I tell you what, several of my "friends" keep sending me stuff about

[WCGreen]

Obama being either a closet Muslim or an America hater.

It's white guys my age, you know, 50 or so.

What is it with these guys. They are such closeted racists that I can't stand it. Even though there is so much evidence to the contrary, people still think he is a Muslim and or will betray America. I honestly think they feel that if Obama is elected everyone will have to eat watermelon and fried chicken 24/7.

I am so embarrassed for white guys my age. They pretended for years to not be racists and now the first time they might actually have to prove they are not, they resort to repeating lies and dropping innuendos to mask their racism.

And these are the same folks that send me those crappy send this EMail on to ten of your friends and God will smile on you.

Bull Shit Bull Shit Bull Shit.......

[NJmaverick]

1. Hit reply all and paste this into the return mail

10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't):



1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.



2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."



3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.



4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."



5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.



6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.



7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."



8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.



9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."



10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.

[madmom]

9. Thank you for this, I copied it to give to my sister-in-law.

[electropop]

12. and... McCain can't tell Shiite from Shinola

He runs around repeatedly claiming that (Shiite) Iran is training (Sunni) Al Qaeda and sending them into Iraq. Sure, they would aid their mortal enemy.

And don't forget he says he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years.

And he admits he doesn't know anything about economics.

[DRoseDARs]

24. Or you could reply in the subject line "I found this old picture of you..."

Followed by this in the body, "...and guess what: After all these years, you're still a prick." Email them a picture of an old, gnarled penis.

[Texasgal]

35. I like this!!!

I need a link though... I can see the freeps in my life salivating for one!

[NJmaverick]

40. Here is the original link with all the cited sources for the statements

http://pol.moveon.org/mccain10/email.html?rc=homepage

[Texasgal]

42. AWESOME!

Thank you!

[orleans]

50. wish you had links for each of those. n/t

[rox63]

2. Have you asked them why a Muslim would have a controversial Christian pastor?

And if so, did their heads explode?

[WCGreen]

4. Several times....

I tell tehm they can't have it both ways.

Hate hiom for being a closet Muslim or hate him for having a somewhat crazed minister.

Still they send this stuff on and on and on.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

8. Send it back to them

and tell them that some ignorant asshole is sending out this garbage using their email account.

Tell them you hope they catch the SOB.

[electropop]

14. Hee! I have to remember that one.

Now, what do I say to my RW brother who just sent me a huge box full of Halliburton-logo swag (shirts, clock, calculator, etc)??? He works for them on the oil side of the house.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

21. Say "Thanks,"

and then donate the stuff to Goodwill.

[electropop]

49. I think that's where I'm headed.

However, I'll be seeing him at a family event soon. May have to let him see me with one item.

[NightHawk63]

10. My GF brought this up to her father...

... a proud Mississippi redneck, and she says that it shut him right up. But, he still "ain't voting for Obama".

[Bill McBlueState]

51. I have a theory about this

Perhaps white racists believe that all black Christians are secretly Muslims.

It seems like the kind of thing they would go around worrying about.

[madmom]

3. That my friend is why I'm afraid Obama might not be able to win the GE, it's frightening isn't it?

[WCGreen]

6. It s, but I think there are enough people out there that have been

energized, in a positive way, about Obama.

My thinking is that most of these people would have voted for McCain anyway. Obama just gives them something to piss and moan about.

[BonnieJW]

11. I think you're wrong.

I work in an office with lots of repubs and they are very afraid and hate McC. One of my managers asked me "What do you think of that terrorist, Obama?" I got up and walked out. Things were cool between us for a bit, but I think he knows better than to initiate political conversations with me again.

[coriolis]

16. They hate McCain and call Obama a terrorist?

That's like REALLY odd...

[Iggo]

53. That IS odd...

....considering McCain is the one who wants to blow stuff up.

[coriolis]

15. Willie Brown said much the same thing on TV the other day.

He's absolutely right too...there are plenty of Democrats who, while never ever publically admitting it, would withhold a vote for a woman or a black person. I've had lots of Democrat friends admit it to me privately. It's not that they will vote for McCain necessarily (but some actually might...more than a few voted for Chimp...being the idiots they are; what can I say?)

