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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:49 PM
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360 post-9/11 workers have died, including 80 of cancer, says state

More than 360 workers who dealt with the aftermath of the World Trade Center disaster have died, state health officials said Wednesday.

Officials have determined the cause of death of 154 of the responders and volunteers who toiled at Ground Zero, the blocks nearby and at the Fresh Kills landfill, where debris from the site was taken.

Of those, 80 died of cancer.

"It's the tip of the iceberg," said David Worby, who is representing 10,000 workers - 600 with cancer - who say they got sick after working on rescue and recovery efforts.

"These statistics bear out how toxic that site was," Worby said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/05/08/2008-05-08_360_post911_workers_have_died_including_.html">MORE »
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:52 PM
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1. "It's the tip of the iceberg." How sad. I suppose these folks
will be treated with as much care as the troops are. Collateral damage?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:58 PM
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2. that is fairly disturbing
what with the state average being about 440 in every 100K pop.

That 440 assumes all type of cancers, I imagine that the post 9/11 types are more specialized.

http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/uscs/Table.aspx?Group=5f&Year=2004&Display=n&Variable1=New%20York
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:00 PM
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3. Interesting statement here.
360 people have died and the cause of death has only been determined in 154. Somethings not right here, I don't know if this is written wrong or if they are trying to make another point. Death Certificate are rarely issued without a cause of death. This is 57%. The article implies much more than it proves and I'm sure there is something out there to prove. They deserve that.

David
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:06 PM
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4. Don't quote me on this.
I'm just remembering, as of last year every search and rescue, and police dog that worked the Trade Center had died mostly from cancer. That may sound worse than it actually is, they don't use puppies so most of the dogs are between 3 and 6, so 6 years later you would expect to have lost a fair number of them, but all of them give me a break.

David
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:13 PM
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5. Dust to Dust My You tube movie on Rudy and Christine
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1B2WBD-F-7I

The cleanup for the Pentagon and Pennsylvania different than 911

over 60 percent of Ground Zero workers sick and more to die

plus I'm waiting for the NY people to start dying as result of contamination
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:39 PM
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6. The Ground Zero workers were there every day all day.
Their exposure was vastly greater than the rest of us. But there is a city study going on for those who were there day one.

For me, I live 32 blocks away. The first few days, the wind blew toward Brooklyn so we were spared the brunt of it. Later, the air smelled like a mummy's tomb had been opened. I'm told the smell was of burning, but to me it was old and musty smelling. I never really associated it with burning, even after they told me. I knew it was the dust of the dead.

I have a Ventolin inhaler that I used to use a few times a year...if I was ill, if it was a day of both heavy stress and heavy allergens...but no more than that. For the first three years after 9/11, my inhaler use went way up. I was using it several times a week. But usage has returned to normal for me.

If you are looking for increased death rates, it won't necessarily be in New Yorkers. The Wall Street financial trades workers returned, some even wearing masks, as soon as Whitman lied about the air being clear. They live in Connecticut, New Jersey, and Long Island. Commuters. All those buildings that were left standing on Wall and Broad. Those are the people you want to be testing.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:42 PM
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7. The Wall Street financial trades workers
That's who I thought of too when I was reading this article.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:44 PM
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8. Heckuva job Christie Whitman. There is much blood and suffering on your hands.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:58 PM
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9. What strikes me, though it shouldn't, is the absolute
dead silence about this on the MSM. I remember when they would have been pirahnas all over something like this.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:08 PM
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10. It seems our corpromedia spends less and less time reporting
Edited on Fri May-09-08 04:09 PM by BushDespiser12
anything of substance. I agree, it is very disturbing.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:44 PM
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11. My friend worked at Ground Zero
from the second or third week giving massage therapy to the rescuers. Beautiful, positive, clean living young woman has now survived her breast cancer for two years. There is a connection. We were breathing the ashes for months afterward.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:00 PM
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12. This makes me
go all conspiracy theory mad. I wonder sometimes if there were explosives in the building as some have said and if those explosives might have had depleted uranium in them? I'm surprised that they didn't measure the radiation at that site. I wonder sometimes if that isn't part of the reason the clean up and disposal was carried out so quickly and why they took 7 years to start rebuilding anything on that dreadful empty hole? Just thinking out loud is all, pure unfounded speculation from someone who believes that this administration is capable of anything. Plus I enjoy lying about them.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 11:23 AM
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13. Who needs depleted uranium
when you have asbestos, micron-sized ash, and thousands of other carcinogens that were just products of the time the Towers were built? Occam's Razor.
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