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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:37 AM
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Poll question: Gun control.
I know there are many different opinions about this in our party. The question is do you want more or less gun control.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:44 AM
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1. Other...
Edited on Fri May-16-08 04:47 AM by beevul
Leave things as they are.

Enforce the laws on the books with the tools currently available.

80 million potentially pissed off voters heading to the voting booth to "fix those gun grabbing dems" isn't something anyone hereabouts should be interested in seeing happen this fall. Its going to be hard enough as it is.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:10 AM
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6. Seconded.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:48 AM
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12. Agreed.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 10:28 PM
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27. A big "duh"
Why wasn't the obvious answer within the poll?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 04:50 AM
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2. less.
Lose any type of registration, waiting period or restriction on number purchased in a period of time, make License to Carry a firearm and shall issue national with the right to carry reciprocal in every state.

Enforce existing laws on firearms posession by felons.

Anti's, there is not enough enforcemsnt of this law now. Enacting new laws just makes no sense till all existing laws are being enforced.

I know, Same old shit.

mark
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 05:22 AM
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3. The Gun Pushers need to be put out of business
Gun Pushers are causing the deaths of hundreds of innocent people by making guns available to anyone who wants them.

I want people in office who will outlaw people owning guns.

I want to stop the senseless killing of people because an drunken gun owner goes into a fit of rage.
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coriolis Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:43 AM
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10. You want only agents of the government to have the right?
How Amerikan of you.
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:40 PM
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21. I would respond, but I see coriolis has been tombstoned.
GOBAMA!

Just thought I would say that to prevent wasting a perfectly good post.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 06:01 AM
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4. why should they get more special rights than blowguns, whips, and swords?
fair's fair.

i want to wander about town strapped like a character out of D&D, but can i? no. where's my rights? and don't give me "go ask the SCA" nonsense. that's fun for parties, not for defending my right to walk around with a blackjack, micro-grenades, tranq guns, or poison darts. so what if some of them can slip by the metal detector, be easily concealed, or accidentally go boom...

:+

oh, i haven't used this smilie in a while... :*
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:26 PM
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23. Bah. Swords should be mandatory. (nt)
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:41 PM
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25. Hmmm..
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:04 AM
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5. Less
Edited on Fri May-16-08 07:04 AM by michreject
Just like anything else. I buy it, it's mine. The Government doesn't need to know about it. If it's misused, go to jail. Do not pass do.

If you feel afraid because someone owns a gun. Go buy one.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:34 PM
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24. I'm not for more gun control,
but attitudes like that kinda make me reconsider. "Go buy one". There are plenty of people who don't want guns, or couldn't handle them if they had them.(an 80yr old lady may be "afraid" with everyone owning guns, and you shouldn't tell her go go buy one too). That solves absolutely nothing. The government doesn't need to get more involved with our lives just as you don't need to tell people what to do. I don't see how everyone running around with guns in this country will make anything safer.
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:12 AM
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7. I believe that the 2nd Ammendent is individual not a collective right
but I am well aware that others far mor educated in the matter have not shared this opinion. It is however, nebulous and very debateable. I, however, do believe in background checks (very good thing), registering serial numbers, and numbers restrictions on purchases.

After that, keep the government out of my business.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 07:17 AM
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8. Revision And Standarization Of Laws...
Several years ago I served on a jury in a case involving gun sales and I got quite an education on the many layers of laws regarding sales and ownership...and the many loopholes in those laws. For example, you can give a gun as a "gift" without going through anything more than notifying the state of it..or how a person can escape background checks by where and when they purchase. These loopholes are well known and can and do result in tragic results.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:40 AM
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9. There are some truly idiotic gun laws on the books that should be eliminated.

Some guns are banned simply because they are made in another country, but if that country set up a factory in the US they would be fine and dandy.
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:44 AM
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11. less.
for the reasons already cited.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:48 AM
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13. Less
I'm not a gun owner myself but I sure like the idea that my fellow americans can own as many as they like.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:49 AM
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14. Stop the illegal gun trade. Aggressively.
Gun thefts should be reported. If a "stolen" gun shows up after a crime, and it's "theft" wasn't reported, the owner should be fined and his or hers right to buy more guns should be revoked. Repeat offenders should be jailed.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:50 AM
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15. Better enforcement of existing laws.
Better education for gun owners - especially safe-storage.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:55 AM
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16. License shooters, not guns.
To drive a car, you must have a license.
Doesn't matter whether you own a car or not.
In fact, your license doesn't even say if you own a car.

Similarly, why not license gun users?
Just as in a drivers' license test, they'd have to demonstrate an acceptable level of knowledge about the safe use.
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mvccd1000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:07 AM
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17. I like the concept, but...
... if you fail the test, do you no longer qualify for your constitutionally protected rights?

What's next? A test to qualify to use free speech?

That's a slippery slope.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:44 PM
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18. Kick. N/T
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:55 PM
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19. I chose "other" because I think laws are largely fine as they are
Despite being a very liberal socialist with anarchist leanings, I support the Second Amendment because it was included for a reason. So that we could overthrow the government, if necessary. Not that we could easily do that anymore, even with arms, because of the massive discrepancy between a mass of people armed with rifles (and even machine guns) versus an army with highly technological toys, tanks, and nukes.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 03:55 PM
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20. more
Edited on Fri May-16-08 03:56 PM by LSK
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 08:51 PM
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22. The problem with the phrasing of the poll question
is that it assumes that the folks answering the question have an accurate, working knowledge of the topic. (Many national polls suffer from the same problem.) While DU members may be generally more educated on various topics than the general public, this assumption is still an unsafe one for the general DU membership.

That said, I voted for less since there exist some rather silly stuff on the books as well as serious stuff that just does not work. Higher enforcement of the current laws more than covers the common desires of the general public.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-16-08 09:58 PM
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26. Other: Better enforcement of existing laws, revision of some others..n/t
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