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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:50 AM
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The nearly 30 year Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush era
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...is coming to an end.
Let's hope this era of sucking the working poor and middle class dry via legislation favoring destructive multi-national corporate interests is also fading.

We a need a shift towards a sustainable green based economy where investment and legislation favors us all and only corporations who are good corporate citizens and operate with the public good as foremost are allowed access to our tax dollars.

I have my doubts but also my hopes.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:57 AM
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1. People are often taken aback when it's pointed out to them how long these 2 families...
...have been in power, especially since the elder Bush was clearly the nefarious mover and shaker behind Reagan. It's as if not many have stopped to think about just how many yrs of Bush-Bush-Clinton-Bush-another Clinton {?} we've had. Re doubts and hopes, one man's cynicism is another's realism. Your sig line nails it.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:20 AM
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3. I am 44 years old
And I've NEVER seen a presidential ballot that didn't have a Bush or a Clinton on it.

I'm really weary of them!
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:18 AM
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2. Insane... so you're saying the BAD/BAD/*GOOD*/BAD era is ending?????
What gets me about this line of thinking is that Clinton was the anti-Reagan/Bush to a lot of people's thinking.

So you're saying the nearly 30 year...

BAD/BAD/GOOD/BAD era is ending?

WTF was wrong with the Good part?

The economy in the 90s was fantastic and nearly everyone benefitted.

After Obama wins a term or two are we going to say that...

***** The nearly 40 year Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama era is ending? *****

Just wacko.

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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:34 AM
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6. the BAD/BAD/MIXED/BAD era. n/t
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:37 AM
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7. eShirl
is that your kitty? what a beauty!!!

:hi:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:44 AM
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9. he sure is!
Morpheus (named for the god of sleep and dreams, not for a character in The Matrix)
we tend to dote on him as he is our only child

You have quite a collection of gorgeous felines, yourself!

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:53 AM
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15. LOL
My Trinity WAS named for the Matrix character!!!

:rofl:

thanks. :)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:20 AM
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4. Kind of misleading. I would take the Clinton out of that equation.
Reagan/Bush controlled the government for 20 years. Six of the other eight years were controlled by the Reagan/Bush Congress.

:shrug:

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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:29 AM
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5. The nearly 240 year Washington -Adams- Jefferson- Madison...
The Washington-Adams-Jefferson-Madison-Monroe-Adams-Jackson-Van Buren-Harrison-Tyler-Polk-Taylor-Fillmore-Pierce-Buchanan-Lincoln-Johnson-Grant-Hayes-Garfield-Arthur-Cleveland-Harrison-Cleveland-McKinley-Roosevelt-Taft-Wilson-Harding-Coolidge-Hoover-Roosevelt-Truman-Eisenhower-Kennedy-Johnson-Nixon-Ford-Carter-Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush

era is finally coming to and end. These 40 or so families have ben in control for so long....

HUH?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:51 AM
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11. If you fail to see the right leaning tendencies and trends that have happened during and post Reagan
then it's obvious that you fail to get it.

Clinton's presidency represents a rightward shift for the Democratic party. Many of us find it satisfying in competency and with some positive merits but adherent to the Republican low taxes small government mantra and in the end succumbing to the interests of corporate America.

Clinton is a mixed bag here. Not many NAFTA fans on either wing...
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:42 AM
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8. Bill Clinton was the best Republican president...
Edited on Fri May-09-08 08:45 AM by iamahaingttta
...we've ever had.

He did not change the corporate-centric policies of this country.
He managed the economy at a time of a huge technology bubble, and got lucky, if you ask me.
The current housing/financial crisis was born out of his policies.
The rich continued to get richer under Clinton, and the poor didn't get much poorer simply because of a boom in the cycle.

I don't think President Obama is going to do much of anything to change any of this.
But I do think he will be better than another President Clinton.



Edited to add - Clinton's near balancing of the budget is, of course, much better policy than the NeoCon borrow and spend/disaster capitalism approach. I will give him that, and considerably more... That's was why he was the best Republican president we've ever had...
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:51 AM
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14. Mark Crispin Miller refers to Clinton as a "moderate" republican
Agreed.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:47 AM
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10. Been waiting so long for these dynasties to end.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:06 AM
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12. Waiting for the dynasties to end, eh? 2 terms for one guy does not equal a dynasty!
Edited on Fri May-09-08 09:07 AM by glenhappy
Clinton was not perfect but he was a hundred thousand times better than Reagan and Bush.

He was a little too right leaning to me too, but imagine what we would be like if it was a Reagan/Bush/Bush/Bush era?

Can you say Apocalypse?

I knew you could.

And it isn't a dynasty if it was only one guy. You Clinton haters are trying to prevent a dynasty that might be a so-so Presidency. You gotta KNOW that HRC would be better than McSame.

Also, it wasn't just luck that got Bill the great economy. It was things like the Deficit reduction bill that not one single Republican voted for.

So re-write history all you want, but the Clinton era was an era of relative Peace and Prosperity like none we have ever seen.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 09:47 AM
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13. 3 to 1 - why include the Clintons? you are trying to make a construct
nt
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 08:57 PM
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16. Here is many good reasons why "Bubba" is a DINO:
Bill Clinton escalated the war on marijuana and imprisoned a record amount of people, went after Doctors for prescribing it, did absolutely nothing to fix our health coverage crisis, signed NAFTA with no labor or environmental standards, signed the TelCom Act placing the mainstream media into the hands of monopolies like Clear Channel et al., signed into the law Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 which sabotaged the foundation of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, forgave the Iran-Contra murderous traitors, hangs out with GB Sr, he is one of the founders of the DLC, his wife is backed by Rupert Murdoch....etc...
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