practices and abusive debt collection practices in a case brought by the New York attorney general.
The Albany County Supreme Court found that Dell deprived customers of technical support that they bought or were eligible for under warranty in several ways, including by requiring people to wait for very long times on the phone, repeatedly transferring their calls and frequently disconnecting their calls.
Dell also often failed to provide onsite repairs for customers who bought contracts for such support and often blamed software when hardware was actually the problem, the court found. The company also sometimes refused to offer support when a support contract ended, even though the user had first complained about a problem before the end of the contract. Subscribers to a "next-day" repair service sometimes waited as long as a year for support, the court found.
Dell and affiliate Dell Financial Services also advertised special no-interest financing, but denied almost everyone those terms. It often sold customers products without informing them that they didn't qualify for the special financing terms and then charged them interest rates as high as 30 percent, the court said.

[gateley]

1. Buy Apple. nt

[Lennon]

7. Buy Apple

and support slave labor In China.

iPod maker admits breaking Chinese labor laws; says Apple approved sweatshop labor.
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/9988
"Apple Computer is getting into a deep PR mess over the antics of one of its Chinese partners," .

"After denying that it was running a sweatshop that would be familiar to Charles Dickens, Apple's Ipod manufacturer, Foxconn has finally admitted that it broken Chinese labour laws," Farrell reports.


Foxconn wins 3G iPhone contract, 3 million units shipping in June?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/28/foxconn-wins-3g-iphone-contract-3-million-units-shipping-in-jun/

[alfredo]

11. That was two years ago. I'd like to see what Apple and Foxconn has

done since then. Foxconn was ordered to allow unions. That could help some, depending on the union.

[gateley]

12. Man, I hate hearing that.

It's got to be REALLY bad to break CHINA'S labor laws!

Part of our country's problem with out-sourcing. It's shameful.

Has Apple responded to this?

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. Opps!

:silly:

[Sundoggy]

18. Oh oh

let me guess. You're tired of baiting Scientologists and wanted a challenge? ;)

[OhioChick]

36. Also:

Steve Jobs, Proud to Be Nonunion

Steve Jobs makes a lot of sense when he's talking about music and copyright protection, but when the topic is schools, he seems to be on a different planet.

The teachers' unions, Jobs believes, are ruining America's schools because they prevent bad teachers from being fired.

"I believe that what is wrong with our schools in this nation is that they have become unionized in the worst possible way," the Apple CEO told a school-reform conference in Texas on Saturday. "This unionization and lifetime employment of K-12 teachers is off-the-charts crazy."

Jobs knows a lot about schools; he's been selling computers to them for more than 30 years. But don't you love it when a billionaire who sends his own kids to private school applies half-baked business platitudes to complex problems like schools? I'm surprised Jobs didn't suggest we outsource education to the same nonunion Chinese factories that build his iPods.

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/news/2007/02/72754

[Seedersandleechers]

9. After buying a dell

and wasting my money, I went and bought an i-mac. It was the best decision I ever made.

[Cleita]

14. I just got my first mac.

I'm wondering now why I didn't do this sooner.

[alfredo]

20. You're getting in at the right time. OSX is really coming into its own.

[Cleita]

26. Already I'm loving it and I haven't figured everything out. n/t

[alfredo]

29. I've been using it from day one and I haven't figured everything out

yet either. The more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.

A good place for software:

http://www.macupdate.com/


News and forums:

http://www.macnn.com/

There's also a Mac Forum here on DU.

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. And the more you figure out, the more you learn there isn't much to figure out

User Friendly is a Mac's middle name.

[Sundoggy]

33. LOL, wake me up if they ever fix Java in OSX n/t

[alfredo]

34. They just updated the OS today.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1141

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. Congratulations and welcome to computer heaven

:toast:

[Cleita]

27. Thanks. Is it true though that you don't need any extra security like Norton? n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. Yes

I have never added anything like Norton. And I have had Macs since 1993.

Be sure and check your Software Update every week or so. That takes care of it.

[alfredo]

37. At this time there hasn't been many attacking Apple, but it is wise

to practice safe surfing. I've got my firewall screwed down real tight.

[alfredo]

16. Check Software Update 10.5.3 has been released.

[spinbaby]

2. About that link...

It makes you look at a Dell ad before you get to the article.

:rofl:

Here's a better link:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/27/new_york_judge_rules_against_dell_fraud/

[Snarkturian Clone]

3. Haha, it showed me a Dell ad when I clicked the link!

Dell support are such shit-birds. I bought one of their shitboxes early this year and it kept BSODing on me because the prepacked anti-virus software was interfering with my video card or vice versa. I found this out on my own, because Bangalore-support couldn't figure it out worth shit. They just transferred me 100 times and told me they would call back but never did.

[alfredo]

4. You got to click through. I don't think the ad is going to undo the

damage they have inflicted on themselves.

[lonestarnot]

5. Dell sucks ass!

[nichomachus]

6. Blue? As in IBM? The company that helped the Nazis run the Holocaust?

Sure -- yeah -- right

[EOTE]

8. I think the poster is referring to Blue companies.

As in companies that give primarily to Dems. Not big blue.

[nichomachus]

32. Cool -- don't scare me like that

:eyes:

[alfredo]

10. No, as in Blue State, or Democrat. Michael Dell is a bush Pioneer.

Here's a site for buying from progressive companies. They are redoing their site and methods, so not much is there now.
http://www.buyblue.org/

[AndyTiedye]

13. Not THAT Kind of Blue!

Dell is a "red" company, in that it supports Republicans.
Apple is a "blue" company in that it supports Democrats. Not sure what other computer companies are.

[Lennon]

22. Apple supports both

Apple Computer, Inc. - Political Campaign Contributions
(1999 to Present)

http://www.campaignmoney.com/apple_computer.asp

Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Republicans
$125,381
(22% of total)

Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Democrats
$329,686
(57% of total)

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. I just took my MacBook in for service

It is covered with stickers.

Wake Up WalMart

Reject McCain

Obama

Anything War Can Do Peace Can Do Better

And my desktop picture is:



The guy at the Apple Store said "Our techs are going to love working on your computer!"

I figure that's a pretty good indication it's a blue company. :)

[Sundoggy]

17. Build your own! It's not hard

I haven't "bought" a computer in many years.

[alfredo]

19. I want a laptop for Linux, but building one might be beyond my

abilities.

[Fleshdancer]

21. Dude, you're getting a 30% interest rate for your Dell!

wow, that's disgusting.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. One more reason to buy Apple

I wouldn't want a Dell computer if someone gave it to me for free.

[wowimthere]

31. and they made us use Dell at work. Another slew of liars at the head of the beast

[alfredo]

35. work isn't supposed to be fun. That's why it is a four letter word.