[Bensthename]

17. That is why you wish he will win. He won't.

[madmom]

18. That is why I wish who will win? Please clarify your statement.

[LibDemAlways]

23. It is a sure way to get flamed on DU, but anyone who

thinks race won't be a huge, possibly decisive factor in an Obama vs McCain contest is kidding themselves. It will be THE issue on which many people decide. I personally know some seniors - lifelong Dems - who will not vote for a black man for President. That's just reality. I'm not saying Obama can't win, but with either of our candidates the potential downsides (especially given the endless cheerleading the corporate media whores will be doing for McCain) may just make the election close enough for the repukes to - once again - steal.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

32. Somehow, we have to make race irrelevant!

We can do that by pounding on the issues, by showing McCain for what he is: An angry old man who is ignorant of much in world issues.

When people are engaged in discussing the genuine issues that affect their lives, then race will vanish from the scene...

[LibDemAlways]

33. I hope you're right, Peggy. But the racial

divide in this country is still huge in some places, and overcoming it is going to be very difficult. The area of Pennsylvania where my dad grew up went overwhelmingly went for Hillary in the primary, something like 75%. Knowing the mindset of the people there, I know racism had a lot to do with it.

I just hope the Dems can present a convincing case to the American public that change is imperative and that they need to put their prejudices aside and vote in their own best interest and the best interest of the country - in other words, don't let their fears get in the way of their common sense.

[coriolis]

39. That isn't possible, Peggy. Not as long as there ARE races.

Failing to acknowledge that fact just leads to apathy...and defeat. "Oooo everybody hates McCain" I see that written here all over the place and it's bullshit. DU is FAR from a microcosm of America...hell, it's not even in tune with mainstream Democrats. You dismiss the far right while grossly overestimating the influence of the mostly left.
I run into Dems every day who privately admit (they would never say it out in public) they can't vote for a woman...or a black person. It's just a fact of life.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

41. Your points are well taken...

But still, we have to try, don't we?

Apathy is also a problem...

Getting people energized about the election is a good thing.

But still, I hear ya!

[coriolis]

43. I think we see (or at least discover) it more here in flyover country

than you coaster folks do. Doesn't mean it's not there though, and you're right we hafta try.
:toast:

[WCGreen]

44. A lot of people are now of the mind that there is only one race....

The Human Race.

Now I don't know if we have hit the "tipping" point where more people are of that frame of mind to counter balance those who wouldnever vote for a black man, but I think we are close.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

46. How much I hope you're right!

We need to win this one, and I believe that Obama can do it...

As long as we hammer on the issues...

Hopefully that will minimize the racial aspects of this election...

[coriolis]

48. The thing is, we might not even know...if there is manipulation of this next election like there was

in the previous two.
:grr:

[Guaranteed]

38. It's also EXACTLY why we need to nominate a black man for President. nt

[Warpy]

5. They're near the upper end of the main GOP voting cohort

and just can't let their glory days of impeaching a president over a consensual blow job from an overheated groupie go.

Just list the Snopes article and hit "reply all."

Consider blocking the worst offender(s). If they really need you, there's a telephone or a stamped envelope available to them.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

7. Racism

It comes in all weird shapes and sizes, and most people who are racists will tell you - and they believe it - that they are not.

A friend of mine, a Lt. Col. in the Marines, a Gulf War vet, a former Republican who is now a Democrat, who hates Fuckface with a fine, white-hot passion, told me that his wife recently told him that she could never vote for a black man.

His head is still spinning. So is mine. She's a lovely woman who would never, ever believe that she's a bigot. Ever. She's raising their kids to be open and loving and not discriminatory, but what kind of example is she setting, perhaps subliminally?

I fear for this election, for Obama, because of this precise hatred and fear and ignorance.

[elizfeelinggreat]

25. I agree with you that it's simple racism

It seems pretty clear when they have to make up stupid things like calling him a terrorist or changing his (very obvious and public) religion.

I do not fear Obama's election (and I do think we'll win) because they will be unable to continue their closet prejudice and people who don't know any better (their children?) will be exposed to reality, an excellent role model, negating the ugly hatred. Hopefully for a very long time. :)

[Tangerine LaBamba]

31. I hope you're right

It's horrifying to think that we've not come very far at all in our tolerance of others, but this so-called "administration" has certainly done a fine job of demonizing anyone who's not Caucasian.

