Clinton downfall: Did it begin with Katrina effort?

[Bennyboy]

I remember seeing Bill Clinton and GHWB together announcing the relief effort for Katrina victims. Not that I am or was against the efforts, but seeing him with GHWB just made me a little sick to my stomach.

Since then, I have had a hard time talking him seriously. And I ahve had a hard time taking his wife seriously too. I wonder if tehy are willing to jump into bed with anyone, just to make a grand gesture.

[alfredo]

1. No, it was front and top loading their fund raising, and Bill making

unfortunate statements in SC.

Listening to Mark Penn was another big mistake.

[ccharles000]

2. No.

[bbgrunt]

15. that pic makes her look like Katie Couric.

[tularetom]

3. For me it began with the Iraq vote

but the images of bill sucking up to daddy boosh didn't help.

[lisa58]

4. The stomach-turner for me...

...was the opening of the Clinton Library after Kerry lost and Bill asked, "Am I the only one who likes both Kerry and Bush?"

That said, I would vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination - how much I'll like doing that diminishes by the day.

[Warpy]

14. Same here, I'll vote for her over McCasket

but DO NOT expect me to like it.

[jgraz]

5. When was the "upfall"??

These are the same people they were in 1992. Marketing and lies can only carry you so far.

[Skinner]

6. That is the lamest reason I have ever heard.

He was trying to help victims of a terrible natural disaster. Two former presidents working together sends a powerful positive message. (To most people, anyway.)

[northzax]

8. it was the tsunami

but they also did Katrina stuff.

but remember, Skinner, jsut because by teaming up with Bush Sr (a former President of the United States) helped raise $200 MILLION for disaster relief following the Tsunami and Katrina, doesn't mean that Clinton shouldn't have ignored Bush I. people would rather follow the hate than someone who wants to be post-partisan to help people in trouble.

as for the OP, you know what made me sick to my stomach? bodies floating in water. Anything anyone could do to help is a good thing from where I come from. and the idea that Clinton was sucking up to Bush? ever think it was more likely the other way around? the Clinton was the magnanimous one there?

[Dogmudgeon]

7. When he pissed off the national press corps in the 1990s

They have hated him with an ungodly passion for nearly two decades, for reasons I have yet to discover.

Some say it was because he kept them off Air Force One. Freepers, of course, will tell you that it is because Clinton is so evil that not even libbruls can stand him.

--p!

[northzax]

9. I think I know why, honestly

the Press, by and large, wants 'class' in the White House, as long as people look good, they don't care.

Clinton was the predecessor for Obama, just as Carter was the predecessor for Clinton, turns out, ANYONE can become President (well, as long as they are brilliant, driven and talented) all three are the American Dream, rising from humble beginnings to power and glory. while it's a good story, no one really likes it, when you are sitting at the top of the pyramid to begin with.

[Clear Blue Sky]

10. The tsunami relief was a good thing.

We constantly hear of "reaching across the aisle" and "bipartisanship". So when it happens, in this case with two former Presidents of different parties, don't knock it.

[Bennyboy]

11. Bush Clinton Katrina Fund

http://www.bushclintonkatrinafund.org/ (hasn't been updated since Fall 07)

Not Tsunami.

maybe I misworded my thread title, but...for me this kind of was the straw that broke the camels back.

[asjr]

12. Any time people can get together

to help their fellow man I will back them. That is what this entire country should be doing instead of back-stabbing someone you don't like. I feel certain any person who benefitted from Bush's and Clinton's efforts wouldn't turn down aid because of political leanings.

[Warpy]

13. No, her downfall began when she didn't sack her

campaign team after Iowa when it became clear there wasn't going to be a coronation and the top-down strategy of the DLC was not going to cut it with an electorate that was fed up with business as usual.

[Perry Logan]

16. Normal readers are reminded that nothing a Clintophobe says about the Clintons counts for shit.

Unbelievably weird, isn't it? The Repubs mount a massive smear campaign against Bill Clinton and his family in the 90's...

...and the victims are still with us, in this very thread, damaging the party in every way they can and thinking they're righteous.

Clintophobes--you know, the assholes who are ruining DU--like to post these threads where they agree with one another on the bullshit accusations they've made against the Clintons.

I'm here to burst that bubble, and remind any normal people reading this slimy thread that the Clintophobes live in a fantasy world in which the Clintons closely resemble the villains from a bad comic book and are instantly found guilty of any old thing you can make up about them.


Now get out of here and go find some people who like Democrats.

[EOTE]

17. And what of the Obamaphobes? Are they all squeeky clean?

I'd really like your take on what the Obamaphobes are doing to this thread? Are those assholes ruining DU? Or are those assholes acceptable assholes because they support your candidate?