I, too, think he's going to win. I think he's going to make McCain look like the tired old fellow that he is.

[LibDemAlways]

34. The racists I know don't even try to hide it.

I've had people who should definitely know better tell me that they won't vote for Obama because they can't envision a black President. Period.

One thing for sure about Obama heading the ticket. America will find out for certain how far it's come, or how far it still has to go.

[death to the DLC]

13. It's easier to call him a Muslim

they can get away with that.

Not so much the alternative.

You might have noticed, racists are not very brave.

They require lots of things to hide behind.

[peace13]

19. Ask them what they have to fear...

a rich white guy stole our constitution, denuded our Armed Services, killed our soldiers , killed hundreds of thousands Iraqi citizens and displaced millions more, bankrupt our country, brought gasoline from $1.76 to $3.60 a gallon, stole an election or two and shit on the State of Louisiana. I can't imagine a man or women of any race doing more damage to the planet.

[Bigmack]

22. Verbatim conversation I had ....

.. with a neighbor who says - in a half-joking manner - that he couldn't vote for a black man.

I said: "After the fucking we've all taken for the last 7 years from white males, there's no way I'm voting for a white man.... gotta be female or black."

[peace13]

27. I love that! n/t

[Bensthename]

20. Same here.

Living in the bible belt I get that same bs. Alot of my distant friends and family are like that. Ive made it clear I dont like those emails, I usually do a reply-all and voice my opinion on the matter. So now when I get them it is an "accident"..

[undeterred]

26. If they can't see how much white guy Bush

hates the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the American people, then they are already pretty hopeless.

[SmokingJacket]

28. A relative told me, "He'll give the blacks whatever they want!"

Ugh, what do you say to that?

I think I said, "You mean equal treatment under the law, like everyone else?"

[LibDemAlways]

36. Are you sure you aren't related to me? Those sound

like some of my relatives.

There isn't much you can say to those kinds of statements. My relatives are convinced that all black people are on welfare, have babies just to collect a bigger government check, and use their food stamps to buy steak and lobster. Nothing you could say or do could ever convince them otherwise.

They aren't worried about Obama, though, because they also firmly believe that the U.S. will never elect a black President.

[ColbertWatcher]

29. LOL

Too funny.

Secret Muslim is a Colbert joke!

[CANDO]

30. They want to "justify" their racism

eom

[Ilsa]

37. Send them the email about McCain, and if they are still adamant

about Obama, encourage them not to vote. Say that not voting will send a clear message to their party about their nominee.

[TonTueKa]

45. Usually white folks..

..look at me some type of way and I'm Hispanic, fair skin and I'm like err? I know it's not about the skin color but still, they shouldn't hate me because I'm Hispanic. They pretend to like you and smile at you and then talk about you right there... as if you're not standing there!

This is so off topic?..

I just wanted to post anyway.

[TonTueKa]

47. Usually white folks..

..look at me some type of way and I'm Hispanic, fair skin and I'm like err? I know it's not about the skin color but still, they shouldn't hate me because I'm Hispanic. They pretend to like you and smile at you and then talk about you right there... as if you're not standing there!

[Indenturedebtor]

52. Yes every "other" runs into that

It is unfortunate that there is so much racism and bigotry on all sides of the spectrum. When I was selling cars I had many hispanic customers tell me that they refused to work with a guero. Right to my face "Oh sorry you don't get to feed your family becuase I don't like white people".

And I argue with people all the time here on DU and formerly on the job (I work from home now), about their idea that the evil joos are responsible for all wars, and all problems, and even some who say that we brought the holocaust and all the persecutions onto ourselves.

Race will be a factor in this election. but I still think we're going to smoke McBoosh.

[Iggo]

54. Yep, I run into that all the time.

One of my co-workers often chimes in with "I hate my fucking spic brother-in-law." I remind him that we're in an office with a couple dozen people who hear "spic" the same way black folks hear "nigger." But he thinks it's okay to use "spic" to describe his brother-in-law because his bother-in-law is a lazy Mexican who refuses to get a job. See? We're the good kind of Mexicans, so why on earth should we be mad?!?!?!?

Lordy...


:rofl:

[Iris]

55. A "closet Muslim"? There's not reason a Muslim should have to be in the closet.

Except maybe because of ignorant people like your friends.